Things that make me rage - Shitty OL Play

[slattimer]

@slattimer what's your thoughts on this play?



Tough to tell given the angle.

IZr with that arrow option?
Is the defense lined up right? LBs are shaded heavy to the left.
Is that how the center is so supposed to block this? Love the physicality but shouldn't he be trying to climb to MLB?
If we block the 3 tech it seems like this is set up better.

Feel like it's Duo based on how the C comes off and the play of the right side of the OL is playing. The way the defense is shaded gives them a clear advantage because the angles to LBs aren't great.

 

[cwessel76]

This should be a staple play next year.

1. RPOs are so hard to play against. Hell yes.

2. Ervin will be a beast. The RBs we have (except for Thompson when he is healthy) don’t seem like instinctive runners IMO.

 

[cwessel76]

@slattimer what's your thoughts on this play?



Tough to tell given the angle.

IZr with that arrow option?
Is the defense lined up right? LBs are shaded heavy to the left.
Is that how the center is so supposed to block this? Love the physicality but shouldn't he be trying to climb to MLB?
If we block the 3 tech it seems like this is set up better.

Is it unreasonable to ask if Martinez should have audibled out of that play?

 

[slattimer]

Is it unreasonable to ask if Martinez should have audibled out of that play?

Could, but I don't think that's a dead play if they handle the 3 tech at all. Based on the structure of the defense at the snap, that should have been a cut back all day, but the RB couldn't. If the Mike is outside on Duo, the RB either plunges through or cuts back.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

@slattimer is this 4 Verts? Where the outside WRs have a curl option against off coverage?

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Could, but I don't think that's a dead play if they handle the 3 tech at all. Based on the structure of the defense at the snap, that should have been a cut back all day, but the RB couldn't. If the Mike is outside on Duo, the RB either plunges through or cuts back.

Yaa the 3 tech fucks this play.

 

[slattimer]

@slattimer is this 4 Verts? Where the outside WRs have a curl option against off coverage?

Yeah, looks like their Boss concept.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Yeah, looks like their Boss concept.

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So if you have press do the outside guys turn to verts?

Whats the QB read/progression?

What triggers the slots to run a fade vs the seem?

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

@slattimer what would you call this play?

Looks like wide zone except I have no clue what the OL is doing.

 

[slattimer]

@slattimer what would you call this play?

Looks like wide zone except I have no clue what the OL is doing.

That's a bash sweep with a sprint-out concept to the left side. The OL in sprint-out protection, QB reads the EMOL for give/keep. If he gets a keep read, he runs the sprint-out concept to the left side.

You can see the WRs to the left side running a flat/corner concept.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

That's a bash sweep with a sprint-out concept to the left side. The OL in sprint-out protection, QB reads the EMOL for give/keep. If he gets a keep read, he runs the sprint-out concept to the left side.

You can see the WRs to the left side running a flat/corner concept.

So does the OL basically fuck with the LBs to slow them up so the RB can win to the corner?

 

[slattimer]

So does the OL basically fuck with the LBs to slow them up so the RB can win to the corner?

Kind of, it's a good false key.

But it's an RPO, not in the sense most people thinking of, you read one guy, if he goes for the sweep, QB pulls and runs the sprint-out, reading the flat defender.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Kind of, it's a good false key.

But it's an RPO, not in the sense most people thinking of, you read one guy, if he goes for the sweep, QB pulls and runs the sprint-out, reading the flat defender.

That just seems like an odd play design.

Can't say I am the biggest fan because you basically have 2 guys unblocked and trying to false key them to beat them.

I almost wonder if you run plays like this to fuck with how fast the LBs play to set up other run plays if that makes sense.

 

[Kaladin]

Chaz put together a nice little article on our o-line that is worth skimming.

Link

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Chaz put together a nice little article on our o-line that is worth skimming.

Link

The inexperience on the OL is the main reason to expect this season to be a disaster, imo

 

[Kaladin]

The inexperience on the OL is the main reason to expect this season to be a disaster, imo

I think the line is talented enough that the season won't be a disaster. But the inexperience makes me think the ceiling might be 6-7 wins.

 

[Kaladin]

If we could go out and get an experienced RG from the transfer portal that would be huge for us.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I think the line is talented enough that the season won't be a disaster. But the inexperience makes me think the ceiling might be 6-7 wins.

Yeah I hope that talent plays well beyond it's years, but the inexperience is not a great indicator of a step forward

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Here is another colossal fuck up.

 

[slattimer]

Here is another colossal fuck up.

They better start to have answers for teams that constantly spike and play games away from the back. NW especially does this with great success.