Art Bell’s vault. West of the Rockies you’re on the air.

[Jim14510]

That's interesting. I always considered carbon dating an estimate, at least that's the way we were taught it in middle school.

Yeah I've never put too much thought into carbon dating and whether something is a million years old or 100 million is pretty irrelevant to me. This guy had creation down to like 1,000 years and dinosaurs lived and became extinct in a matter of a 100 years or so. I don't remember the specifics but it was wild.

 

[Jim14510]

Yeah, I grew up in a Methodist church but my extended family is Lutheran. Grandparents were pretty religious (my great grandmother thought Harry Potter books were a conduit to the devil) but never "the earth is 5,000 years old" religious.

That's like 1800's type mentality. Maybe early 1900's.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

That's interesting. I always considered carbon dating an estimate, at least that's the way we were taught it in middle school.

That was how I heard it presented growing up as well. On the surface it sounds logical, but the method was essentially shown to be wildly inaccurate anywhere there was hard evidence (famous story is a guy who had a chicken & had its bones carbon dated about a month after it died, and came back as 10,000 years old). Rather than admitting it wasn't up to scientific rigor, they added a bunch of caveats that explain away recent results, and still presume ancient results are more accurate.

 

[Alcaus]

That was how I heard it presented growing up as well. On the surface it sounds logical, but the method was essentially shown to be wildly inaccurate anywhere there was hard evidence (famous story is a guy who had a chicken & had its bones carbon dated about a month after it died, and came back as 10,000 years old). Rather than admitting it wasn't up to scientific rigor, they added a bunch of caveats that explain away recent results, and still presume ancient results are more accurate.

That kind of stuff just blows my mind, especially if it's common. That kind of ideological capture isn't good for anyone in any field.

 

[Milo-of-Croton]

Several stories I would call 'supernatural' more than 'paranormal'. Not hauntings, just eerie.

7 or 8 years old, friend and I rode our bikes out to the river to fish. That was back in the early 1970's when you could do those sorts of things. Anyway, the river bed was mostly sand so you had to walk a ways to get to the river. My friend caught a Gar, neither of knew what it was. My friend was going to pull the hook out of it's mouth and a grandma looking woman - hair in a bun, dress - says "No boys! Don't stick your hand in there!"

We literally thought nothing of it and just looked at each other. My friend pulled out his knife to cut the line and I looked around - there was nobody else around and to reach the shore the old woman would have to have walked approximately 30 yards across the sandy river bed. I have never seen a picture of a long dead relative or anything that resembled her, so maybe it was one of his grandparents or something? He moved shortly after that, have not seen him since.

I was 12 when my brother was killed in a car wreck. He was my hero - a really good big brother aged 18. Good athlete. Anyway...I guess I couldn't comprehend what was going and was scared shitless. I would play an old beat up AM radio at night for music and would awaken to news stories about cattle mutilations in rural Nebraska. I didn't sleep much. I would wander downstairs and try sleeping on the couch. I don't have a good memory of how many days passed, thinking a week but not certain. I remember one night there was a brilliant light shining from the doorway and I couldn't make out his face, but it was my brother. "I'm alright. Everything is OK." Is all he said. I was able to sleep after that.

I was just out of high school a couple of years when my dad to have surgery for prostate cancer. I drove him and my mom to the hospital and I was pretty concerned. I didn't know anything about prostate cancer. I went into the chapel and prayed that if the outcome was bad, that I would have the strength to help mom, etc. I was pretty upset and heard a voice say "he will be alright". Not a booming like voice, more inside my head. My dad was OK.

Story about my recovery from alcoholism. I had been drunk for several days, had a gun in my hand. I felt hopeless, no idea what was going to happen to me, etc. I raised the gun to my head and said a prayer, "Help me God." At that moment, I had a feeling of peace come over me, my thoughts cleared and I knew exactly who to call. My compulsion to drink was gone. God willing, I will celebrate 35 years sober in a few months. Completely different life.

In Las Vegas with my wife, she had a work conference down there so I took some time off and tagged along. This was about 15 years ago. I really wanted to go to an AA meeting in Vegas just to see what it was like. The meeting was at the Riviera, which I don't think is there anymore. Anyway, I was running late so I jump on the tram praying that not only would I be on time, but that I could even find it. I walked to the back of the Riviera and there were 20-25 people at desks, information. I look at them, and one lady was the only person standing, she made eye contact with me and gave me a big smile so I walk over to her. I tell her she will probably think I'm crazy but I am looking for the AA meeting. "I'm a friend of Bill's. I know exactly where it's at."

So I go to the hotel in back, find the right building and ride the elevator up to the 4th floor, I believe it was. I get out of the elevator and all the rooms look the same. A man walks around the corner, looks at me and continues to the bathroom to my right a few doors. I am still wandering around when he comes back out and he asks if he can help me. I tell him again I'm looking for the AA meeting. He said, "I'm chairing the meeting. Follow me."

