Wisconsin Game Week

[dom91932]

I’m sorry, but if he was unavailable he shouldn’t have been in uniform. That’s the way to eliminate any amount of “shock.”

Shocked? This is a family with P5 experience with DONU, Cockeye State and FSU. Plus NFL experience. Not only was he suited up, he apparently practiced all week. Even before you get to all that, he's the 3rd string QB on a team where #1 and #2 have been injured and incompetent. It's not a stretch to say they should be shocked he hadn't played sooner. As @HCFord1 said earlier, they could've been shocked he actually played.

 

[Pipe Line]

I'm blame Geoff Collins. #1...his name is Geoff spelled with a G. #2 I'm sure he gave Rhule and Satt assurances of the kids potential. Fucking Asshole.

But in the end, they still took him...not knowing he's not cut out for it mentally.

In the Spring I thought Sims would be fine. I legitimately believed that. I watched the dude throw at practice. He could spin it. They ran several RPOs where he fit the ball in on the Glance routes. He threw their play action game well. I thought, okay, they're going to be very similar to Baylor. A lot of run game, paired with easy RPOs, play action, pretty simple drop back menu. They can be efficient, move the ball, and take some chances with PAP game. If the offense looked like the 2019 Baylor Team, 22nd in total offense, 65th in rushing, 25th in passing, 18th in TOP...I think everyone would be pretty happy with it.

But when the bullets fly...he can't do it...and that's reflective in what they're running. I haven't seen an RPO with a glance route since week 1 or 2. Even when we were hammering counter, and a $ is flying down into the fit...perfect opportunity to use it...we don't. There's just no confidence there...there can't be. The fumble Sims had, was on a Counter RPO, reading the apex LB with a TB flare screen...he literally, ran the wrong way.

I've been heavily critical of the offense. There are things they do okay. There are some horrendous calls IMO, mainly because I don't think if you know they can't execute it...don't run it. At some point, it's either the players aren't executing, or the coaches aren't doing well enough to get them to execute. I don't know where they are in that line...probably both.

Some rambling thoughts of mine in response to that


Spring Game, though Sims looked good, would be just fine with another summer to develop, learn the playbook, 7 on 7 chemistry building, etc. Thought he would basically be Adrian 2.0 with a more prepared HC and OC.

I don't know enough about X's and O's and game planning and flow to play calling and scheme to know really exactly what they're attempting to do with each play, and where it's supposed to go. Afterwards, I can make sense of it. But, Satterfield's play calling just doesn't really make sense to me based on flow in real time. I understand you have to keep defenses on their toes, and attack their weaknesses, and things are set up for other things, but I just don't see that with Satt. But again, I don't know enough.

I don't think Jeff Sims is really just smart enough to really get it. To really understand the coaching, to understand nuances of offense, to understand how to set things up. I think he's just super athletic and great at backyard football. Like a poor man's Johnny Football basically.

I think Rhule was joking some, but not joking some, when he said he wasn't sure if Heinrich had been in meetings for basically a year. I don't think it's far fetched to say that he probably didn't do much during his freshman year either while Adrian was still here. Not to make excuses, just stating facts, but this very well may be Heinrich's first real season in college with competent coaching and attention paid to him to develop him. The QB coach that was at Kearney Catholic while Heinrich was there, my wife is very close to his wife, and we've both known the family a long time. Me and her were talking about it after Michigan, I believe, and I'm pretty sure, excluding this season, that his senior season with that QB coach in Kearney was the last legitimate season where Heinrich probably got consistent QB/Offensive coaching.

A. I don't know if Satt has the capability to really develop QBs in season B. I don't know if he has the desire to want to really develop QBs in season. to B. it might be a thing he wants to do that in the offseason, if he does. Either one, unacceptable in my opinion.


I think Heinrich is probably good enough to be that 8-4 guy we need, but needs a year or two of development with a legitimate staff to make that happen. I think Rhule is that HC, I don't think Satt is that OC, that matches Heinrich. I think Heinrich is smart enough, but needs time. But, he doesn't have time. If he was in Danny Kaelin's shoes right now, think that would help him tremendously.


Banking on Jeff Sim's was a complete failure by this staff. That one is coaching. I think everyone has seen plenty of @Faux Sean Callahan posts about Satt's offense over the years, and yeah putting Sims and Heinrich is certain spots this season has been coaching errors. I also think legitimate Power 5 QBs can execute this offense at a much higher rate though and could make Satt look better.


I put this season, on offense, with coach/player mistakes at 60/40 players. I believe Rhule is worlds better than Frost HC wise, and Rhule in Year 1 has to work with what he's got. If similar struggles happen next year or year 3, the conversation changes. Big piece is what does Rhule do at QB this offseason. I think if he doesn't bring in a "guarantee" at QB through the portal, then it is fair to start to doubt Rhule's success as HC here.


