The Michigan spy

[BIGSTICK67]

If Big 10 does nothing, they’re basically giving the middle finger to the rest of the conference

Like that's never happened. They have a history of doing that. And....that's why I'm not convinced that the B1G will do a whole lot of anything.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

If the only penalty is a suspended head coach on game day then everyone will start cheating immediately.

100% - it's weak sauce.

You could argue that some teams could improve w/o their head coach.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Like that's never happened. They have a history of doing that. And....that's why I'm not convinced that the B1G will do a whole lot of anything.

They won't do anything to Michigan. Just go after harbs

 

[BIGSTICK67]

They won't do anything to Michigan. Just go after harbs

Which is bullshit. WTF cares.

They should go after both. It's pretty obvious there were at least a few in on it.

 

[deltau46]

Howard couldn’t bring himself to say anything bad this morning. All he talked about was how good the players are. He was straining when the others in the set were talking about this.

He’s a worthless cock sucker.

 

[Husker825]

I agree but there is too much $$$ to be lost if Michigan makes the playoffs.

Fuck Michigan, the Big 10 (if this is the case), and the NCAA.

The conference as a whole only receives 6mil per semifinal team, and no additional money for the championship game. I am not positive how the big 10 distributes that money, but if it’s evenly it is less than $500,000 per school, even less if Michigan gets a bigger cut of that since they would have been the team playing the game. It seems to me the way the conference meetings with both the coaches and AD’s went this week, most of those schools couldn’t give a shit less about a half a million and want a just punishment.

 

[ISUforNU]

 

[22*43*51]

 

[nscottie]

Brando loves him some Michigan

 

[Pepe Silvia]

He thinks this coach going to meet a 13 year old girl got the FBI involved with Michigan. I don’t know what to think, but Harbaugh can’t be coming back.

Michigan has so many scandals going on that it's hard to keep straight, but the the FBI was involved before the pedo happened. the FBI involvement comes from the assistant coach who got fired for illegally accessing player and student emails

 

[dom91932]

Fine them their cut of the TV money. If they don't want to hurt the other sports fine them the percentage of the tv money allocated to the football program or fine them their gross spend on football.

 

[redzoner]

Brando loves him some Michigan

Trying to claim that they received no in game benefit from this is just dumb. Is it overblown? Maybe, but it's definitely not 0. I don't know how he can defend that position.

 

[dom91932]

EXCLUSIVE: Michigan President Santa Ono's strong, written message to Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti

Michigan President Santa Ono had a strong written message for Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti before they met on sign-stealing allegations

www.on3.com

EXCLUSIVE: Michigan President Santa Ono's strong, written message to Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti​

by:Chris Balas•about 6 hours•Balas_Wolverine


Michigan met with the Big Ten Friday to discuss a potential response to the conference’s threat of action against the U-M football team and head coach Jim Harbaugh. U-M is in the middle of an NCAA investigation involving alleged, illegal on-site scouting, but Ono made it clear in an e-mail to Petitti the day before the meeting where he stood.


RELATED: INSIDE THE FORT: Michigan vs. Big Ten, NCAA – what’s next?
RELATED: Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti meeting with Michigan administration casts doubt


Ono’s e-mail to Petitti:


Dear Tony,


“I look forward to our meeting and am writing now to share some of my deeply held beliefs, which I hope can inform our conversation and guide what we do next.


“None of us wants to be in this situation. The University of Michigan takes its compliance obligations seriously. We are committed to ethics, integrity, and fair play. It is at our core and always will be. And that is why I am so deeply concerned about the allegations.

“We are fully cooperating with the NCAA in its investigation, as it seeks to separate the facts from irresponsible speculation seen in much of the public and social media discourse.

“It’s precisely at these times — when all key facts are not known but others are all too comfortable offering strongly held opinion — that it is essential for everyone to ensure that investigations are conducted fairly and that conclusions are based on what actually happened. The reputation and livelihoods of coaches, students, and programs cannot be sacrificed in a rush to judgment, no matter how many and how loudly people protest otherwise. Due process matters.

“We, as would any other member of the Big 10, deserve nothing less. Our students, our coaches, our program—all are entitled to a fair, deliberate, thoughtful process. We are aware that other representatives of the Big10 are demanding that you take action now, before any meaningful investigation and full consideration of all the evidence. That is not something our conference rules permit. And we both know it is not what any other member would want if allegations were raised against their people or programs.

“The Big 10 has not informed us of any investigation of its own, as would be required under conference rules. And, to be clear, oral updates from NCAA enforcement staff do not and cannot constitute evidence, nor do we think the NCAA would ever intend for an oral update to be given that meaning or weight.

“The best course of action, the one far more likely to ascertain the facts, is to await the results of the NCAA investigation. But if you refuse to let the NCAA investigative process play out, the Big 10 may not take any action against the University or its players or coaches without commencing its own investigation and offering us the opportunity to provide our position. That is not just required by our conference rules; it is a matter of basic fairness. “


Sincerely,



Santa J. Ono
President
University of Michigan


Despite some new evidence produced, according to sources, and “strong threats of action” from Petitti and others, the Big Ten left without acting, and Ono insisted again they would not self-impose punishment on Harbaugh. He and his colleagues remain steadfast in their desire to let the investigation play out.


