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Sam McKewon said Gebbia was better but Frost chose “his” guy.

Not sure how Sam would know that but he posted it on RSS back in the day.

He was in every way better, but you could just tell from early on, he wasn't going to have a fair shake here.

 

[Chi7397]

With "good" coaching? what is "good" coaching? Pretty sure we'll see some coaching changes in the off season (Verdu, Austin, some GAs) I think we have to realize that the coaches can't play and make decisions on the field. If anyone thinks the coaches aren't as frustrated as we are, I think you're wrong. Some of them may not be coaching at the level they need to, that is pretty evident, but I don't believe Turd is going to make changes in season.

how do you know the team is more talented than at least half of the teams they've played? Don't get me wrong, I think coaching has A LOT to do with what the product is on the field BUT the kids have to...HAVE TO execute what they are taught and know.

The OL play has been suspect all year, they've played way better than they have all year the past couple of games. Penalties are down. Pass blocking is still suspect, Benhart is NOT a B1G Guard, he needs to shift inside.

Defense has been WAY better this year...ST still sucks but Pryztup has been better punting.

it’s been four years - if we don’t have guys who can play, it’s on Frost & Co.

if players mess up one game - yeah maybe it’s on players. If they mess up for four years in the same manner, it’s on the coaches, either for playing the same guys or for failing to effectively teach them.

sorry, but after four years, this is on the coaching staff, especially Frost. Turd may not make a change this year, but it would be 100% warranted if he chose to do so.

 

[MtnHusker]

He was in every way better, but you could just tell from early on, he wasn't going to have a fair shake here.

Everything I heard from people who watched practice was that Gebbia was the superior QB. Martinez had some flashes but struggled throwing the ball plus grasping the offense. Gebbia was a respected leader of the team. Known for watching hours of film and being an incredible hard worker. Respected by the players and a team leader plus he had a much better command of the offense. Offense ran much better when he was the QB. I have cousins who hung out with players on the team and they were shocked Martinez was named the starter over Gebbia. Caused division on the team. And Frost basically took a shit on Gebbia in front of 3/4 of the team that respected Gebbia as a player, friend and leader. Blatantly playing favorites to your recruits is not the way you win over the returning players.

 

[Minute Man]

Everything I heard from people who watched practice was that Gebbia was the superior QB. Martinez had some flashes but struggled throwing the ball plus grasping the offense. Gebbia was a respected leader of the team. Known for watching hours of film and being an incredible hard worker. Respected by the players and a team leader plus he had a much better command of the offense. Offense ran much better when he was the QB. I have cousins who hung out with players on the team and they were shocked Martinez was named the starter over Gebbia. Caused division on the team. And Frost basically took a shit on Gebbia in front of 3/4 of the team that respected Gebbia as a player, friend and leader. Blatantly playing favorites to your recruits is not the way you win over the returning players.

The same could be said about how long it took Ozigbo to play over Bell.

The thing is, Adrian is a good kid and no one will say any different, but to be the QB1 of a good team you have to have a delicate balance of asshole and arrogance with it. That’s just not in his nature and it’s why he fails whenever the pressure is high.

That is all part of recruiting. The most athletically talented player might not be the best and Frost was so afraid of intimidating HIS qb that he never even attempted to recruit over him. If that’s how you think a major program should be run, then you have no business running one (see Caleb Williams).

 

[ChocaEgg]

Everything I heard from people who watched practice was that Gebbia was the superior QB. Martinez had some flashes but struggled throwing the ball plus grasping the offense. Gebbia was a respected leader of the team. Known for watching hours of film and being an incredible hard worker. Respected by the players and a team leader plus he had a much better command of the offense. Offense ran much better when he was the QB. I have cousins who hung out with players on the team and they were shocked Martinez was named the starter over Gebbia. Caused division on the team. And Frost basically took a shit on Gebbia in front of 3/4 of the team that respected Gebbia as a player, friend and leader. Blatantly playing favorites to your recruits is not the way you win over the returning players.

