Art Bell’s vault. West of the Rockies you’re on the air.

[ChocaEgg]

Thats the flip side, I saw some stuff lately that it's all just another cover up and that they are ours and they are some kind of high-tech stealth surveillance drones and that the government doesn't want to come out and say they have this kind of technology, so they just say they don't know what they are and let people think they are UAP/UFOs like they have done in the past.

Yeah in some cases probably, but you've gotta think they aren't going to test stuff like that in high risk areas where an accident can occur or where they can be seen/reported.

Also, some of the encounters like quite a few of the ones reported by the military involve things that defy the laws of physics completely.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

If you're ever home sick for a week, read through this survivalist forum. Some are obviously real and others are made up. It will captivate you for hours and hours once you get sucked in.

I've only been aware of the forum for probably 9 months and have only made it half-way through.

Creepy stories from the outdoors.

Back in the day, when I was in college, me and the oldest took off to a lake in the wilds of glacier country. I have extensive backcountry exposure, even did a stint as a big game guide in a remote backcountry camp. On this day we enjoyed the fishing and settled in for the night. I pulled out...

www.survivalistboards.com

 

[Cash68847]

Yea, I'm going to stick with they don't know what they are for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the sightings were some kind of government black project from the Lockheed Skunk Works or such.

I would be surprised if we reverse engineered what Lazar described in the 80s. What he described is pretty much the tic tac shit.

 

[BluesBucksNHuskers]

Growing up, I think me and my buddies were in 8th grade, we lived along the Elkhorn river, there was an old, large farmhouse almost exactly a mile north of us. I am guessing the house was built in the 1880's, going by when our town/area kind of started up. Anyway, this house was also about a mile south of our old farm/house (which my parents built that house in the 1970's), where the river house we lived in at the time was a mile south - basically I had driven or been past that old house probably thousands of times. So this old, long abandoned (as long as I can remember so at least from around 1980 as that is about when I was old enough to remember or have that house as something worth pondering why it had been abaondoned so long). I think that house had been abandoned maybe 20 years or more before 1980ish, just a guess going off what my parents said about it when I asked them once in my youth.

So anyway, this house was known as "being haunted" - basically the story why this large old classic two story farm stead house had been sitting empty for decades. I mean, who really believes that kind of stuff honestly. It was summer time, and I had a 3 wheeler (yes, I am that old) that me and my buddies would ride around the country side. I mean, 3 kids on a 3 wheeler isn't exactly safe. One day (it was summer) one of my friends says, hey, lets go see what's up with that big old house a mile north. Sure, OK, sounds fun. There were 4 of us that day - somehow all 4 of us got on my ATV and we rumbled up to this old house, which had long just been in the middle of a corn field at that point. It was all boarded up - all doors, windows, everything boarded up. This was probably about 6 pm in the afternoon.

So we pull some old boards off and get in through the back door. We are kinda creeped out, it is dark in there with very little way light can get in. We didn't have flashlights, but there was enough light to walk around at least. We walk around the main floor. Nothing out of the ordinary, and actually the inside was in great shape. Good condition wood floors, kitchen and cabinets looked in good shape. Dusty but nothing that you'd think you'd find in a house abandoned and boarded up for decades. We walk in to the main living room, and there is this big old wood hutch type of thing - the only furniture in the house. It is still in great shape and probably worth some $ we think. As we were in the living room, and loud bang or boom comes from upstairs. Sounded like something like that big old oak hutch falling on wood floors on the 2nd level. Scared the poop out of us and was ran outside, got on the ATV and scooted back to my place.

After talking it over for a half hour or so, we get our courage up, and I grab a flashlight. I think one of my buddies got a baseball bat from our garage. We head back there, it is probably 7 pm at that point, probably June or July, so days are pretty long. We go inside, and not hearing anything decide to chance going up the stairs to the 2nd level. However, before we went inside, I walked around the outside of the house, just looking to see if any doors or windows weren't boarded up. One of the old basement windows was broken out, it was one of those small windows where you'd have a tough time crawling through it. I shine my flashlight down into the basement, and there is a pretty fresh dead deer just laying there. Seeing no way how the deer even could have gotten in, it was weird to us. So that got our jimmies rustled a little.

Back to being inside, and I am leading the way up the stairs to the 2nd level. About half way up, I see some kind of reddish light. We are pretty freaked out now. We make it to the top of the stairs, and there are four rooms, all with their doors closed. Kind of how old farm stead houses were built back in the early days. But under 1 of the doors was this pretty bright reddish light. It freaked us out for sure. About when all of us entered the main central area of the upstairs with 4 rooms with closed doors surrounding us, and one room having a freaky red light coming from under the door, we hear another loud boom like something big and wooden was slammed to the floor. We get the fuck out, and quickly. We ride the ATV back to my place, that night we were camping down on a sandbar by the river, as we did at least half the nights each summer growing up. About 2 in the morning, we hear sirens. We aren't but a 3rd of a mile from the bridge crossing the hwy. We watch a fire engine and police car speed over the bridge. Not knowing why at that point.

