Lettuce discuss USCjr

[ChocaEgg]

lol

 

[Driveway Jordan]

Be careful, the Satt fanbois on here gone come after ya

All 3 of them? I haven't seen a lot of people anywhere come to his defense.

Ultimately it is on Rhule. Satterfield might suck, but like Frost before him with the weirdo QB coach and revolving door of OC's, the HC is responsible.

 

[HughJanus]

lol

 

[...TrueColors...]

I will continue to say this. I don't know if Satterfield is good. I think his historical record gives people a lot of reason to be concerned that he can get the offense to where it needs to go to compete where we want to compete. But it's 33% into his first season as the OC and we aren't exactly that 2023 Dolphins at skill positions at the moment

This is where I am at.

I wanted to have an OC that you point to and say “This is who this guy is. This is what he does. Based on his previous work at his last couple of places, this is what we can expect to look like moving forward.”

I do think we are improved in a lot of key areas that give me hope that we are headed in the right direction as a program. But what we are going to look like and where the ceiling of the offense raises several fair questions.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

3) Tough to blame him for what I’ve seen from Sims the first two games as our turnovers went from 8 in 2 games to 1 in 2 games, but our offense looks very pedestrian.

I mean Sims was there pick... What did they see in him? He lead the country in turnovers prior to coming here. He was 8-16 (now 8-18).

Like I don't see how he fits into their vision for what they want to be?

Satterfield's offenses have been bad when it comes to turnovers, why would you go get a turnover prone QB? Are you not self aware, incompetent or was he the best we could get?

 

[cwessel76]

Anyone want to think critically about what those stats actually say?

And why would we do that?

 

[cwessel76]

I mean Sims was there pick... What did they see in him? He lead the country in turnovers prior to coming here. He was 8-16 (now 8-18).

Like I don't see how he fits into their vision for what they want to be?

Satterfield's offenses have been bad when it comes to turnovers, why would you go get a turnover prone QB? Are you not self aware, incompetent or was he the best we could get?

Yeah I really don’t see how Rhule and Satt thought they could “fix” Sims.

The kid seems like a great kid and one hell of a leader while on the sidelines. But he coughs up the ball more than my 11 year old while playing backyard football. I don’t know how you can “fix” the kid.

 

[Carm]

I mean Sims was there pick... What did they see in him? He lead the country in turnovers prior to coming here. He was 8-16 (now 8-18).

Like I don't see how he fits into their vision for what they want to be?

Satterfield's offenses have been bad when it comes to turnovers, why would you go get a turnover prone QB? Are you not self aware, incompetent or was he the best we could get?

I think there was a lot of talk about this when we brought Sims in. Not the turnovers, but the rest.

They always talked in ways that suggested Sims was a transitional guy. They talked in terms of tailoring their offense to the things that the current team could do well and recruiting in a manner that allows them to do a complete version of the offense in the future. They talked like Sims could be here either 1-2 years.

I think on an interim basis they wanted a true running threat QB who had the arm strength/accuracy to hit guys who could get over the top of the defense (which we no longer have). For what they were asking in theory they could use a simplified progression scheme, as I am sure they could see from his film, his stats, and from everything written about Sims that if is way more effective throwing to a first choice or maybe in the progression. He is poor at reading defense. All of his big passing plays happen when the guy he looks at first is open.

In short, I don't think Sims ever fit into their vision of what they want their QB to look like medium to long term - need to look at Kaelin and Manske to see that.

Sims was the best available if you want the running threat. A pure pocket passer would be getting killed. Our run blocking and RBs are not good enough to thrive without a real QB run threat.

 

[ac husker]

Saw @ShortSideOption share this...

Amazing Satterfield leaves and USCjr is tearing it up on offense now.

Cmon man. Don’t push your agenda with half facts. Rattler took off at the end of last year under Satt. Needed some time. Now just continuing with what was built last year.

I’m not a Satt apologist but I think it’s way too early to say one way or the other the guy won’t work out. We have no fricking offensive weapons and a shitty OL. Yes, Sims was Rhule’s and Satt’s pick. They made a mistake. Much like Shanahan in SF with Trey Lance. Even the best offensive minds make mistakes once in a while.

 

[...TrueColors...]

Yeah I really don’t see how Rhule and Satt thought they could “fix” Sims.

The kid seems like a great kid and one hell of a leader while on the sidelines. But he coughs up the ball more than my 11 year old while playing backyard football. I don’t know how you can “fix” the kid.

What I was slightly interested to see when Rhule was putting together his staff and roster is if he’s a guy who believes he can always turn water into wine. We don’t have to take on every reclamation project here.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

What I was slightly interested to see when Rhule was putting together his staff and roster is if he’s a guy who believes he can always turn water into wine. We don’t have to take on every reclamation project here.

Early in the regime seems like the time to take these high variance gambles (Betts, Gilbert, to a lesser degree Sims), but of course the real test will be whether they can actually build out an offensive roster where the talent is obvious

 

[DrinkItIn]

No coaches need to be removed, just four games in. I didn't like the Satt hire either, but I still do not think he has called terrible games.