Tried telling people on 247 that what you described was part of the reason we had to hear that dumbass "buy in" excuse for three years...and it was self-inflicted.

 

[Sous Chef]

Tried telling people on 247 that what you described was part of the reason we had to hear that dumbass "buy in" excuse for three years...and it was self-inflicted.

The arrogance and misplaced confidence that Frost came in with is really staggering when you do an honest retrospective of just what has gone down the last four years. Frost's who gives a shit attitude regarding special teams alone is a fire worthy lack of coaching acumen and execution all by itself. And the utter shit show that is our red zone offense with zero willingness to do anything but run the same shit on 1st and goal as you do on 1st and 10 from your own 25 is a close second. Is it any wonder that players have a hard time buying in? Can anyone honestly say right now that Wandale didn't make the right move?

 

[Poor_and_Stupid]

I’ll never forget that. Ronald Thompkins was in that group as well. I was watching that closely at the time. Currently watching him rip K-State a new ahole. Possibly the number 1 RB off the board in the NFL draft this year…and we could of had him 😞

and Held wouldn't have developed him into the back he is today

Definitely would have shredded his knee either the moment he committed here or in the first 2 weeks of practice. It’s the Nebraska way.

 

[Cash68847]

The arrogance and misplaced confidence that Frost came in with is really staggering when you do an honest retrospective of just what has gone down the last four years. Frost's who gives a shit attitude regarding special teams alone is a fire worthy lack of coaching acumen and execution all by itself. And the utter shit show that is our red zone offense with zero willingness to do anything but run the same shit on 1st and goal as you do on 1st and 10 from your own 25 is a close second. Is it any wonder that players have a hard time buying in? Can anyone honestly say right now that Wandale didn't make the right move?

He blamed part of the loss on little details again too. He doesn’t understand the little things.

 

[Pipe Line]

But to do that we need to hire coaches who can identify talent and then develop it. Plus be good at game planning and in game coaching. This staff has failed at all of those categories. As an example took Rahmir Johnson over All American Breece Hall, who's step-dad is former Husker Jeff Smith. Bottom line is year 4 this staff has shown they aren't winners. I have no problem giving a coach time if the team looks well coached and is constantly improving. We haven't seen anything that shows us this staff can achieve that. I can appreciate your constant support of Frost but he isn't winning.

Hard to argue that to be honest. Just my opinion but I don’t think Turd let’s him go unless we lose out and look bad doing it, which after yesterday isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Is there an option of Frost just being that CEO type HC and us having solid assistants around him and paying well for it? I mean just to be quite honest my entire teenage to adult life has essentially been one “rebuild” after the next, and I’m just not interested in another one so I’m brainstorming to find a solution. Regardless of what anyone on here thinks, it seems to be that the powers to be want Frost to be the face of this at almost all costs.

 

[Pipe Line]

no disrespect taken my friend...I feel the same. It drives me crazy to think that the Nebraska teams I've known can't get the ball into the end zone from one yard out. FFS they put Deontre Thomas in as a full back once...do that shit again. Like you said, let them know what's coming and try to stop it!!

I'm frustrated as hell at this team of Jekyll and Hydes, changes are coming and they'll be coming swiftly if this thing keeps spiraling (well at the end of the season) at least for football staff.

It really feels like they essentially don’t trust everything they practice. And if that’s the case, then why spend time practicing it? That video with Yant at FB on HOL essentially feels like something to get the fan base excited and that’s it, even though it sounds really smart

 

[Pipe Line]

Our line wouldn't win that battle.

If they can’t push 6 inches then none of them deserve to be Power 5 football players

 

[Pipe Line]

The arrogance and misplaced confidence that Frost came in with is really staggering when you do an honest retrospective of just what has gone down the last four years. Frost's who gives a shit attitude regarding special teams alone is a fire worthy lack of coaching acumen and execution all by itself. And the utter shit show that is our red zone offense with zero willingness to do anything but run the same shit on 1st and goal as you do on 1st and 10 from your own 25 is a close second. Is it any wonder that players have a hard time buying in? Can anyone honestly say right now that Wandale didn't make the right move?

