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He will get 10-15 snaps.
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He will get 10-15 snaps.
Other than throwing a football, I'm struggling to think of what HH would do better than those two. And we already found another guy better at throwing the football than HH.Just trying to give you the coaches perspective here...
You don't think there's anything that HH can do better on the football field than those two? Not one thing?
If true then it will last as long as it takes him to commit his first fumble on the goal line. Which if we are lucky is game 1.10-15 snaps per game. Short yardage/goalline package probably will get 5 or so, H-back/TE/RB probably will get 5 or so. Up or down based on situations.
Don't believe it to be misdirection unless we are practicing misdirection as well.
You mean, like thinking and shit?I think if Haarberg goes in at the 5 yard line knowing his job is to take a snap, secure the ball and use 10 blockers to move forward - we’ll see the most effective version of Haarberg possible.
Last year when his job was to read the defense, make decisions, find a tight window to potentially throw to or pull the ball down and run - it wasn’t in his wheelhouse.
Until we see Fidone drop back, I don't think we can make that assumption.Other than throwing a football, I'm struggling to think of what HH would do better than those two. And we already found another guy better at throwing the football than HH.
Yeah, let’s just take the thinking and throwing shit out of the equation and give it a tryYou mean, like thinking and shit?
More like for Lindenmeyer IMO.I don’t get the HH stuff. So you’d rather have Fidone or Bonner on the sideline holding the clipboard?
This is where i'm at. He doesn't need to do 200 plays, he needs to have 20 he can do with one read and go (if he's QB). He provides some value at other spots over a guy like Fidone at H-back.I think if Haarberg goes in at the 5 yard line knowing his job is to take a snap, secure the ball and use 10 blockers to move forward - we’ll see the most effective version of Haarberg possible.
Last year when his job was to read the defense, make decisions, find a tight window to potentially throw to or pull the ball down and run - it wasn’t in his wheelhouse.
He can move side to side and block better than Fidone, especially from the H-back spot. It's why first game of 2023 we subbed guys in like.... wait for it..... Haarberg for Fidone. He also can throw better than Fidone.Other than throwing a football, I'm struggling to think of what HH would do better than those two. And we already found another guy better at throwing the football than HH.
Or, OR, he doesn't fumble and scores on those goal line carries. I'm apparently alone on this but I like that idea better. Even if it means he does it again in game 2.If true then it will last as long as it takes him to commit his first fumble on the goal line. Which if we are lucky is game 1.
True. Or he does what he did first play he was in at H-back in 2023 for us and moves the chains and gets more snaps doing that. It works both ways.If true then it will last as long as it takes him to commit his first fumble on the goal line. Which if we are lucky is game 1.
This has been my thoughts exactly. People have dramatically oversold the concept that Haarberg can only run in a straight with a hole in front of him. Is he Dennard Robinson? Not even close. But his running abilities are closer to Taylor Martinez. Things will be as simple as possible when/if he is ever in at QB. He won't be making reads AND he likely will have the benefit of the radio in his helmet in that situation too, so Satt will be able to help remind him of his role.I think if Haarberg goes in at the 5 yard line knowing his job is to take a snap, secure the ball and use 10 blockers to move forward - we’ll see the most effective version of Haarberg possible.
Last year when his job was to read the defense, make decisions, find a tight window to potentially throw to or pull the ball down and run - it wasn’t in his wheelhouse.
This is where I am. This time last year, people on here were clamoring for him to be used exactly that way. He's too good of an athlete not to find something to use him for.I'm really not understanding the hate for HH in this thread. Do I want him as our QB? No. Raiola needs to stay healthy. Situationally does he have a place on the field for 10-15 snaps? Absolutely.
What if we have him in with Fidone and he's in the H-back or slot, we run a tunnel screen to Barney or Banks? Then we have plays built off of that where he's running free outside where he has to outrun an OLB that he is more than capable of?
Yes. Our #2 QB can throw better than our top TE.He can move side to side and block better than Fidone, especially from the H-back spot. It's why first game of 2023 we subbed guys in like.... wait for it..... Haarberg for Fidone. He also can throw better than Fidone.
Still not taking Fidone off the field much because I expect an all-conference year out of him, but there are definitely things HH can do better than pretty much anyone you would list offensively dependent on situation. I believe that's why our coaches are adamant to get him on the field.
Bonner had 130+ snaps last year. So, somewhere between 10-15 a game.10-15 snaps a game?
Or do you mean this year?
I think all this HH stuff is just misdirection. Last year they claimed the same type of thing about Bonner. Coaches put stuff out there to confuse and misdirect opponents to screw up their preparation. Two or three years ago it was Rahmir Johnson will catch 80 passes out of the backfield.
He won’t be taking snaps at the 20 on 3rd and 8.We were in the 100s in red zone conversion and red zone scoring with harberg last year. The I want him no where near the end zone
HH is not an actual runner. He showed zero ability to be an effective ballcarrier unless he was wide wide wide open.As i've been telling people all along, we have a running QB package for goalline, short yardage, and in case we need to get Raiola off the field for a play or series. We also have some packages of him at H-back/TE where he and Raiola are on the field at the same time.
He will get 10-15 snaps.
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