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And so it begins...(tracking Coach Prime decommits/transfers)

HerbRedman said:
I'm the Deion "devil's advocate" on here. I try not to be a hater (which is extremely difficult).

But I think Deion has realized how much work this would be at Colorado. I think he wants to put together a 7-5 season this year...get Shadildo to NFL as 1st rounder....and then resign for medical reasons. He can then make $5m/yr as a TV analyst and more through TV ads/sponsorships.

The idea that Deion wants to fight his way up the ladder - advance to A&M next and then fight his way to the Alabama job, etc.....it's looking more and more insane. Deion will be 57 at start of this CFB season. He's got NO desire to grind his way to the top for the next 10 yrs.

I know everyone is saying this, but I believe it now. Deion takes a medical retirement after 2024 season and then never coaches again. I'm ready to throw my prediction out there.
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I tend to agree. He’s doing this just for his sons. Then he’s done.
 
HerbRedman said:
18 total tackles. Good for 20th on the Pitt defense in 2023.

TBT he could develop into a very good player and was a highly ranked DL portal guy for that reason. One of Deion's better pickups this offseason.
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This is why I’m not ready to count Deion out yet. I think they will be tough the beginning of the season just like this year. Them going to the Big XII helps them out tremendously as well. I hope I’m wrong but even though they only had 4 wins last year they were better than a lot of us thought they would be. I wish we could get some of the skills guys they have.
 
Steveweiser316 said:
This is why I’m not ready to count Deion out yet. I think they will be tough the beginning of the season just like this year. Them going to the Big XII helps them out tremendously as well. I hope I’m wrong but even though they only had 4 wins last year they were better than a lot of us thought they would be. I wish we could get some of the skills guys they have.
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I think they will go 7-5 maybe even 8-4. Having an elite QB is that valuable to your W/L record. Much easier schedule for them this year too.

My only question is does Deion get to a point where his assistants can do all the work and crank out a 9-3 every year for him (in the Big 12)?

I think that's his dream - get the program to a point where it rolls along on auto pilot withoit him and he can spend all his time doing AFLAC commercials and ESPN live hits during the week. There's a world where they are able to build that up - that just requires a ton of work by his assistants. And that requires the Deion brand to do a ton of heavy lifting (he won't do if himself).

I think there's a scenario where that could happen - I just don't know how likely it is. If he keeps burning through assistant coaches like a coordinator and 2-3 other changes every yr then it probably won't work.

I'm not counting him out because there IS a possibility it works. It's just really hard to get an elite CFB program going to where it runs without the HC doing any work. I'd normally say 0% chance of it working but this would be the 1 out of 1,000,000 where it could work. I just think it's slim odds, like maybe 20% (success would be: he can get a 9-3 B12 program going for the next 5 seasons).
 
HerbRedman said:
I think they will go 7-5 maybe even 8-4. Having an elite QB is that valuable to your W/L record. Much easier schedule for them this year too.

My only question is does Deion get to a point where his assistants can do all the work and crank out a 9-3 every year for him (in the Big 12)?

I think that's his dream - get the program to a point where it rolls along on auto pilot withoit him and he can spend all his time doing AFLAC commercials and ESPN live hits during the week. There's a world where they are able to build that up - that just requires a ton of work by his assistants. And that requires the Deion brand to do a ton of heavy lifting (he won't do if himself).

I think there's a scenario where that could happen - I just don't know how likely it is. If he keeps burning through assistant coaches like a coordinator and 2-3 other changes every yr then it probably won't work.

I'm not counting him out because there IS a possibility it works. It's just really hard to get an elite CFB program going to where it runs without the HC doing any work. I'd normally say 0% chance of it working but this would be the 1 out of 1,000,000 where it could work. I just think it's slim odds, like maybe 20% (success would be: he can get a 9-3 B12 program going for the next 5 seasons).
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Yeah, I’m not counting him out either. However, he had his son at qb this year. It proved that an elite qb can only do so much. Unless he gets a better defense and better oline, they will still struggle.
 
nscottie said:
Yeah, I’m not counting him out either. However, he had his son at qb this year. It proved that an elite qb can only do so much. Unless he gets a better defense and better oline, they will still struggle.
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Yeah that will be the big test. As mentioned I actually think they'll be good this year. The big test for Deion is what happens when you start having to pick out HS QB recruits (or portal QB recruits) to start for you each year.

He's not going to have a QB as good as Shadildo every yr so the test for Deion will be how consistent can he make the program when you're bringing in brand new QBs. Even portal QBs are not sure things. For every Bo Nix/Joe Burrow there are a many more others who underperformed at their new spot.
 
Steveweiser316 said:


Is their 5 Star OT wavering?
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Jack Nicholson Reaction GIF
 
Bootleg11 said:
Rumors out there that he visited Maryland this past weekend. Also Oregon possibly flipping him.

My God I would love it if he got flipped. That was a heck of a pull by Colorado.
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Honestly, rather have him at CU than Oregon or Maryland. Colorado is going to implode after 2024 with or without this kid. Maybe we get him in the fallout.
 
HerbRedman said:
I'm the Deion "devil's advocate" on here. I try not to be a hater (which is extremely difficult).

But I think Deion has realized how much work this would be at Colorado. I think he wants to put together a 7-5 season this year...get Shadildo to NFL as 1st rounder....and then resign for medical reasons. He can then make $5m/yr as a TV analyst and more through TV ads/sponsorships.

The idea that Deion wants to fight his way up the ladder - advance to A&M next and then fight his way to the Alabama job, etc.....it's looking more and more insane. Deion will be 57 at start of this CFB season. He's got NO desire to grind his way to the top for the next 10 yrs.

I know everyone is saying this, but I believe it now. Deion takes a medical retirement after 2024 season and then never coaches again. I'm ready to throw my prediction out there.
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His entire goal is getting his kid drafted and paid. He has one of them complete.
 
HerbRedman said:
Yeah that will be the big test. As mentioned I actually think they'll be good this year. The big test for Deion is what happens when you start having to pick out HS QB recruits (or portal QB recruits) to start for you each year.

He's not going to have a QB as good as Shadildo every yr so the test for Deion will be how consistent can he make the program when you're bringing in brand new QBs. Even portal QBs are not sure things. For every Bo Nix/Joe Burrow there are a many more others who underperformed at their new spot.
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He got 2 signed this year. How good are they? We will see.
 
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