Offensive Coordinator

[tman87]

Oh yup. And it’s even funnier because there were people in the game thread saying stuff like “have we ever run a slant before to help our QB?!” Well- the answer is yes we have lol

That's a little diffent than a "slant", though. A hot route can turn into a slant or curl, obviously. A quick slant is not the same as those clips you showed (which were excellent BTW). You can also turn on a dime and pull the pud.

 

[Seaofred92]

That's a little diffent than a "slant", though. A hot route can turn into a slant or curl, obviously. A quick slant is not the same as those clips you showed (which were excellent BTW).

Agreed… I’m just using “slant” as a more general term for “quick breaking/moving route against man coverage” in this instance. Barney is the primary read there on the drag route because of the blitz. If they press him in the slot or play some sort of shell game that Neyor route opens up as a possibility. I’m about to post the Neyor almost TD in the fourth quarter which was a great rub route where Neyor runs a more traditional “slant”

 

[HuskerDocCo]

Agreed… I’m just using “slant” as a more general term for “quick breaking/moving route against man coverage” in this instance. Barney is the primary read there on the drag route because of the blitz. If they press him in the slot or play some sort of shell game that Neyor route opens up as a possibility. I’m about to post the Neyor almost TD in the fourth quarter which was a great rub route where Neyor runs a more traditional “slant”

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[tman87]

Agreed… I’m just using “slant” as a more general term for “quick breaking/moving route against man coverage” in this instance. Barney is the primary read there on the drag route because of the blitz. If they press him in the slot or play some sort of shell game that Neyor route opens up as a possibility. I’m about to post the Neyor almost TD in the fourth quarter which was a great rub route where Neyor runs a more traditional “slant”

I agree. Even a rub route is not the same... and I know you know that especially with pulling your pud. There are times where a simple, quick, pull the pud, slant route is a good thing to call and run. It not only usually works, but helps keep the defense honest, and also helps a QB who needs some easy completions that pick up 5 to 10 yards.

I will say that even a simple slant can be effed up by a receiver. Has to be run crisp and quick and at the right angle. And if the defense is in a set that makes it a dangerous pass to pull the pud on, the QB has to go to 2nd and 3rd options. Which also should mostly be quick hitting/quick decisions to be able to make. Simplify is the key here. Simpllfy with routes and play calls that have a high success rate usually. And also are NOT behind the LOS throws.

 

[Seaofred92]

Here’s a great example of our QB in real time growing up….


3rd and 7. OSU has been bringing pressure all game long with no safety help over the top on third and long. Satterfield calls a great man beater here as a result of that tendency for OSU. I don’t know what happens in the in-helmet communication here between Marcus/Dylan or previously between them watching the iPad on the sideline, but I would bet they talked through this scenario and it helped based upon the action Dylan takes and the anticipatory throw he didn’t make earlier in the game.



Ball is snapped- Dylan catches at the 13 yard line. OSU bringing 7 again which is 1 more than we can block.


Dylan slyly backs up 3, almost 4 full yards to buy himself a tad more time. If you compare this to earlier, he takes another ~2 yards back from when he was sacked on a similar concept in the 3rd Q which I posted previously


That extra 2 yards back leads to him having a tad more time and he makes a great anticipatory throw (something he didn’t do previously in this game in this scenario) with a guy unblocked in his face to the spot where Neyor is going to be. Knows exactly where to go with the football based on the pressure and coverage.


Horizontal line is where Neyor is when this ball is thrown. Obviously you can see he catches the ball 2 yards further downfield and about 2 yards further inside than where he was when the ball was thrown. It’s placed perfectly for him to catch it and not break stride to get upfield to the end zone


Phenomenal recovery from the OSU DB here. Guy lost his balance from the pick when Neyor caught it and somehow got back in great position to close on the play but….


Too little too late for the DB at that point. It’s a TD against UCLAbia but against OSU it’s a first and goal. Still, phenomenal execution and play call and obvious in-game growth from earlier situations where the same thing unfolded and we didn’t handle the situation as well.

 

[tman87]

^^^ It was a good play call, good pud pulling, and good execution of the play call. It still takes longer than I like given OSU was pulling their pud and bringing heat with 7 often, AND pick plays/rub routes get called OPI fairly often. But it was well called and executed by our receivers and DR, which got us within inches of scoring and pulling our pud. You are also right that most teams don't have a group of elite DB's that can recover and pull their pud so well.

 

[Seaofred92]

^^^ It was a good play call, and good execution of the play call. It still takes longer than I like given OSU was bringing heat with 7 often, AND pick plays/rub routes get called OPI fairly often. But it was well called and executed by our receivers and DR, which got us within inches of scoring. You are also right that most teams don't have a group of elite DB's that can recover so well.

I think what you’re saying is the route takes longer to develop rather than say the Barney drag route from earlier in the clip sequence, right? Dylan catches and throws in about 1.5 seconds here- if you look at the freeze frame he catches at 10:57 of game clock and the ball is coming out of his hand at 10:56.

Dylan and Satterfield need to just continue to work together to figure out what throws he likes to make against these coverages and then marry that over what our WRs can do well. I think we have all seen at this point we are horrible at throws at/behind the LOS. Should largely cut those out for more glance, drag, arrow, slant, stick routes IMO going forwards. To your point about OPI- we’ve been called for that on a few of these routes this year, notably against Purdoodoo (was that a mesh concept to Rahmir? Can’t remember).

If our pass game execution on these plays and against true man coverage can pick up it’ll help us out a lot.

 

[Seaofred92]

Let's put Mozzee at WR and move boy wonder to TE.

He’s never coached WRs or played WR and it would be his first ever on field coaching role at the collegiate level. How exactly is that an improvement from a coaching standpoint over the current situation?

