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K.I.S.S.So essentially what you're saying is, the scheme and the offense is just too much?
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K.I.S.S.So essentially what you're saying is, the scheme and the offense is just too much?
I'm not necessarily expecting you to know the answer to this question, so it's more of a rhetorical one, but I can't help but wonder how much of that is new or incremental since this staff was at UCF? I remember reading your post last week indicating that the Oregon offenses typically relied on 2-3 blocking schemes, but if Frost's offense has always been this multiple then Austin should've known exactly what he was getting into when he followed Frost to Lincoln.Some of that IMO comes from the top down. The OL coach is going to block up the design of the play based on what the offense is designed around.
But it is concerning obviously not being great at IZ. And their OZ isn’t really and OZ IMO. It’s more mid zone based on the tracks of the OL and where the RB typically cuts.
plus they run a shit ton of schemes. That’s a lot to teach and try and be proficient at. IMO it’s the most technical position with the most variance and variables in any given play. The shear amount of shit a single OL has to deal with would probably blow most peoples minds. Then having to apply the rules. Execute with fundamentals. And then remember any specific play variance that requires a few OL to do a different job compared to what they normally do within the scheme. All of the sudden you’ve got more schemes essentially in a world where typically less is more. It’s be different if they ran 2-3 schemes and had tags to change a job. But they have a ton. IZ, MZ, draw, power, P&P, Down/G, Short Trap. That’s 7 run schemes. Plus the variances on power and IZ. Plus the slow screen. Plus the pass pro schemes. If Austin is frustrated by this. It’s definitely warranted.
It's not the fall that kills ya; it's the sudden stop.There is no sky. Only ground.
IMO. Their run game can be really diverse. And I think I forgot to mention they run dart too. 8 run schemes they have in their pocket. They won’t carry every one. Every game. But that’s a ton.So essentially what you're saying is, the scheme and the offense is just too much?
Yeah. That could be correct. I don’t know how much run game stuff they ran at UCF. It would take a little digging. Ucf all22s are out there.I'm not necessarily expecting you to know the answer to this question, so it's more of a rhetorical one, but I can't help but wonder how much of that is new or incremental since this staff was at UCF? I remember reading your post last week indicating that the Oregon offenses typically relied on 2-3 blocking schemes, but if Frost's offense has always been this multiple then Austin should've known exactly what he was getting into when he followed Frost to Lincoln.
You know this take is prolly much more accurate than one would want to believe.I am inclined to believe that:
1. Frost probably is the smartest guy in the room
2. Part of the reason why Frost is the smartest guy in the room is because most of his assistants are mediocre
3. Frost genuinely cares about his assistants
4. Frost knows that they aren't capable of getting it done and he has to shit can them
5. Frost probably regrets bringing them here and he is mad at himself for the fucked situation he has put himself
6. Combine the above with the immense pressure of his job and all of the other shit that has transpired and he is probably losing his mind
Honestly I 100% believe him when he says it's just a lack of execution and needing to get better at details. I'm sure there's just some stuff that they're just not very good at yet and need to continue to rep and fix.IMO. Their run game can be really diverse. And I think I forgot to mention they run dart too. 8 run schemes they have in their pocket. They won’t carry every one. Every game. But that’s a ton.
I don’t think the offense is too much. I just feel like they have so much variation they can attack you with. That it can cause some errors in execution. Yeah. It all looks awesome on paper. But it doesn’t mean a hill of shit what the coaches know.
The major disconnect with this is where the fault lies. Consistent lack of execution and lack of attention to detail (which begets stupid mistakes) is a coaching issue. Period. If it's short-lived or more of an early season thing, then it's easier to see it otherwise. If your guys aren't executing and are constantly putting themselves in position to lose, that's the head man's fault.Honestly I 100% believe him when he says it's just a lack of execution and needing to get better at details. I'm sure there's just some stuff that they're just not very good at yet and need to continue to rep and fix.
yeah, but it's year 3. Or more specifically to this year....the last game of the season is today. Isn't it a little late to just 'rep and fix'?Honestly I 100% believe him when he says it's just a lack of execution and needing to get better at details. I'm sure there's just some stuff that they're just not very good at yet and need to continue to rep and fix.
I agree with this. If there are occasional lack of execution. I get the, we need to execute better. But when it’s consistent lack of execution. Which we hear about everyweek. Then from my experience. You’ve got to figure out what’s the issue that’s causing it and what to do in practice to fix it. I’m not saying they aren’t doing that and are blind. Because they most certainly are. They’re professional coaches. They get paid a lot of money to coach. I don’t doubt for a second that all of them are toiling over the lack of execution and trying things to fix those issues. But that’s where the really good coaches come into play. And some years are easier than others.The major disconnect with this is where the fault lies. Consistent lack of execution and lack of attention to detail (which begets stupid mistakes) is a coaching issue. Period. If it's short-lived or more of an early season thing, then it's easier to see it otherwise. If your guys aren't executing and are constantly putting themselves in position to lose, that's the head man's fault.
