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In all reality, there isn't much difference IMO between the two. But if you say that to some purists...watch out. The biggest difference in my mind is what the back reads and where he cuts.
I hate that damn TE/Pirate stunt. It's a bitch. I spoke to Strohmeier a few years ago at a Glazier clinic and talked that stunt vs an offense. He said the same thing, it's a real fucker.
Pretty much. We'll fold a lot on the backside of our Tight zone if we get the 3 tech set to the side of the back to get the ball up the shoot of the defense.
Haha funny how I think that every time I read up on it that is basically what conclusion I come too.
This framing makes me rage
Assuming he means the DL moves pre-snap to a new alignment. If I remember correctly, they started with the 3 tech set to the back and stemmed to the 3 tech away from the back.
Maybe it is how I was taught, but I really like the idea of a DUO/Tight zone vs a IZ half gap over blocking scheme. I would rather get good doubles and vertical movement on the 1/3 techs handled.
We fold ours quite a bit on the backside of the zone. I like Tight Zone a lot better than Mid or Inside Zone. The only issue you run into with TZ is DL stunts. I feel like you pick that stuff up a lot better.
Ya I feel most stunts fuck with zone blocking. You really need an OL that can communicate well to handle them regardless of zone or man blocking.
No. They set the strength to the back and shifted them over a gap. Basically just gets the OL thinking/communicating more on what they're doing. What killed the play is that motherfucking pirate stunt/TE/Tex whatever you want to call it. It's an exchange by the 5 tech and 3 tech and it is a real mother fucker to deal with when you run a lot of zone read type stuff. I think that's why you're starting to see a lot of teams go to Duo. The aim point and entry of the back keeps him away from that bullshit.
Let's try this. Can you a 2020 clip where the O-Line did what they were supposed to in the run game and the play worked? That way I can see the difference?
NW was playing with what I would call a light box. This allowed them to play +1 on each of the WR pairs, but you have 7 vs 5 in the box.
IMO, it's hard even for high-level guys. It's damn near impossible to pick up unless you get a clear indicator its coming. The last photo the 5 tech is so far off you know he's stunting, so you could alter your steps and aim points to maybe get him, but the 3 tech is intentionally spiking to pick the tackle off so he can't get the 5 tech. The 3 tech becomes the edge setter by virtue of positioning. The shear leverage advantage the defense gains with this stunt vs IZ just kills it. Even if your center is able to pick the spiking 5, you've then left the LB with leverage as a free hitter. There's no way the tackle is going to pick him up.
Ya my comment was going to a different concept if you are getting that stunt. You need to catch them and hit a couple big plays to get them to adjust.
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