What in the flying F**k are we doing at the qb position.

[Cash68847]

Yes. A little luck gets us 9-3. A little not luck and I still think we go 6-6.

I think with a little luck we win 7. I would be shocked if we won 9. Bad luck wise we win 4. I’m thinking we win 5.

 

[Jim14510]

With lots of luck we win 9
With a good amount of luck we win 8
With some luck we win 7
With even amount of luck we win 6
With some bad luck we win 5
With a good amount of bad luck we win 4
With lots of bad luck we win 3
If all the mirrors in the weightroom break we win 2

 

[Cash68847]

With lots of luck we win 9
With a good amount of luck we win 8
With some luck we win 7
With even amount of luck we win 6
With some bad luck we win 5
With a good amount of bad luck we win 4
With lots of bad luck we win 3
If all the mirrors in the weightroom break we win 2

So where do you think we fall win wise? I think with an even amount of luck to we win 5 since Frost hasn’t had a winning season yet.

 

[Jim14510]

So where do you think we fall win wise? I think with an even amount of luck to we win 5 since Frost hasn’t had a winning season yet.

I don't really have much of an opinion tbh. We should win 7 in my mind which probably means we'll win 5.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

If 2AM leaves after 2021 then you have to assume that Frost will go out and get an experienced transfer QB who can sling it.

I fucking hope so. Because if he doesn't we are likely rolling with 1/2 rs freshmen.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

With A little luck and not pissing our pants we win 9
With Not pissing our pants we win 8
With with the shake & dance leading to a Tony Romo dribble of piss on our pants we win 7
With With a Adam Sandler you aren't cool unless you piss your pants we win 6
With With some bad Mexican and not making it in time shitting your pants we win 5
With The worst food poisoning in your life and not making it in time shitting your pants we win 3
If you get butt fucked by Carlos Polk, have bad Mexican food that gives you food poisoning shitting your pants we win 2

Fify

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

It appears regularly missing on top targets and then falling back to project QBs who Verduzco can't develop

Fwiw I was told mj isn't the top QB target. They don't like his motion or size as much.

I think the Luke McCaffrey disaster made them reevaluate their priorities in a QB.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Fwiw I was told mj isn't the top QB target. They don't like his motion or size as much.

I think the Luke McCaffrey disaster made them reevaluate their priorities in a QB.

So no Harrell because Harrell is even smaller? I wasn't insinuating Morris was their top target, but I think historically there has been a whole hell of a lot of rationalizing the guys who they land as what they wanted all along after missing on better players

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

I've got

QB
Edge
RB
And then top end talent at all positions as my areas of concerns

I would remove edge. I think they have several "good" guys. Do they have a difference maker? A top 3 round guy? Not imo or at least not developed.

So to me that falls into the top end talent.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

So no Harrell because Harrell is even smaller? I wasn't insinuating Morris was their top target, but I think historically there has been a whole hell of a lot of rationalizing the guys who they land as what they wanted all along after missing on better players

I will have to ask. I just think they are trying to emphasize arm talent.

Was told they are higher on Torres than most would think.

 

[Cash68847]

I don't really have much of an opinion tbh. We should win 7 in my mind which probably means we'll win 5.

The last three years have been the same shit. We shoot ourselves in the foot all the time. The biggest surprise for me is that our offense outside year one down the stretch has been total dog shit. I never expected our offense to be a dumpster fire at this point.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I would remove edge. I think they have several "good" guys. Do they have a difference maker? A top 3 round guy? Not imo or at least not developed.

So to me that falls into the top end talent.

That's probably fair

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

When looking at the RB transfers the staff has brought in previously and now - Bell, Washington, Mills, Stepp - and then the cluster fuck of average running backs we have currently, I’m not sure how it’s really acceptable

Held is on my shit list until he gets himself off. Even if he does it this year I'll think it is Brown more responsible

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I will have to ask. I just think they are trying to emphasize arm talent.

Was told they are higher on Torres than most would think.

You definitely need the arm talent before the running.

 

[Jim14510]

The last three years have been the same shit. We shoot ourselves in the foot all the time. The biggest surprise for me is that our offense outside year one down the stretch has been total dog shit. I never expected our offense to be a dumpster fire at this point.

An example of what I expected when Frost was hired. I bet someone that we would be in the college football playoff in year 5.

 

[Cash68847]

An example of what I expected when Frost was hired. I bet someone that we would be in the college football playoff in year 5.

I only wanted Matt Campbell or Frost when Riley was fired. The only thing that scared me about Frost was if we would play defense. I thought we would put up 40-50 a game by year 2-3 but our defense might not be good. I thought he would figure that out over time. At this point I’m wondering if he will ever have a dominant offense here. I don’t see the qbs on the roster and Frost is so damn stubborn.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

After making the mistake of not offering Burrow , and then to turn around and not even try (to my knowledge) to get McKenzie Milton.

Milton is just a 1 year guy right? I can't imagine that would be a good fit.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

You definitely need the arm talent before the running.

I thunk they over estimated their coaching ability and difficulty to develop arms.

Also underestimated the need to have a level of arm talent for this league.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I thunk they over estimated their coaching ability and difficulty to develop arms.

Also underestimated the need to have a level of arm talent for this league.

That seems like a fairly significant blunder

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

That seems like a fairly significant blunder

Like I don't want to say they didn't value arm talent, but I think they thought they could coach it up more to an acceptable level. I just think that level that they want/need for this division/league is higher than they thought initially.

I mean you are in a DIVISION where last year 3 of the top 5 defensive efficiency teams were in your DIVISION.

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You need to be able to execute at a much higher level than you did at Oregon or at the AAC. The margin for error is very small. Luke very well might be a good QB in G5, but it was laughable how defenses were playing him. It was like a shot gun spray when he threw +10 yds.

I think that is a big reason why you are seeing tempo slow and amount of motions increase is to focus on execution. The motion is to try and get the advantage the tempo use to.

I think they are valuing arm talent more, size and physicality at WR/RB.

Now what is surprising to me is I don't know what changes the defense has made in terms of what they wanted. Maybe there is a switch and it isn't obvious for me like the offense is.