Currently, NU holds the #1 spot in rushing within the B1G and ranks 6th overall in rushing. Given the limited offensive resources, the challenges with the offensive line, injuries, and the constraints posed by the quarterback situation, it seems NU is focusing on its strengths. Notably, there isn't a receiver on the team capable of stretching the defense, and the available quarterbacks aren't proficient enough to make the necessary throws.

Yes, they picked Sims, it's worth considering that the transfer portal didn't offer a plethora of available quarterbacks, particularly those willing to join NU. For a school with six consecutive losing seasons, an offensive line that has been problematic (though improving), and a shortage of genuine offensive weapons, attracting high-quality transfers has to be tough.

I know its on the coaches to bring in portal talent, and the coaches have A LOT of work to do to try and fix this offense going forward. Let's hope they are looking at potential portal transfers now, because what NU currently has on offense is not going to cut it.

And hey! Matt Rhule is just one win away from exceeding his highest number of wins as a first-year coach at a new school. 😅

 

[HCFord1]

SC really likes to throw the ball and are pretty good at it, but overall their offense is pedestrian?

Bingo. They’re second to last in the SEC in scoring offense and bottom half in total yards/game.

It just amazes me. Nebraska fans are desperate to bring in a coach who will run the fucking ball, we actually go bring in a coach who is running the fucking ball, and our fans start posting stats about how many more yards his old team is passing for now that he’s gone. Wtf is wrong with us?

 

[ShortSideOption]

I mean Sims was there pick... What did they see in him? He lead the country in turnovers prior to coming here. He was 8-16 (now 8-18).

Like I don't see how he fits into their vision for what they want to be?

Satterfield's offenses have been bad when it comes to turnovers, why would you go get a turnover prone QB? Are you not self aware, incompetent or was he the best we could get?

I'm with you, they made their bed. I would be curious to hear if it was just Geoff Collins who was telling Rhule that Sims was an NFL guy or if actual NFL people told him that. Because they look really foolish now.

My Cockeye buddy would tell me how bad Sims was and how one-dimensional he is. My South Carolina buddy would tell me how bad Satterfield is and how much better off they are. Yet I sat here and thought somehow Rhule knew something they all didn't.

As of now Haarberg at least hangs on to the freaking ball. I'll see what those turnovers look like this week though.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Is Sat really running the S Carolina playbook here though? We're going in a manball direction.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

I'm with you, they made their bed. I would be curious to hear if it was just Geoff Collins who was telling Rhule that Sims was an NFL guy or if actual NFL people told him that. Because they look really foolish now.

My Cockeye buddy would tell me how bad Sims was and how one-dimensional he is. My South Carolina buddy would tell me how bad Satterfield is and how much better off they are. Yet I sat here and thought somehow Rhule knew something they all didn't.

As of now Haarberg at least hangs on to the freaking ball. I'll see what those turnovers look like this week though.

One of the things that I have had discussions with @Yolo Bomb about is how Rhule almost always has a positive outlook on any player. He always sees what they can be. Now that has some positives... Look at the defense, we probably aren't playing 30 guys a game if he doesn't have that mindset.

One of the big drawbacks to having that mindset is you see Sims's size, speed, arm talent, etc... but you don't see his turnovers or the fact it looks like he is a bed wetter. Or you think you can fix those problems.

 

[ShortSideOption]

Is Sat really running the S Carolina playbook here though? We're going in a manball direction.

I don't know if that's the case, more than likely not. But it's all based off the same stuff for the most part. I'm quite certain SC had more options at WR last year than we do in 2023 so it absolutely looks different.

 

[ShortSideOption]

One of the things that I have had discussions with @Yolo Bomb about is how Rhule almost always has a positive outlook on any player. He always sees what they can be. Now that has some positives... Look at the defense, we probably aren't playing 30 guys a game if he doesn't have that mindset.

One of the big drawbacks to having that mindset is you see Sims's size, speed, arm talent, etc... but you don't see his turnovers or the fact it looks like he is a bed wetter. Or you think you can fix those problems.

Ya, I had wrote that it was becoming pretty clear that the things Rhule says are more to prop up confidence amongst his team. Not necessarily a ton of truth-bombs coming from him. I'm fine with that, I get that public gets mad because they feel he's "lying" but I get it.

 

[cwessel76]

Ya, I had wrote that it was becoming pretty clear that the things Rhule says are more to prop up confidence amongst his team. Not necessarily a ton of truth-bombs coming from him. I'm fine with that, I get that public gets mad because they feel he's "lying" but I get it.

Also, I think if you’re a player and you hear the coach publicly saying we suck it’s going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy at some point.

 

[Carm]

I'm with you, they made their bed. I would be curious to hear if it was just Geoff Collins who was telling Rhule that Sims was an NFL guy or if actual NFL people told him that. Because they look really foolish now.

I doubt they made the pick on the basis of a recommendations. That's very unlike Rhule. I'm sure he also watched his film and looked at the analysis of his statistics. I'd be surprised if he didn't know what he was getting in terms of ability to read defenses. The thing he couldn't have predicted is the massive regression to freshman year in turnovers.