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End of Hoiberg era mirroring end of Miles era
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This is where I'm at. Matty A was a cancer to the program. But...some of that blame has to go on Hoiberg as he saw fit to tie his entire program to Matty A running it.
The program has been cleansed though so we are all good now. This program is exactly all I would ever want from Nebrasketball. Even if we somehow got boned out of the NCAA tourney this yr.....I'm happy with the program.
This is all I'm asking for with Nebraska basketball:
- NCAA tourney 2 out of every 5 yrs
- Competitive games in JAN-FEB
- Good home record
- A couple marquee (upset) wins each yr
- Don't embarrass us off the court (Matty A shit)
I'll gladly eat crow after the last couple of my posts in this thread. Granted it was after the Rutgers game where we played charmin soft and it looked like Gary was out for the year. This team has toughen up since and played more physical which has led to better defense. That started with Allick playing more physical after Gary went down. Then getting Gary back and his energy is infectious and has led to better player. Also, can't forget Sam Hoiberg and the scrappiness he provides.
Add to it dudes being dudes. Brice Williams was one heck of a find in the portal.
If I'm the Head Coach at Charlotte, I'm cussing the NCAA and NIL landscape right now. The 49ers won 23 games and the CBI last season. They still have a decent team this season at 17-10, but its going to be difficult to earn a tourney bid for them unless they win the CUSA tournament. The not only lost Brice Williams to transfer, but this freaky shooter also took a payday over to BYU:
Charlotte has lost 7 games by 5 points or less this season. If Brice Williams and Khalifa were still on their roster, they would probably have 24 or 25 wins by now and be a lock for the NCAA tournament.
For sure. Get Gary, Mast, Williams, Lawrence, Hoiberg, and Wilcher back next year mixed with a couple transfers and Fred will be cooking. Almost forgot about Rice.
This loss felt similar to the game I called "ball game" on the Miles era: the non-con loss to Texas Tech (70-52 in KC). Cliffs notes version: NU hoops starting to gain hype, started 4-0, beat all 4 teams by 20 or more. TTU was starting to look good but was still unknown at the time. They did end up a #3 seed in the tourney but were unranked at this point. Cliffs: Nebraska had a 2nd half collapse, letting TTU do anything they wanted in last 10 min, and were lucky to only lose by 18.
95% of NU fans laughed it off as just one game. But I immediately said "this team is in deep trouble." NU went on to an absolutely pathetic 6-14 in the B1G that year and Miles was fired.
So I'm calling my shot now. This Minnesota loss is the end of the Hoiberg era. This team has zero heart, zero emotion and is not good enough when faced with decent opposition. My biggest surprise of that 2018-2019 season was how little the team fought for Miles when they knew he was coaching for his job. This squad is starting to look like that squad.
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — With two seconds left on the shot clock, Tim Miles called out a defense for an out-of-bounds play. He crossed his arms in an X. Thenorfolkdailynews.com
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Bump, it's a better read this year. Lots more to do this season. Still a fun read.
I kind of reached an epiphany today while reading old "fire Hoiberg" threads.
Nebraska has a lot of message board fans who want to portray themselves as "high expectations snobs." These individuals act like they demand excellence from Husker athletics and anyone who doesn't hold Nebraska to that same standard is not holding the program accountable. And these people actually believe their standards are unwavering.
I don't know if this is driven by insecurities in their real lives, or if it's just a fake stance to make yourself look better on social media. But I suspect none of these individuals are actually succeeding in life at the same level in which they demand performance at Nebraska.
I always maintained that Hoiberg didn't deserve any real scrutiny until season four with Nebraska. No coach in America could've taken over a high major team with 1 terrible scholarship player and then been immediately successfull. The pandemic came along send those stupid rules basically sabotaged the next 18 months of rebuild.
The high expectations snobs won't even entertain those considerations.
Nebraska has a lot of message board fans who want to portray themselves as "high expectations snobs." These individuals act like they demand excellence from Husker athletics and anyone who doesn't hold Nebraska to that same standard is not holding the program accountable. And these people actually believe their standards are unwavering.
I don't know if this is driven by insecurities in their real lives, or if it's just a fake stance to make yourself look better on social media. But I suspect none of these individuals are actually succeeding in life at the same level in which they demand performance at Nebraska.
