Season turning from success to failure

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

So our fan base either thinks we don’t run the ball enough or are too old school.

They don’t know what they think. It changes weekly lol

 

[Goskers07]

We absolutely won't be preseason ranked next year because it is obvious that we suck. Even Frost got us to the point of being ranked, that is my point. It wasn't all doom and gloom with him and the revisionist history of everyone acting like they knew he sucked right away is bullshit.

Saying that was Frost getting us to be ranked is a direct contradiction of your own points. Yes, we were ranked. It wasn't due to Frosts performance that year. It was due to Nebraskas history and Frost being the hottest (no homo) coach in the country at the time coming off the UCF success. Rhule isn't going to get that grace, which is fine, but to say it's his fault for that is stupid. Ironically, it would be more Frosts fault for that.

And I don't know where you keep pulling this revisionist history stuff from. At no point has anyone tried to say there wasn't hope during the early Frost era. You're getting so mad your imagining arguments you think you can win, like a 10 year old after he got sent to his room by his mom.

 

[Gman1228]

They don’t know what they think. It changes weekly lol

It is obvious that the coaches don't know what they want. They recruited a run first QB who can't fucking hit the broad side of a barn. They kept on 2 huge projects who also can't fucking throw and then they put them into positions to fail when they can't indeed throw the ball.

I would love to have an offense who can actually complete a forward pass but if we can't indeed do that, I would rather win the game by knowing the limitations of our shitty players.

To put it simply, find a fucking QB who can actually throw the ball, if you can't do that, don't ask your current retards to do it 20+ times when they clearly can't.

 

[Gman1228]

Saying that was Frost getting us to be ranked is a direct contradiction of your own points. Yes, we were ranked. It wasn't due to Frosts performance that year. It was due to Nebraskas history and Frost being the hottest (no homo) coach in the country at the time coming off the UCF success. Rhule isn't going to get that grace, which is fine, but to say it's his fault for that is stupid. Ironically, it would be more Frosts fault for that.

And I don't know where you keep pulling this revisionist history stuff from. At no point has anyone tried to say there wasn't hope during the early Frost era. You're getting so mad your imagining arguments you think you can win, like a 10 year old after he got sent to his room by his mom.

We were ranked because of Frost's success at UCF, Adrian Martinez and for how good we looked to end 2018. We were headed in the right direction, and do you think anyone nationally thinks Nebraska is about to breakthrough? That is laughable at this point. We are fucking away games now just like we did under Frost and guess what that does? It erodes any progress you are making in the program because at the end of the day the only thing that matters is W/Ls. At some point, you actually have to win games to improve. We lost 2 games this year directly due to in-game coaching. That is not even accounting for the absolute JV staff we assembled on offense.

Everyone is sucking off Rhule for getting us to 5-5 and shaming anyone who questions the current direction of the program. We had an absolutely golden opportunity to get this ship headed in the right direction and we absolutely shit down our leg again.

 

[Goskers07]

We were ranked because of Frost's success at UCF, Adrian Martinez and for how good we looked to end 2018. We were headed in the right direction, and do you think anyone nationally thinks Nebraska is about to breakthrough? That is laughable at this point. We are fucking away games now just like we did under Frost and guess what that does? It erodes any progress you are making in the program because at the end of the day the only thing that matters is W/Ls. At some point, you actually have to win games to improve. We lost 2 games this year directly due to in-game coaching. That is not even accounting for the absolute JV staff we assembled on offense.

Everyone is sucking off Rhule for getting us to 5-5 and shaming anyone who questions the current direction of the program. We had an absolutely golden opportunity to get this ship headed in the right direction and we absolutely shit down our leg again.

You contradict yourself so much it hurts to read.

And we had a golden opportunity to right the ship and it's gone just 10 games into a regime? Certainly everything has been shit I'm sure. Without looking anything up I'm betting there has been absolutely zero improvement. I bet the defense still sucks, especially.

My, time moves so quick. Maybe we should have got Deion or #2ndChoice. Or kept Frost. Those three seem much better options.