Thanks for expounding so eloquently and relevantly on the point. I think this is one of those things that gets lost in online banter and people who can't handle others "trashing" or critiquing their guy. Of course they're trying and wanting to turn the train around. That's inferred. The ultimate question is if they have the ability beyond just the effort. Evidence. We need evidence.I agree with this. If there are occasional lack of execution. I get the, we need to execute better. But when it’s consistent lack of execution. Which we hear about everyweek. Then from my experience. You’ve got to figure out what’s the issue that’s causing it and what to do in practice to fix it. I’m not saying they aren’t doing that and are blind. Because they most certainly are. They’re professional coaches. They get paid a lot of money to coach. I don’t doubt for a second that all of them are toiling over the lack of execution and trying things to fix those issues. But that’s where the really good coaches come into play. And some years are easier than others.
Coaches are supremely confident in their abilities and to teach their scheme and techniques. And then you get humbled when you’ve put in too much, made things too complex, taught things that didn’t stick and have to figure it out to get your guys to execute. I’ve been in that boat numerous times.
In all reality. I’m a cocky arrogant fuck when it comes to football, and in the grand scheme of things, I know very little. But I’m sure it’s no different with them. Hell you probably have to be to get to that level of coaching. But when they say they’re trying to pare shit down and working on fixing issues. I don’t doubt it. But can they actually get it done.
Some day, I'd love to watch a football game with you simply to "see" the game unfold before your eyes vs. mine. I'm sure there's a great deal of disparity between what a coach observes during a game and what a fan sees (clutches red balloon patiently waiting to release it). I'd probably learn a lot about football, and I guarantee I'd make you laugh at least once per quarter.I agree with this. If there are occasional lack of execution. I get the, we need to execute better. But when it’s consistent lack of execution. Which we hear about everyweek. Then from my experience. You’ve got to figure out what’s the issue that’s causing it and what to do in practice to fix it. I’m not saying they aren’t doing that and are blind. Because they most certainly are. They’re professional coaches. They get paid a lot of money to coach. I don’t doubt for a second that all of them are toiling over the lack of execution and trying things to fix those issues. But that’s where the really good coaches come into play. And some years are easier than others.
Coaches are supremely confident in their abilities and to teach their scheme and techniques. And then you get humbled when you’ve put in too much, made things too complex, taught things that didn’t stick and have to figure it out to get your guys to execute. I’ve been in that boat numerous times.
In all reality. I’m a cocky arrogant fuck when it comes to football, and in the grand scheme of things, I know very little. But I’m sure it’s no different with them. Hell you probably have to be to get to that level of coaching. But when they say they’re trying to pare shit down and working on fixing issues. I don’t doubt it. But can they actually get it done.
Some day, I'd love to watch a football game with you simply to "see" the game unfold before your eyes vs. mine. I'm sure there's a great deal of disparity between what a coach observes during a game and what a fan sees (clutches red balloon patiently waiting to release it). I'd probably learn a lot about football, and I guarantee I'd make you laugh at least once per quarter.
A lot depends how much I drink during a game. Lol. Offensively. You can diagnose a lot pretty quickly based the the OL. But yeah. There’s probably a pretty big disparity between a fan. Even an avid fan and a seasoned coach. I’m not particularly seasoned. 16 years under my belt now. But the more you learn the easier it is to diagnose things quickly. I’m much more in tune to offensive concepts than defensive concepts.Some day, I'd love to watch a football game with you simply to "see" the game unfold before your eyes vs. mine. I'm sure there's a great deal of disparity between what a coach observes during a game and what a fan sees (clutches red balloon patiently waiting to release it). I'd probably learn a lot about football, and I guarantee I'd make you laugh at least once per quarter.
I’m surprised to see speculation that Lubick might leave.
If true, can’t wait for all of the back and forth about Uncle Keith!
I agree with this. If there are occasional lack of execution. I get the, we need to execute better. But when it’s consistent lack of execution. Which we hear about everyweek. Then from my experience. You’ve got to figure out what’s the issue that’s causing it and what to do in practice to fix it. I’m not saying they aren’t doing that and are blind. Because they most certainly are. They’re professional coaches. They get paid a lot of money to coach. I don’t doubt for a second that all of them are toiling over the lack of execution and trying things to fix those issues. But that’s where the really good coaches come into play. And some years are easier than others.
Coaches are supremely confident in their abilities and to teach their scheme and techniques. And then you get humbled when you’ve put in too much, made things too complex, taught things that didn’t stick and have to figure it out to get your guys to execute. I’ve been in that boat numerous times.
In all reality. I’m a cocky arrogant fuck when it comes to football, and in the grand scheme of things, I know very little. But I’m sure it’s no different with them. Hell you probably have to be to get to that level of coaching. But when they say they’re trying to pare shit down and working on fixing issues. I don’t doubt it. But can they actually get it done.
I would gladly road trip to KS for an afternoon of education & frivolity. Gotta swing by Scottsbluff & grab @Elizabeth Reed’s credit card 1st.A lot depends how much I drink during a game. Lol. Offensively. You can diagnose a lot pretty quickly based the the OL. But yeah. There’s probably a pretty big disparity between a fan. Even an avid fan and a seasoned coach. I’m not particularly seasoned. 16 years under my belt now. But the more you learn the easier it is to diagnose things quickly. I’m much more in tune to offensive concepts than defensive concepts.
Need to have a bar meet up and drink and watch a game.
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