I always maintained that Hoiberg didn't deserve any real scrutiny until season four with Nebraska. No coach in America could've taken over a high major team with 1 terrible scholarship player and then been immediately successfull. The pandemic came along send those stupid rules basically sabotaged the next 18 months of rebuild.
The high expectations snobs won't even entertain those considerations.
Hoiberg's first season before they ever played a game, I ran into him at the Lincoln Airport. It was a slow day and it was just him and I sitting there so I tried to make small talk as best as I could. I welcomed him to the area and talked about the weather and eventually gave him the small talk question of all questions. "How's the team looking so far?" I'll never forget his response. I figured he'd tell me how much work they had been putting in and how much better they are looking and that we are going to try to make a go at some things, etc. Instead, he literally grimaced a bit and said something to the effect of, "It's going to be a long season." I will never forget thinking about how bad the talent at the time must have been for a coach of his caliber to feel that dejected before the season even starts. I went to the opening ceremony night thing a few weeks later and there was so much hype and Delano came out with that flag around his shoulders and I thought, "Well, it looks like they are having a blast and showcasing all the best dunks and flying around the court, maybe Hoiberg has figured some things out and it's going to be ok." Then we played the season. Since then I have asked every high school or youth coach I find myself in conversations with how they think the team is looking just to see the different responses trying to pinpoint what went through Hoiberg's head that day in the airport. What is funny is you can pretty much tell by that answer when compared against the season's result which coaches are good and which ones are bad. The coaches that have a bad team but are like, "I think we are looking pretty good this year," and then go out and have a 3-22 season are legitimately out of their element. The coaches that say, "Going to be a developmental year," or something similar are much more likely to have an accurate read on what that team actually is and what they will be capable of. In hindsight, has me super worried about Rhule but that is for different thread. Glad Hoiberg is ours; he's a man among men.
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This loss felt similar to the game I called "ball game" on the Miles era: the non-con loss to Texas Tech (70-52 in KC). Cliffs notes version: NU hoops starting to gain hype, started 4-0, beat all 4 teams by 20 or more. TTU was starting to look good but was still unknown at the time. They did end up a #3 seed in the tourney but were unranked at this point. Cliffs: Nebraska had a 2nd half collapse, letting TTU do anything they wanted in last 10 min, and were lucky to only lose by 18.
95% of NU fans laughed it off as just one game. But I immediately said "this team is in deep trouble." NU went on to an absolutely pathetic 6-14 in the B1G that year and Miles was fired.
So I'm calling my shot now. This Minnesota loss is the end of the Hoiberg era. This team has zero heart, zero emotion and is not good enough when faced with decent opposition. My biggest surprise of that 2018-2019 season was how little the team fought for Miles when they knew he was coaching for his job. This squad is starting to look like that squad.
Texas Tech defense stifles Nebraska in classic championship
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — With two seconds left on the shot clock, Tim Miles called out a defense for an out-of-bounds play. He crossed his arms in an X. The
I’m trying to remember if I contributed to this thread. I’m pretty sure I didn’t and that feels good. GBR.
Now if Rhule turns it around I’m gonna look like a dumbass.
Now if Rhule turns it around I’m gonna look like a dumbass.
This has been my takeaway regarding those posters for at least a year. Similar profile to the person who responds that they’re “just a realist” when told their a perpetual pessimist.
The “high expectations snobs” also truly believe their “high expectations” makes them some sort of super fan and they’re better than you.
And one of their favorite phrases lately is “we’re not a serious program if we don’t…….”
100% agree.
You'd think every one of these "they're better than you" types had reached the pinnacle in life. There can only be one Elon Musk. Except Nebrasketball has several high expectation multi-billionaires that are battling other multi-billionaires for high expectation status.
Tbf though, the creator of this thread doesn’t fit all this shit bashing persona. @HerbRedman almost always comes with level headed, well thought out, and well articulated takes and comments.
I’m sure he’s the first to put his hand up and gladly say he was wrong on this one.
I 100% agree with the idea @HerbRedman does not. I apologize if my post led anyone to believe that as I believe Herb is a very good poster
Yep. Lots of linear thinking with "those that have high expectations".
This is also true.
There are a handful or two that seem to think everyone else is ignorant because they don't have "high expectations". You see it often in the football threads.
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