Jamar was hired for his recruiting connections in KC. Let him run with overseeing that and continue building out his staff to do just that.

 

[tman87]

I think what you’re saying is the route takes longer to develop rather than say the Barney drag route from earlier in the clip sequence, right? Dylan catches and throws in about 1.5 seconds here- if you look at the freeze frame he catches at 10:57 of game clock and the ball is coming out of his hand at 10:56.

Dylan and Satterfield need to just continue to work together to figure out what throws he likes to make against these coverages and then marry that over what our WRs can do well. I think we have all seen at this point we are horrible at throws at/behind the LOS. Should largely cut those out for more glance, drag, arrow, slant, stick routes IMO going forwards. To your point about OPI- we’ve been called for that on a few of these routes this year, notably against Purdoodoo (was that a mesh concept to Rahmir? Can’t remember).

If our pass game execution on these plays and against true man coverage can pick up it’ll help us out a lot.

I don't know if it takes longer than the Barney drag route, but it takes longer than a quick slant to pull my pud. I am merely saying that sometimes you take a quick 5 yard easy completion. Does a lot of things and doesn't rely on mesh/rub routes, much blocking at all, anything complicated really, isn't a pass behind the LOS and keeps the defense on their toes. Simple, quick, clean. Like pulling the pud. It should be a small part of an offensive scheme, even if only called a couple times a game.

We are on the same page. I am basically out on Satterfield - I don't think he has it in him to weave a really good offensive scheme. I don't think he is even averge being honest, but he does some good things and at times calls up some really good plays. Just not nearly often enough, and the whole package that our offense is right now just isn't nearly good enough (especially at 1.4 mil a year). Yes, some of that is on lacking in some players skill level.

But for this season, and while he is still our OC, it sure would be nice to see a better overall scheme and play calling. I would like to be wrong on Satt BTW, as he is still our OC and you never know how long he still will be pulling his pud.

 

[LoudHogRider]

The autocorrect to "pulling the pud" and "pud pulling" has me chuckling at my desk this morning. Makes the already great content ITT even MOAR interesting. Thanks to @tman87 and @Seaofred92 for their hut hut related content - much appreciated.

 

[jickey moseph]

Agreed… I’m just using “slant” as a more general term for “quick breaking/moving route against man coverage” in this instance. Barney is the primary read there on the drag route because of the blitz. If they press him in the slot or play some sort of shell game that Neyor route opens up as a possibility. I’m about to post the Neyor almost TD in the fourth quarter which was a great rub route where Neyor runs a more traditional “slant”

Another thought of mine is... the field would definitely open up more if the offense wasn't afraid to take the deep back shoulder throws to the big receivers when they are matched up in single coverage. Ohio State was just begging DR/Satt/whomever to take those shots and they really only did that first drive to Neyor.

And to me, at least this year, Ohio State's corners haven't played that well. Felt like something Nebraska could have taken advantage of more.

 

[Dear_Leader]

And to me, at least this year, Ohio State's corners haven't played that well.

except for holding. they have been exceptional at holding all year.

 

[huskerj12]

The autocorrect to "pulling the pud" and "pud pulling" has me chuckling at my desk this morning. Makes the already great content ITT even MOAR interesting. Thanks to @tman87 and @Seaofred92 for their hut hut related content - much appreciated.

I'm out of the loop here, what gets autocorrected to that?

 

[Stan Raymond]

Dylan has largely been good so I hope people don’t take me re-posting some of this as “Dylan Sucks” - that isn’t what I’m saying at all (and isn’t what you’re saying either).

I’m more so reposting it because I think people are looking at the final score and saying “the OC stinks!” But when you’re playing with a Freshman QB you have to just know there’s going to be missed opportunities as he grows.

If he hits 2 of the throws in question and we score 31 points people would be on here saying it’s the best game Satterfield has ever called. The reason I want to post this stuff is to show that we’re actually not as “far away” as it may seem from having a pretty good offense despite our glaring deficiencies with perimeter blocking and lack of explosion at both RB and WR.

Between Dylan having another year of experience and what will hopefully be a talent upgrade at the skill positions in the offseason I am hopeful that we make a big jump next year on offense. OL will have a lot to say about that though.

Good stuff, but it's just easier to blame the OC and want him fired.

 

[tman87]

The autocorrect to "pulling the pud" and "pud pulling" has me chuckling at my desk this morning. Makes the already great content ITT even MOAR interesting. Thanks to @tman87 and @Seaofred92 for their hut hut related content - much appreciated.

LMAO, the autocorrect is hilarious! It must have happened this morning as I just noticed it logging back in to this thread.

 

[HCFord1]

I'm out of the loop here, what gets autocorrected to that?

I’m also out of the loop. I legit thought that @HuskerDocCo was up late night making edits again.

 

[Irv]

The autocorrect to "pulling the pud" and "pud pulling" has me chuckling at my desk this morning. Makes the already great content ITT even MOAR interesting. Thanks to @tman87 and @Seaofred92 for their hut hut related content - much appreciated.

Didn't know about the autocorrect.

I was like, "Jesus, @tman87 is beating this 'pud pulling' joke into the fucking ground."

 

[Jim14510]

He’s never coached WRs or played WR and it would be his first ever on field coaching role at the collegiate level. How exactly is that an improvement from a coaching standpoint over the current situation?

Jamar was hired for his recruiting connections in KC. Let him run with overseeing that and continue building out his staff to do just that.

You're assuming I actually put thought into that post.

 

[ChocaEgg]

 

[Tonkasker]

Lot of satt fans circling the wagons this morning in media. I'd like to buy it but I can't