Is Tom Osborne the biggest potato in Nebraska?

[Jim14510]

Depth on the OL wasn't good, but we had some guys that made it to the league. Farmer & Foster were Panini guys, right? What about Farny and Jaimes?

Yes. Jurgens was going to NE regardless of coach so no point in awarding him to either. Farmer and Foster were Bo. Farniok and Jaimes were Riley.

Personally I think Foster was terrible. Farniok was put of position playing right tackle. Would have been nice to put him at guard and someone else at RT. He's a good middle olineman but he was pretty bad at RT. Didn't have anyone better though. Jaimes was pretty solid.

The current oline could end up having an NFL guy or two as well. Teddy glass maybe, Corcoran could end up as a backup olineman. Lutovsky, the druggie. Unlikely Benhart or any of the others turn it around or not but they have 2-3 years to get better.

 

[Nelsonj22]

Most of Rileys oline were Bo's recruits.

Well the guy was here for 2 years, he got jourgens, farniok, Jameis(can't remember if he was bo's or not)

Extrapolate that to 5 years and it's a little different story IMO

Also doesn't change the fact Froat inherited a better OL than he put out in year 5.

 

[MtnHusker]

Hard to say. It's a whole bunch of bad. Riley only had two and a half classes. So if the argument is Bo recruiting fell off at the end that would affect Frost just as much as Riley and arguably more so. Depends where you start the falling off.

Riley's contribution to who played any significant minutes from the 2016/2017 classes. Lamar Jackson, Dismuke, Spielman, Stille, Stoll, Domann, Bootle,, Lindsey (?), Jaimes, Daniels, Austin Allen, Collin Miller, Farniok, Boe Wilson.

The 2015 class was a split of Bo and Riley recruits. Ozigbo, Dedrick Young, Mo Barry, Alex Davis, Antonio Reed were committed after Riley took over.

Eric Lee, Davis Twins, Stanley Morgan, Aaron Williams committed to Bo.

I mean Frost inherited one NFL starter and a couple backups from Riley and a couple of backups from Bo. If that's better than what Riley inherited it isn't by much.

Also keep in mind that Frost basically ran off quite a few of Riley's players Frost has had record attrition with his players and Riley's. How nice would it have been to still have All Pac 12 Linebacker Avery Roberts? Or to have Gebbia or O'Brien as a back up QB for the often injured Martinez instead of Bunch. Some of these players that transferred out or quit would have helped us out as starters or quality depth:
-Avery Roberts
-JD Speilman
-Boe Wilson
-Guy Thomas
-Tyjon Lyndsey
-Cam Jones
-Michael Decker
-Ben Miles (that Fullback that makes Husker fans happy to have on the roster)

Add in his recruits like Wandale Robinson, Noel Vedral, Casey Rogers, Luke McCaffrey, Keem Green, Marcus Fleming....... and we could have had a much deeper and talented roster.

InsideNebraska - How Nebraska's football transfers have fared since leaving Lincoln

Since Scott Frost became Nebraska's 30th head football coach, there have been numerous roster departures from Lincoln.

nebraska.rivals.com

 

[Jim14510]

Well the guy was here for 2 years, he got jourgens, farniok, Jameis(can't remember if he was bo's or not)

Extrapolate that to 5 years and it's a little different story IMO

Also doesn't change the fact Froat inherited a better OL than he put out in year 5.

Meh. Oline has been pretty bad for a while. If his oline in 2018 was better it wasn't by much.

 

[RedSavage]

I'd take Rileys OL over our current OL.

Shit give me fvcking utter back (nvr thought I'd type those words)

I mean, I think we pretty much have that in Hixson

 

[Nelsonj22]

Meh. Oline has been pretty bad for a while. If his oline in 2018 was better it wasn't by much.

It's been bad going back to Bo TBH but that 2018 OL opened some decent holes for Oz in B10 play.