Our sources tell us there was no indication the Big Ten was prepared to accept a 2-game suspension, as some reported (too “light” a punishment), and they at least threatened significant action if Michigan didn’t enforce any. They seemed more interested in a Harbaugh suspension, not anything keeping the team from competing this year.


Some expect the Big Ten to act as soon as Monday on a potential Harbaugh suspension. Harbaugh could fight with an injunction, if necessary, to keep coaching, and some believe that would be the course of action.

 

[nscottie]

https://www.Tater Island.com/teams/...message-to-big-ten-commissioner-tony-petitti/

EXCLUSIVE: Michigan President Santa Ono's strong, written message to Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti​

by:Chris Balas•about 6 hours•Balas_Wolverine


Michigan met with the Big Ten Friday to discuss a potential response to the conference’s threat of action against the U-M football team and head coach Jim Harbaugh. U-M is in the middle of an NCAA investigation involving alleged, illegal on-site scouting, but Ono made it clear in an e-mail to Petitti the day before the meeting where he stood.


RELATED: INSIDE THE FORT: Michigan vs. Big Ten, NCAA – what’s next?
RELATED: Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti meeting with Michigan administration casts doubt


Ono’s e-mail to Petitti:


Dear Tony,


“I look forward to our meeting and am writing now to share some of my deeply held beliefs, which I hope can inform our conversation and guide what we do next.


“None of us wants to be in this situation. The University of Michigan takes its compliance obligations seriously. We are committed to ethics, integrity, and fair play. It is at our core and always will be. And that is why I am so deeply concerned about the allegations.

“We are fully cooperating with the NCAA in its investigation, as it seeks to separate the facts from irresponsible speculation seen in much of the public and social media discourse.

“It’s precisely at these times — when all key facts are not known but others are all too comfortable offering strongly held opinion — that it is essential for everyone to ensure that investigations are conducted fairly and that conclusions are based on what actually happened. The reputation and livelihoods of coaches, students, and programs cannot be sacrificed in a rush to judgment, no matter how many and how loudly people protest otherwise. Due process matters.

“We, as would any other member of the Big 10, deserve nothing less. Our students, our coaches, our program—all are entitled to a fair, deliberate, thoughtful process. We are aware that other representatives of the Big10 are demanding that you take action now, before any meaningful investigation and full consideration of all the evidence. That is not something our conference rules permit. And we both know it is not what any other member would want if allegations were raised against their people or programs.

“The Big 10 has not informed us of any investigation of its own, as would be required under conference rules. And, to be clear, oral updates from NCAA enforcement staff do not and cannot constitute evidence, nor do we think the NCAA would ever intend for an oral update to be given that meaning or weight.

“The best course of action, the one far more likely to ascertain the facts, is to await the results of the NCAA investigation. But if you refuse to let the NCAA investigative process play out, the Big 10 may not take any action against the University or its players or coaches without commencing its own investigation and offering us the opportunity to provide our position. That is not just required by our conference rules; it is a matter of basic fairness. “


Sincerely,



Santa J. Ono
President
University of Michigan


Despite some new evidence produced, according to sources, and “strong threats of action” from Petitti and others, the Big Ten left without acting, and Ono insisted again they would not self-impose punishment on Harbaugh. He and his colleagues remain steadfast in their desire to let the investigation play out.


Our sources tell us there was no indication the Big Ten was prepared to accept a 2-game suspension, as some reported (too “light” a punishment), and they at least threatened significant action if Michigan didn’t enforce any. They seemed more interested in a Harbaugh suspension, not anything keeping the team from competing this year.


Some expect the Big Ten to act as soon as Monday on a potential Harbaugh suspension. Harbaugh could fight with an injunction, if necessary, to keep coaching, and some believe that would be the course of action.

Blow me Ono

 

[cwessel76]

Blow me Ono

Both Yoko and Sonny

 

[Pepe Silvia]

this isn't new, but I hadn't seen it before and thought it was interesting

What kind of advantage does sign-stealing give? Those in the football world weigh in

A look at what those in the football world believe about potential sign stealing with Michigan and in college football.

www.on3.com

“I actually spoke to a Big Ten source, who gave me a quote — if other people are out there sharing anonymous quotes and these ESPN and SI articles, I can too. So, here is what I learned, ‘Every Sunday, coaches and support staff with mutual connections throughout the conference contact each other to trade not just schematic notes, but also to trade signals. Some of the top teams who consistently trade signals and have very accurate information on common opponents are Michigan, Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana, and Purdue. Other teams who are decent at it and would always look to trade are Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Minnesota, and Penn State. Wisconsin was oblivious to it but is likely no longer with the new staff. Michigan State, Cockeye, and Nebraska appear to be oblivious and out of the loop.’