I do, however, think Heinrich needs one more offseason of serious development before having certain conversations with him.

 

[Carm]

Being a QB at such a high level (P5) of the sport doesn't really require that you are smarter than other QBs. What it really requires is that you are able to effectively make decisions super quickly. Maybe someone else is smarter and actually makes a better decision if he has 5-6 seconds to do it. But you have to be the guy who can be effective making decisions in a couple of seconds.

We've learned Sims just isn't that guy. Jury is still out of HH, but my guess is he won't be allowed to get better at it on the job next year.

 

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[RedSavage]

How can this be if Purdy is hurty

 

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[ChocaEgg]

"Good staffs adjust according to the personnel you have"

 

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[Mr.Bojangles]

We are going to beat WI. Just feel it.

Wish I had that feeling.

 

[SlumpBuster]

I think Heinrich is probably good enough to be that 8-4 guy we need, but needs a year or two of development with a legitimate staff to make that happen.

I think we've already seen the ceiling of Heinrich. He has no ability to do anything to press a defense other than run and even that has limited use.

 

[Irv]

I think we've already seen the ceiling of Heinrich. He has no ability to do anything to press a defense other than run and even that has limited use.

Everything possible was going his way those first few games, in terms of the opponents and his misfires not resulting in turnovers. What has happened more recently is more representative of who he is as a qb.

Nobody wanted him to the guy, but circumstances conspired to make it happen. We need to make sure those circumstances don't ever happen again.

 

[Pipe Line]

I think we've already seen the ceiling of Heinrich. He has no ability to do anything to press a defense other than run and even that has limited use.

I think his passing game could improve if he had time in his career to be a legit back up and develop and grow in to the starting role. But, he doesn't have that time anymore. Unfortunately, Frost wasted that time for him.

 

[SlumpBuster]

I think his passing game could improve if he had time in his career to be a legit back up and develop and grow in to the starting role. But, he doesn't have that time anymore. Unfortunately, Frost wasted that time for him.

I think that's incredibly unlikely but I suppose it is possible.

If what we hear about Whipple is true and that nobody else saw reps or was even prepared in any way, that's incredible.

It always seems like we end up hearing about coaches who only coach the 1s and that is just incredible to me. That is so absurdly short sighted.

 

[Pipe Line]

I think that's incredibly unlikely but I suppose it is possible.

If what we hear about Whipple is true and that nobody else saw reps or was even prepared in any way, that's incredible.

It always seems like we end up hearing about coaches who only coach the 1s and that is just incredible to me. That is so absurdly short sighted.

I don't think Whip actually thought he'd be here longer a year/I don't think Whipple wanted to be here longer than a year. Purely my own guess but I think it was a thing where Casey and Whip wanted to go Pitt 2.0 and catch lighting in a bottle again, send Casey off to the NFL and Whip and Nebraska "mutually agree to part ways so Whip can spend time with his family", Frost gets a new contract and figures out his next move with assistants in a more stable environment.


I think Chubba went through normal recruiting as the Pickett 2.0 in waiting in hopes that Whip would stick around.


Frost and Whip needed one year together to hold it all together and went in on Casey to make that happen to get Frost a new contract. Let's be honest, Purdy looked horrific last year when he was in there.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

I don't think Whip actually thought he'd be here longer a year/I don't think Whipple wanted to be here longer than a year. Purely my own guess but I think it was a thing where Casey and Whip wanted to go Pitt 2.0 and catch lighting in a bottle again, send Casey off to the NFL and Whip and Nebraska "mutually agree to part ways so Whip can spend time with his family", Frost gets a new contract and figures out his next move with assistants in a more stable environment.


I think Chubba went through normal recruiting as the Pickett 2.0 in waiting in hopes that Whip would stick around.


Frost and Whip needed one year together to hold it all together and went in on Casey to make that happen to get Frost a new contract. Let's be honest, Purdy looked horrific last year when he was in there.

completely agree with that, and honestly if not for Chinander it might have worked. Busch had the defense improved enough (and this year shows that a lot of the needed talent was there)

If Busch was DC the whole year we start 5-1 and Frost probably sticks around another year

 

[Pipe Line]

completely agree with that, and honestly if not for Chinander it might have worked. Busch had the defense improved enough (and this year shows that a lot of the needed talent was there)

If Busch was DC the whole year we start 5-1 and Frost probably sticks around another year

Well if Frost is never let go, then Chins is never let go, so no either way it was fucked.

Busch is never DC with Frost here

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Well if Frost is never let go, then Chins is never let go, so no either way it was fucked.

Busch is never DC with Frost here

I was thinking of a hypothetical world where Frost wasn't a complete fucktard

we should probably be glad Chins was as terrible as he was. his stupidity probably saved us a decade of purgatory where Frost did just enough to not get fired

 

[Seaofred92]