Things that make me rage - Shitty OL Play

[slattimer]

Figured this would be a good thread for me to ask a question I've always wondered about:

What is going through a guy like Frost's mind when he gets asked anything even remotely technical by a layman journalist, fan, administrator, etc.? I imagine if the stuff being posted about on here is like Greek to many of us, the level at which a dude like Frost understands the game is basically incomprehensible. I have to imagine there are a lot of frustrating moments where people assume they know more than they do and then a need to find ways to translate all this stuff into either cliches or something meaningful but understandable. Must be weird.

But seriously, with how complex defenses are and what they can do in the coverage and blitz world, the common fan doesn't have a fucking clue. Shit, I don't have a fucking clue in some of those areas. The advent of match principles in zone coverage makes defenses incredibly complex, and I'm always impressed by some dudes on Twitter that can call out almost immediately, Oh, that's Stubbie, or Oh that's Special, or Solo, or Mint Miami Stubbie Chop....

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

But seriously, with how complex defenses are and what they can do in the coverage and blitz world, the common fan doesn't have a fucking clue. Shit, I don't have a fucking clue in some of those areas. The advent of match principles in zone coverage makes defenses incredibly complex, and I'm always impressed by some dudes on Twitter that can call out almost immediately, Oh, that's Stubbie, or Oh that's Special, or Solo, or Mint Miami Stubbie Chop....

I'd love to hear Frost go completely technical in an interview one time, even if I didn't understand any of it.

 

[alt f4]

Know thy enemy.

After watching this, there isn't a single Nebraska offensive coach who coaches to Cockeye's level.

 

[slattimer]

After watching this, there isn't a single Nebraska offensive coach who coaches to Cockeyes's level.

That's disturbing to hear....

 

[22*43*51]

After watching this, there isn't a single Nebraska offensive coach who coaches to Cockeyes's level.

Personally I think Cockeye could benefit from a little of this.

Edit: LOL @ tPB making me post "Cockeye's". Damn you @HuskerGarrett !!!

 

[HCFord1]

But seriously, with how complex defenses are and what they can do in the coverage and blitz world, the common fan doesn't have a fucking clue. Shit, I don't have a fucking clue in some of those areas. The advent of match principles in zone coverage makes defenses incredibly complex, and I'm always impressed by some dudes on Twitter that can call out almost immediately, Oh, that's Stubbie, or Oh that's Special, or Solo, or Mint Miami Stubbie Chop....

Ah, good ole Mint Miami Stubbie Chop. Classic.

 

[HCFord1]

Personally I think Cockeyes could benefit from a little of this.

Sometimes I feel old. Then I remind myself that Harrison Beck is younger than me.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Figured this would be a good thread for me to ask a question I've always wondered about:

What is going through a guy like Frost's mind when he gets asked anything even remotely technical by a layman journalist, fan, administrator, etc.? I imagine if the stuff being posted about on here is like Greek to many of us, the level at which a dude like Frost understands the game is basically incomprehensible. I have to imagine there are a lot of frustrating moments where people assume they know more than they do and then a need to find ways to translate all this stuff into either cliches or something meaningful but understandable. Must be weird.

Frost underestimates my football knowledge.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Oh, that's Stubbie, or Oh that's Special, or Solo, or Mint Miami Stubbie Chop....

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Personally I think Cockeyes could benefit from a little of this.

Edit: LOL @ tPB making me post "Cockeye's". Damn you @HuskerGarrett !!!

He is far too chunky for ragu

 

[Pipe Line]

Frost underestimates my football knowledge.

Do you know/have spoken to/talked football with Frost and his squad? Feel like the only way hed know that is through conversation....

 

[slattimer]

Not OL play, but some day 1 install type stuff in the PAP/Pass game.

Nebraska calls it Saints, some people call lit Y-cross. They describe it as a Hi/Lo Sweeps.



So one example here of the basic concept. Doesn't matter the combination of the routes being run, it's the same picture for the QB if they get to the right spots as in the figure below. Some Dan Gonzalez stuff that I'm a big fan of.



Anyways, saw a clip of practice and this would be the backside part of the concept. #2 receiver is running the Y-Cross. The backside #1 is working the high portion, which can be a number of things including a skinny post as in the diagram or converting it to a post/corner. They ran this combo a shit ton when AM was a freshman and was really good to them, not so much last year. If you've got a backside #1, it's one of the best concepts in football. Really similar to 4 verts, which is how we basically treat it.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Not OL play, but some day 1 install type stuff in the PAP/Pass game.

Nebraska calls it Saints, some people call lit Y-cross. They describe it as a Hi/Lo Sweeps.

View attachment 2488

So one example here of the basic concept. Doesn't matter the combination of the routes being run, it's the same picture for the QB if they get to the right spots as in the figure below. Some Dan Gonzalez stuff that I'm a big fan of.

View attachment 2489

Anyways, saw a clip of practice and this would be the backside part of the concept. #2 receiver is running the Y-Cross. The backside #1 is working the high portion, which can be a number of things including a skinny post as in the diagram or converting it to a post/corner. They ran this combo a shit ton when AM was a freshman and was really good to them, not so much last year. If you've got a backside #1, it's one of the best concepts in football. Really similar to 4 verts, which is how we basically treat it.

I feel like the only guy who was open on that play for us was that over drag.

Maybe I did a bad job of catching it, but this seems like a core play that the ball usually hits that cross.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

That is a large man running fast...

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Not OL play, but some day 1 install type stuff in the PAP/Pass game.

Nebraska calls it Saints, some people call lit Y-cross. They describe it as a Hi/Lo Sweeps.

View attachment 2488

So one example here of the basic concept. Doesn't matter the combination of the routes being run, it's the same picture for the QB if they get to the right spots as in the figure below. Some Dan Gonzalez stuff that I'm a big fan of.

View attachment 2489

Anyways, saw a clip of practice and this would be the backside part of the concept. #2 receiver is running the Y-Cross. The backside #1 is working the high portion, which can be a number of things including a skinny post as in the diagram or converting it to a post/corner. They ran this combo a shit ton when AM was a freshman and was really good to them, not so much last year. If you've got a backside #1, it's one of the best concepts in football. Really similar to 4 verts, which is how we basically treat it.

Good shit dude. I know this was a staple at UCF and seemed like we ran it a lot in 2018. Feel like our only pass play in 2020 was mesh. Lack of receiver talent has really fucked us.

 

[slattimer]

I feel like the only guy who was open on that play for us was that over drag.

Maybe I did a bad job of catching it, but this seems like a core play that the ball usually hits that cross.

That's why we've treated it like 4 verts without the backside vert the last several years. We've gotten more bang for our buck working the frontside hash with the Y-cross that way, and has helped open up the backside hash.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

 

[Jim14510]

Did Parker show up late and get the bad seat?

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

 

[slattimer]

Saw that last night. Interesting way to teach the progression.