That’s what I don’t understand. Scott literally played for a guy who was absolutely anal about the little details and ST and those are our worst 2 areas. He preaches the shit all the time then basically ignores it when the lights come on

 

[ChocaEgg]

If they can’t push 6 inches then none of them deserve to be Power 5 football players

Benhart and Sichterman sure as fuck shouldn't be P5 players.

 

[Cash68847]

Benhart and Sichterman sure as fuck shouldn't be P5 players.

Cochoran is as bad. A lot of these guys had good offers. Maybe it’s coaching.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Cochoran is as bad. A lot of these guys had good offers. Maybe it’s coaching.

Coaching and scheme.

 

[Boondock_St_Sker]

That’s what I don’t understand. Scott literally played for a guy who was absolutely anal about the little details and ST and those are our worst 2 areas. He preaches the shit all the time then basically ignores it when the lights come on

Now Scott works for a guy who is absolutely anal about the little details...Turd, has to treat this like a business and make business decisions. If Scott isn't the guy in Turd's eyes, then he's got to make a change. But I fall back to "What does Nebraska football NEED, to get over the hump?" We can all say better coaching and that's fair but there has to be something deeper than that and I don't know what it is.

 

[Cash68847]

Coaching and scheme.

Therefore they might be power 5 players. We need coaches to coach them up.

 

[MtnHusker]

Hard to argue that to be honest. Just my opinion but I don’t think Turd let’s him go unless we lose out and look bad doing it, which after yesterday isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Is there an option of Frost just being that CEO type HC and us having solid assistants around him and paying well for it? I mean just to be quite honest my entire teenage to adult life has essentially been one “rebuild” after the next, and I’m just not interested in another one so I’m brainstorming to find a solution. Regardless of what anyone on here thinks, it seems to be that the powers to be want Frost to be the face of this at almost all costs.

Why are you so adamant in your support of Frost? Yes rebuilds are a risk but right now we know what we have and it isn't working. Go through the history of coaches and find me a coach who started out with 4 losing seasons at a Power5 that eventually turned it around? Why are you afraid of change? We are one of the laughing stocks of Power5 football. Terribly coached team that finds new ways to create embarrassing loses almost weekly. Our recruiting class is garbage. Our player development is the worst we have had. Play calling and in game management are head scratchers........

What has this staff shown you that makes you want to try so hard to keep Frost as the CEO of Football at Nebraska?

 

[Jim14510]

The same could be said about how long it took Ozigbo to play over Bell.

The thing is, Adrian is a good kid and no one will say any different, but to be the QB1 of a good team you have to have a delicate balance of asshole and arrogance with it. That’s just not in his nature and it’s why he fails whenever the pressure is high.

That is all part of recruiting. The most athletically talented player might not be the best and Frost was so afraid of intimidating HIS qb that he never even attempted to recruit over him. If that’s how you think a major program should be run, then you have no business running one (see Caleb Williams).

This is probably nuance but I don't think a qb has to be an asshole. QB's are generally assholes and arrogant but I don't think that's a requirement to lead.

100% confidence though. There's a range of confidence from not arrogant to cocky fucking asshole. Too much of being a cocky fucking asshole works against you. Nearly impossible to be 100% confident and not at all arrogant.

 

[Cash68847]

This is probably nuance but I don't think a qb has to be an asshole. QB's are generally assholes and arrogant but I don't think that's a requirement to lead.

100% confidence though. There's a range of confidence from not arrogant to cocky fucking asshole. Too much of being a cocky fucking asshole works against you. Nearly impossible to be 100% confident and not at all arrogant.

Your second to last sentence describes our head coach.