Maybe dumb luck, coincidence...not hauntings, but each of these things happened to me and makes me believe there is more going on than we know. I am a firm believer in God, this stuff confirms it for me.

 

[herbsinator]

Several stories I would call 'supernatural' more than 'paranormal'. Not hauntings, just eerie.

7 or 8 years old, friend and I rode our bikes out to the river to fish. That was back in the early 1970's when you could do those sorts of things. Anyway, the river bed was mostly sand so you had to walk a ways to get to the river. My friend caught a Gar, neither of knew what it was. My friend was going to pull the hook out of it's mouth and a grandma looking woman - hair in a bun, dress - says "No boys! Don't stick your hand in there!"

We literally thought nothing of it and just looked at each other. My friend pulled out his knife to cut the line and I looked around - there was nobody else around and to reach the shore the old woman would have to have walked approximately 30 yards across the sandy river bed. I have never seen a picture of a long dead relative or anything that resembled her, so maybe it was one of his grandparents or something? He moved shortly after that, have not seen him since.

I was 12 when my brother was killed in a car wreck. He was my hero - a really good big brother aged 18. Good athlete. Anyway...I guess I couldn't comprehend what was going and was scared shitless. I would play an old beat up AM radio at night for music and would awaken to news stories about cattle mutilations in rural Nebraska. I didn't sleep much. I would wander downstairs and try sleeping on the couch. I don't have a good memory of how many days passed, thinking a week but not certain. I remember one night there was a brilliant light shining from the doorway and I couldn't make out his face, but it was my brother. "I'm alright. Everything is OK." Is all he said. I was able to sleep after that.

I was just out of high school a couple of years when my dad to have surgery for prostate cancer. I drove him and my mom to the hospital and I was pretty concerned. I didn't know anything about prostate cancer. I went into the chapel and prayed that if the outcome was bad, that I would have the strength to help mom, etc. I was pretty upset and heard a voice say "he will be alright". Not a booming like voice, more inside my head. My dad was OK.

Story about my recovery from alcoholism. I had been drunk for several days, had a gun in my hand. I felt hopeless, no idea what was going to happen to me, etc. I raised the gun to my head and said a prayer, "Help me God." At that moment, I had a feeling of peace come over me, my thoughts cleared and I knew exactly who to call. My compulsion to drink was gone. God willing, I will celebrate 35 years sober in a few months. Completely different life.

In Las Vegas with my wife, she had a work conference down there so I took some time off and tagged along. This was about 15 years ago. I really wanted to go to an AA meeting in Vegas just to see what it was like. The meeting was at the Riviera, which I don't think is there anymore. Anyway, I was running late so I jump on the tram praying that not only would I be on time, but that I could even find it. I walked to the back of the Riviera and there were 20-25 people at desks, information. I look at them, and one lady was the only person standing, she made eye contact with me and gave me a big smile so I walk over to her. I tell her she will probably think I'm crazy but I am looking for the AA meeting. "I'm a friend of Bill's. I know exactly where it's at."

So I go to the hotel in back, find the right building and ride the elevator up to the 4th floor, I believe it was. I get out of the elevator and all the rooms look the same. A man walks around the corner, looks at me and continues to the bathroom to my right a few doors. I am still wandering around when he comes back out and he asks if he can help me. I tell him again I'm looking for the AA meeting. He said, "I'm chairing the meeting. Follow me."

Maybe dumb luck, coincidence...not hauntings, but each of these things happened to me and makes me believe there is more going on than we know. I am a firm believer in God, this stuff confirms it for me.

I don’t understand the fish one? Like some lady just yelled at you?

 

[Jim14510]

I don’t understand the fish one? Like some lady just yelled at you?

There was no woman really.

 

[herbsinator]

There was no woman really.

50/50 either there was or there wasn’t

 

[ChocaEgg]

Funny, I've been to church and youth group stuff as a kid. I've never heard dinosaurs discussed.

Honestly, I think discovering an advanced alien species would create even more religiosity.

That's probably why you've never heard dinosaurs discussed 😉

 

[Alcaus]

That's probably why you've never heard dinosaurs discussed 😉

More dinosaur talk might’ve increased retention rates

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

More dinosaur talk might’ve increased retention rates

Dinosaur talk is awesome, more people should read the book of Job.

 

[ChocaEgg]

👀

 

[Goskers07]

👀

I can see it now. Him, standing out in his front yard, stating at the sky, screaming "where are yoooooouuuu?!"

 

[ChocaEgg]

I can see it now. Him, standing out in his front yard, stating at the sky, screaming "where are yoooooouuuu?!"