Also quite telling Oz made it to 1000 yards

 

[Jim14510]

Also keep in mind that Frost basically ran off quite a few of Riley's players Frost has had record attrition with his players and Riley's. How nice would it have been to still have All Pac 12 Linebacker Avery Roberts? Or to have Gebbia or O'Brien as a back up QB for the often injured Martinez instead of Bunch. Some of these players that transferred out or quit would have helped us out as starters or quality depth:
-Avery Roberts
-JD Speilman
-Boe Wilson
-Guy Thomas
-Tyjon Lyndsey
-Cam Jones
-Michael Decker
-Ben Miles (that Fullback that makes Husker fans happy to have on the roster)

Add in his recruits like Wandale Robinson, Noel Vedral, Casey Rogers, Luke McCaffrey, Keem Green, Marcus Fleming....... and we could have had a much deeper and talented roster.

InsideNebraska - How Nebraska's football transfers have fared since leaving Lincoln

Since Scott Frost became Nebraska's 30th head football coach, there have been numerous roster departures from Lincoln.

nebraska.rivals.com

I was going to add that too. I had Spielman on there. Avery Roberts is the one Riley guy there's no argument it would have been nice to keep. Outside of Roberts though the rest haven't done much.

Guy Thomas is getting some snaps at Colorado but not sure he'd be playing for NE this year. Probably wouldn't have gone after Mathis as hard if he was here.

Frosts recruits that transferred don't really apply to the convo of what was inherited. Would be nice to have kept some of them though. Rogers in particular.

Decker quit for medical reasons. He'd have been nice to have this year in particular.

 

[Jim14510]

It's been bad going back to Bo TBH but that 2018 OL opened some decent holes for Oz in B10 play.

Also quite telling Oz made it to 1000 yards

Grant has 419 through 3 games.

 

[HCFord1]

The excuses:

"I feel really bad about Scott. He had a lot of things going for him in Central Florida and then maybe he didn't have the best talent when he got here, and then the pandemic, he probably had more bad bounces than good bounces, but he's a good coach and a good person."

Yeah, I mean he's making a couple of excuses for his former player to give him some support publicly. It's not like he's coming out and saying that we shouldn't have fired him.

I just don't know why you're getting all worked up about this completely innocuous statement.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Yeah, I mean he's making a couple of excuses for his former player to give him some support publicly. It's not like he's coming out and saying that we shouldn't have fired him.

I just don't know why you're getting all worked up about this completely innocuous statement.

You can give support without making excuses.

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

You can give support without making excuses.

The number of people that still blindly support TO at this point is not only remarkable, it’s sad as shit. They wouldn’t have made it at Waco

 

[HCFord1]

You can give support without making excuses.

I'm so sorry that 95 year old Tom Osborne didn't support Frost the exact way that you would've liked. It's a shame that this is happening to you.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I'm so sorry that 95 year old Tom Osborne didn't support Frost the exact way that you would've liked. It's a shame that this is happening to you.

I'm not that broken up about it, but that doesn't make TO any less of a tater.

 

[HCFord1]

I'm not that broken up about it, but that doesn't make TO any less of a tater.

You say that, but this thread was a bit dramatic. There's so much stuff that matters related to the program to scrutinize right now, I just don't know why you're worried about the words of an irrelevant figurehead old man.

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

You say that, but this thread was a bit dramatic. There's so much stuff that matters related to the program to scrutinize right now, I just don't know why you're worried about the words of an irrelevant figurehead old man.

What Severe said makes TO like even more like the tater he is. He flat out lied about Frost in his interview with John.

 

[HCFord1]

What Severe said makes TO like even more like the tater he is. He flat out lied about Frost in his interview with John.

What was the flat out lie, Tone?

 

[gtlacey]

To answer your question @ChocaEgg, "no, the coach who brought us 3 national titles and 255 victories is not the biggest potato in Nebraska."

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

What was the flat out lie, Tone?

All of it

 

[Jim14510]

All of it

I'm not even sure what we're talking about at this point. Who lied to who about what?

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

I'm not even sure what we're talking about at this point. Who lied to who about what?

What TO said about Frost’s tenure was all bullshit. The taters ate it up