 

[LoudHogRider]

https://www.Tater Island.com/teams/...message-to-big-ten-commissioner-tony-petitti/

EXCLUSIVE: Michigan President Santa Ono's strong, written message to Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti​

by:Chris Balas•about 6 hours•Balas_Wolverine


Michigan met with the Big Ten Friday to discuss a potential response to the conference’s threat of action against the U-M football team and head coach Jim Harbaugh. U-M is in the middle of an NCAA investigation involving alleged, illegal on-site scouting, but Ono made it clear in an e-mail to Petitti the day before the meeting where he stood.


RELATED: INSIDE THE FORT: Michigan vs. Big Ten, NCAA – what’s next?
RELATED: Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti meeting with Michigan administration casts doubt


Ono’s e-mail to Petitti:


Dear Tony,


“I look forward to our meeting and am writing now to share some of my deeply held beliefs, which I hope can inform our conversation and guide what we do next.


“None of us wants to be in this situation. The University of Michigan takes its compliance obligations seriously. We are committed to ethics, integrity, and fair play. It is at our core and always will be. And that is why I am so deeply concerned about the allegations.

“We are fully cooperating with the NCAA in its investigation, as it seeks to separate the facts from irresponsible speculation seen in much of the public and social media discourse.

“It’s precisely at these times — when all key facts are not known but others are all too comfortable offering strongly held opinion — that it is essential for everyone to ensure that investigations are conducted fairly and that conclusions are based on what actually happened. The reputation and livelihoods of coaches, students, and programs cannot be sacrificed in a rush to judgment, no matter how many and how loudly people protest otherwise. Due process matters.

“We, as would any other member of the Big 10, deserve nothing less. Our students, our coaches, our program—all are entitled to a fair, deliberate, thoughtful process. We are aware that other representatives of the Big10 are demanding that you take action now, before any meaningful investigation and full consideration of all the evidence. That is not something our conference rules permit. And we both know it is not what any other member would want if allegations were raised against their people or programs.

“The Big 10 has not informed us of any investigation of its own, as would be required under conference rules. And, to be clear, oral updates from NCAA enforcement staff do not and cannot constitute evidence, nor do we think the NCAA would ever intend for an oral update to be given that meaning or weight.

“The best course of action, the one far more likely to ascertain the facts, is to await the results of the NCAA investigation. But if you refuse to let the NCAA investigative process play out, the Big 10 may not take any action against the University or its players or coaches without commencing its own investigation and offering us the opportunity to provide our position. That is not just required by our conference rules; it is a matter of basic fairness. “


Sincerely,



Santa J. Ono
President
University of Michigan


Despite some new evidence produced, according to sources, and “strong threats of action” from Petitti and others, the Big Ten left without acting, and Ono insisted again they would not self-impose punishment on Harbaugh. He and his colleagues remain steadfast in their desire to let the investigation play out.


Our sources tell us there was no indication the Big Ten was prepared to accept a 2-game suspension, as some reported (too “light” a punishment), and they at least threatened significant action if Michigan didn’t enforce any. They seemed more interested in a Harbaugh suspension, not anything keeping the team from competing this year.


Some expect the Big Ten to act as soon as Monday on a potential Harbaugh suspension. Harbaugh could fight with an injunction, if necessary, to keep coaching, and some believe that would be the course of action.

 

[nscottie]

Harbaugh already threatening legal action

 

[dom91932]

this isn't new, but I hadn't seen it before and thought it was interesting

https://www.Tater Island.com/teams/...at-kind-of-advantage-does-sign-stealing-give/

“I actually spoke to a Big Ten source, who gave me a quote — if other people are out there sharing anonymous quotes and these ESPN and SI articles, I can too. So, here is what I learned, ‘Every Sunday, coaches and support staff with mutual connections throughout the conference contact each other to trade not just schematic notes, but also to trade signals. Some of the top teams who consistently trade signals and have very accurate information on common opponents are Michigan, Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana, and Purdue. Other teams who are decent at it and would always look to trade are Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Minnesota, and Penn State. Wisconsin was oblivious to it but is likely no longer with the new staff. Michigan State, Cockeye, and Nebraska appear to be oblivious and out of the loop.’

Ex-college football staffer shared docs with Michigan, showing Big Ten team had Wolverines' signs

A former college football staffer shared documents with Michigan that showed a Big Ten opponent had spreadsheets of the Wolverines’ signs last year obtained before his team played Michigan.

apnews.com

 

[herbsinator]

this isn't new, but I hadn't seen it before and thought it was interesting

https://www.Tater Island.com/teams/...at-kind-of-advantage-does-sign-stealing-give/

“I actually spoke to a Big Ten source, who gave me a quote — if other people are out there sharing anonymous quotes and these ESPN and SI articles, I can too. So, here is what I learned, ‘Every Sunday, coaches and support staff with mutual connections throughout the conference contact each other to trade not just schematic notes, but also to trade signals. Some of the top teams who consistently trade signals and have very accurate information on common opponents are Michigan, Rutgers, Ohio State, Indiana, and Purdue. Other teams who are decent at it and would always look to trade are Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Minnesota, and Penn State. Wisconsin was oblivious to it but is likely no longer with the new staff. Michigan State, Cockeye, and Nebraska appear to be oblivious and out of the loop.’

Hard to get up on Sunday and trade signals when you’re getting blackout drunk and doing coke on Saturday night at Gate 25.