All jokes aside, he is/was involved with

About To The Stars*

To The Stars is an award-winning, vertically-integrated entertainment company that creates original content informed by our experiences working with prestigious government agencies and academic institutions; told across film, television, publishing and merchandise...

tothestars.media

 

[BoBigRed7]

Same here. I 100% believe those things can let evil in.

I never did play one as a kid cause I believed in that same thing. But as I’ve gotten older I feel its so much more of a mental thing, your going to see of hear things you want to hear as in when I’m deer hunting and sitting completely still in my stand of on the ground. My ears start hearing things like I think they are footsteps but it’s nothing. I do believe their is dimensional crossovers tho so thats maybe what that stuff is, also a big believer in Karma. Im kinda drunk and none of this probably makes any sense, but I’d like to see something that blows my mind other than taking 7 grams of boomers.

 

[vailhusker]

👀

He's really into UFO/UAPs. He even put a group together called "To The Stars" with guys like -

LUIS "LUE" ELIZONDO​

Luis “Lue” Elizondo is the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secretive Pentagon unit that studied UFOs. As a senior counterintelligence officer for the Department of Defense, he operated throughout Afghanistan, the Middle East and Latin America. He’s a trained Special Agent who has led countless tactical and strategic missions both during wartime and times of peace. He also conducted sensitive source operations against some of America’s toughest adversaries. Lue is the team’s lead field investigator, continuing in the civilian world the work he did inside the Pentagon’s AATIP program.

STEVE JUSTICE​

Steve Justice is one of the most respected aviation experts in the U.S. As the former director of Advanced Systems Development at Lockheed Martin’s mysterious Skunk Works division, he led research and development of classified programs for the U.S. military. Most of his career accomplishments are still unacknowledged. He leads the team’s effort to understand the advanced technology that is powering the unidentified aircraft.

CHRIS MELLON​

A descendant of the founder of the Mellon Bank, Chris Mellon served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence during the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. For over a dozen years, Chris worked on national security issues on Capitol Hill, including many years on the Senate Intelligence Committee, where he ultimately served as the Minority Staff Director. Chris is the team’s government liaison, using his access and relationships with high-level officials to prompt the government to take action on what he believes is a serious threat to national security.


They had a show on the History Channel a couple of years ago -

Tom DeLonge - Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation Cast | HISTORY Channel

Tom DeLonge stars in The HISTORY Channel's series Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation. Find out more about Tom DeLonge and the rest of the cast on The HISTORY Channel.

www.history.com

 

[Cash68847]

He's really into UFO/UAPs. He even put a team together called "To The Stars" with guys like -

LUIS "LUE" ELIZONDO​

Luis “Lue” Elizondo is the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secretive Pentagon unit that studied UFOs. As a senior counterintelligence officer for the Department of Defense, he operated throughout Afghanistan, the Middle East and Latin America. He’s a trained Special Agent who has led countless tactical and strategic missions both during wartime and times of peace. He also conducted sensitive source operations against some of America’s toughest adversaries. Lue is the team’s lead field investigator, continuing in the civilian world the work he did inside the Pentagon’s AATIP program.

STEVE JUSTICE​

Steve Justice is one of the most respected aviation experts in the U.S. As the former director of Advanced Systems Development at Lockheed Martin’s mysterious Skunk Works division, he led research and development of classified programs for the U.S. military. Most of his career accomplishments are still unacknowledged. He leads the team’s effort to understand the advanced technology that is powering the unidentified aircraft.

CHRIS MELLON​

A descendant of the founder of the Mellon Bank, Chris Mellon served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence during the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. For over a dozen years, Chris worked on national security issues on Capitol Hill, including many years on the Senate Intelligence Committee, where he ultimately served as the Minority Staff Director. Chris is the team’s government liaison, using his access and relationships with high-level officials to prompt the government to take action on what he believes is a serious threat to national security.


They had a show on the History Channel a couple of years ago -

Tom DeLonge - Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation Cast | HISTORY Channel

Tom DeLonge stars in The HISTORY Channel's series Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation. Find out more about Tom DeLonge and the rest of the cast on The HISTORY Channel.

www.history.com

Tom DeLonge is very serious about the ufo stuff. He has been good for the subject.

 

[ChocaEgg]

 

[vailhusker]

Tom DeLonge is very serious about the ufo stuff. He has been good for the subject.

Oh, I know I used to watch his show on History and was disappointed when it was cancelled or whatever happened. They were on the cutting edge of what was going on with UFO/UAPs at the time and I really enjoyed listening to the experts he had on his team and the witnesses they brought on the show.

 

[Alcaus]

All jokes aside, he is/was involved with

About To The Stars*

To The Stars is an award-winning, vertically-integrated entertainment company that creates original content informed by our experiences working with prestigious government agencies and academic institutions; told across film, television, publishing and merchandise...

tothestars.media

Did they ever do anything?

I remember watching his announcement video. Dude believes.