We get up the next morning, break camp and head to my parents house for breakfast, etc. Dad comes in and is talking to mom about the old house a mile up and how it burned down last night. We were like WTF? We didn't tell my parents we were in the house as it would have sounded like we may have had something to do with it.

We did get back on the ATV around noon once the fire dept and everyone was basically gone from the area. Just rode by, stopped on the road and looked for a bit. The whole damn thing was burned to the ground. To this day, we have no idea why, the fire dept never could find a reason. None of us smoked or anything like that, there is no way we set it on fire somehow. Combined with the weird shit we experienced there the evening before - it has always confounded us just WTF was going on there, and why after damn near a 100 years that house burned down that night.

Dunno if that counts as a ghost story, but it was certainly an odd coincidence it burned down in the middle of thie night after we just experienced some weird shit in there. Where the house sat has long been a corn field now, so maybe whoever owned the house decided to burn it down for extra acreage. I doubt that honestly, as farmers would just get someone with a Cat in there and bulldoze it. It never made any sense and makes for good rememberance stories every so often with me and my old buddies. Every time I drive by that place when I am back in NE, I always look over in that cornfield and wonder.

Poor guys probably had a whole crack cooking operation there then some damn kids stumble in so they make a loud noise to scare you off. Then you come back and they think “well shit, they’re definitely going to the cops now” and burn the place down to destroy the evidence.

 

[Cash68847]

Yeah in some cases probably, but you've gotta think they aren't going to test stuff like that in high risk areas where an accident can occur or where they can be seen/reported.

Also, some of the encounters like quite a few of the ones reported by the military involve things that defy the laws of physics completely.

We can’t even send a man to Mars yet, so I can’t see us having the technology mastered with what those ufos are doing.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I would be surprised if we reverse engineered what Lazar described in the 80s. What he described is pretty much the tic tac shit.

Lazar is interesting to me. Lots of questions about if his background is legit. Seems to have not been completely honest on a few things.

I'm just hoping Lou Elizondo actually comes thru with something useful instead of hiding behind the NDA

 

[Cash68847]

Lazar is interesting to me. Lots of questions about if his background is legit. Seems to have not been completely honest on a few things.

I'm just hoping Lou Elizondo actually comes thru with something useful instead of hiding behind the NDA

Lazar even brought up element 115 before anyone had a clue what it was. Rogan and corbell brought up the background stuff of Lazar in a recent episode and said there are things they couldn’t get into, but everything added up. There are witnesses who saw him in New Mexico and on the plane to Area 51 or the other site.

 

[vailhusker]

Whatever came out with the drones in western Nebraska?

Oh, shit Jim I don't know how I forgot about this, but my cousins own a towing company out in WN they do a lot of big rig towing and recovery on the interstate, so they know the State Patrol guys pretty well so they asked one of the guys about the drones and all he would say is that "The government lost something" and that was it. Who knows what they lost but they sure were looking over a large area (large parts of 3 states) to find it.

 

[Mavsker]

It was the Feds

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Oh, shit Jim I don't know how I forgot about this, but my cousins own a towing company out in WN they do a lot of big rig towing and recovery on the intestate, so he knows the State Patrol guys pretty well so he asked one of the guys about the drones and all he would say is that "The government lost something" and that was it. Who knows what they lost but they sure were looking over a large area (large parts of 3 states) to find it.

called it

 

[RedSeaRising]

Oh, shit Jim I don't know how I forgot about this, but my cousins own a towing company out in WN they do a lot of big rig towing and recovery on the intestate, so they know the State Patrol guys pretty well so they asked one of the guys about the drones and all he would say is that "The government lost something" and that was it. Who knows what they lost but they sure were looking over a large area (large parts of 3 states) to find it.

Somehow our government is both the most scarily sophisticated and grossly incompetent organization in history.

 

[vailhusker]

Lazar even brought up element 115 before anyone had a clue what it was. Rogan and corbell brought up the background stuff of Lazar in a recent episode and said there are things they couldn’t get into, but everything added up. There are witnesses who saw him in New Mexico and on the plane to Area 51 or the other site.

He also had talked about using some kind hand scanner in his earlier interviews he might have drawn a picture of it too. One of the shows about him I watched fairly recently they had some declassified pictures I believe, of a hand scanner from some high security base, and they showed it to him, and you could tell by the look on his face that was the same kind of hand scanner that he had described using in the past and he was asking questions about where they got the pictures from and you could tell that he was so relieved and excited that there was some proof of what he's been telling people for all these years.

 

[kenyanfeline]

When overbooked or if there is an emergency, I occasionally do an overnight surgery where it’s literally just myself, a tech, and a dog. And when I do, I always listen to old reruns of Coast to Coast on 1110. It’s weird but it literally puts me “in the zone” and I feel like I work much more efficiently. Almost trance-like. I’ve done 4-6 hour surgeries that feel like 40 minutes and I have Art Bell to thank for that.

 

[Cash68847]

He also had talked about using some kind hand scanner in his earlier interviews he might have drawn a picture of it too. One of the shows about him I watched fairly recently they had some declassified pictures I believe, of a hand scanner from some high security base, and they showed it to him, and you could tell by the look on his face that was the same kind of hand scanner that he had described using in the past and he was asking questions about where they got the pictures from and you could tell that he was so relieved and excited that there was some proof of what he's been telling people for all these years.

Yep Rogan covered it in his interview. I believe him. Another interesting guest Rogan had on was Travis Walton. I’m 50-50 on him.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

Humans from the future was my original theory in high school.



This is probably my current favorite. Would still consider it aliens.

I think a lot of these things are from different dimensions. Personal opinion with all the things I've seen and read.....but thankfully only barely experienced.

The only weird/creepy experience I had was when I'd traveled to San Francisco for a business trip several years ago. It was actually in San Mateo/Foster City, so it's a beautiful, safe area. I was exiting a large free standing office tower at dusk to walk over the bridge to my hotel. Again, completely safe with people usually in the vicinity here and there. Not only that, I'd traveled to this place literally every month for years -- and had really started to fall in love with the area, people etc.

This particular night, for whatever reason the doors were locked to go out the north exit to head down the sidewalk over the huge pedestrian bridge that went over the freeway. This was highly unusual and had never happened. Which gave me only one option, and that was to head out the south doors and figure out how to get around the Metro Center Tower and building complex to the bridge. The south doors head into a courtyard area that is typically bustling during the day, and probably a 75 yard walk to a sandwich shop and grocery store just around the corner to the south.

On this night when I stepped out the office tower doors, the courtyard was COMPLETELY empty and it was nearly dark. Keep in mind I had to find my way around the office tower to the other side for the short 1/4 mile walk to the Crowne Plaza. On that night, I'd looked around and literally every possible path to get around the building was blocked. I initially thought no big deal, I'll just walk over to the grocery store and call an Uber. Right at that moment, the sky got really dark and the wind came up. We're not talking a 15 mph wind, we're talking probably 30-40 wind, swirling in the courtyard and borderline violent, sustained, etc. I was so fucking weirded out that I lost my sense of calm, and got a very bad vibe that I needed to get the eff out of that area.....and fast. My adrenaline kicked in and after jogging through the courtyard looking for a way out, I found a small passageway that'd I'd never known existed. It was pitch fucking black and windy - I just took off at a dead sprint for probably 30-40 yards. When I came out the passageway everything lit up, there was a street intersection with other pedestrians and no wind.......none. I'm like WTF just happened. I saw the pedestrian bridge about a block away and walked back to my hotel to crack a couple beers in the hotel bar.

I think back to that night often and wonder if my imagination got the best of me, or if it was something else. Think about a nightmare where you're running from something terrible. That night both the wind and darkness were real. That experience is also why I lean towards different dimensions. Since then I'd traveled back and can't say the area ever bothered me again; although I never left work after dark since that happened...lol.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Yep Rogan covered it in his interview. I believe him. Another interesting guest Rogan had on was Travis Walton. I’m 50-50 on him.

Was Walton a recent one? He's had another good guest on, a fairly high ranking intel guy...Chris Mellon?

 

[Cash68847]

Was Walton a recent one? He's had another good guest on, a fairly high ranking intel guy...Chris Mellon?

Melon was in the government under Obama I think. Walton was one of the loggers who got abducted. He went missing for a week or so. They thought the other loggers killed him, but he reappeared and their stories were all the same. They all passed lie detector tests. Outside the Hills the Walton abduction is the other most famous one.

 

[vailhusker]

Melon was in the government under Obama I think. Walton was one of the loggers who got abducted. He went missing for a week or so. They thought the other loggers killed him, but he reappeared and their stories were all the same. They all passed lie detector tests. Outside the Hills the Walton abduction is the other most famous one.

Thats what I was going to say about Walton that makes at least the beginning and I guess the end creditable was the other loggers that were with him. Who knows about the middle, but he had to go somewhere for that missing week.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

I refused to ever mess with one of those. No thanks

Beat me to it. Stay away.....far away.

 

[Cash68847]

Thats what I was going to say about Walton that makes at least the beginning and I guess the end creditable was the other loggers that were with him. Who knows about the middle, but he had to go somewhere for that missing week.

When I listened to both Walton and Lazar, Lazar was more credible. I’m also not totally against the Walton story.

 

[Drue629]

This is the kind of thread we need in the offseason.

There's so much to get into. Someone brought up Antarctica, if you want to go into a wormhole look that shit up. Very limited people are allowed to travel there and when they do they can only go to one specific area, there's a huge wall of ice where they say an entire civilization lives underground. Maybe goes along with the simulation theory.

Did anyone bring up the amazon rainforest stuff?

I agree with people that ghosts, ufo's, and interdimensional beings could all be connected. I always think of the Interstellar movie. Maybe ghosts are just people lost between dimensions, trying to connect with their past life.