 

[DrinkItIn]

We were ranked because of Frost's success at UCF, Adrian Martinez and for how good we looked to end 2018. We were headed in the right direction, and do you think anyone nationally thinks Nebraska is about to breakthrough? That is laughable at this point. We are fucking away games now just like we did under Frost and guess what that does? It erodes any progress you are making in the program because at the end of the day the only thing that matters is W/Ls. At some point, you actually have to win games to improve. We lost 2 games this year directly due to in-game coaching. That is not even accounting for the absolute JV staff we assembled on offense.

Everyone is sucking off Rhule for getting us to 5-5 and shaming anyone who questions the current direction of the program. We had an absolutely golden opportunity to get this ship headed in the right direction and we absolutely shit down our leg again.

If Rhule is fucking games up like Frost was in year 5, then ok.

Its year 1, man. What golden opportunity are you talking about? A bowl game? Thats still on the table.

What the fuck are you so mad about in year one of a rebuild?

 

[Gman1228]

You contradict yourself so much it hurts to read.

And we had a golden opportunity to right the ship and it's gone just 10 games into a regime? Certainly everything has been shit I'm sure. Without looking anything up I'm betting there has been absolutely zero improvement. I bet the defense still sucks, especially.

My, time moves so quick. Maybe we should have got Deion or #2ndChoice. Or kept Frost. Those three seem much better options.

What contradiction? My point is everyone acts like these early data points don’t matter because it’s “year 1”. Everyone ignored it under Frost, the same fucking warning signs are here again. We are absolutely losing games we should be winning. It doesn’t concern you that this is the O staff Rhule put together? The fact that he handpicked Sim’s and ran off Thompson? The fact that his in game coaching directly led to us losing to Minnesota and Maryland?

The D looks better because we have an actual staff on that side of the ball! It’s amazing what coaching does. It also helps that this conference is an absolute joke right now outside of 2 teams. Win 7 games year 1 and build up some goodwill to take pressure off moving forward. We had an absolute golden opportunity to do that and we fucked it.

If Rhule is fucking games up like Frost was in year 5, then ok.

Its year 1, man. What golden opportunity are you talking about? A bowl game? Thats still on the table.

What the fuck are you so mad about in year one of a rebuild?

Blowing games with bad decisions is the same thing no matter if it happens in year 1 or 5. We played a pillow soft schedule, my goodness what is so wrong with having an expectation of making a bowl game when you are 5-3 and have your next 2 games against shit teams.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

Lmao what? So getting a generational talent at QB will lead us to 7-8 wins against one of the easiest schedules in the country?

Also, when are fans going to figure out that good coaches attract good players! This clown show staff won’t have the luxury of working with talented players because news flash, the staff isn’t capable of recruiting them!

I did say 7-8 wins right now....not at seasons end. Let's say we get 1-2 more than it'd be 9-10 with receivers that won't set the world on fire.

Not bad for a 1st year coach.

 

[Goskers07]

What contradiction? My point is everyone acts like these early data points don’t matter because it’s “year 1”. Everyone ignored it under Frost, the same fucking warning signs are here again. We are absolutely losing games we should be winning. It doesn’t concern you that this is the O staff Rhule put together? The fact that he handpicked Sim’s and ran off Thompson? The fact that his in game coaching directly led to us losing to Minnesota and Maryland?

The D looks better because we have an actual staff on that side of the ball! It’s amazing what coaching does. It also helps that this conference is an absolute joke right now outside of 2 teams. Win 7 games year 1 and build up some goodwill to take pressure off moving forward. We had an absolute golden opportunity to do that and we fucked it.

Blowing games with bad decisions is the same thing no matter if it happens in year 1 or 5. We played a pillow soft schedule, my goodness what is so wrong with having an expectation of making a bowl game when you are 5-3 and have your next 2 games against shit teams.

See, now you're making up arguments in your head again. No one has said things are perfect. I think everyone is pretty well clear that the offense has been underwhelming so far. But yet, we are still doing better than expectations. I get that it's apparently quite unfathomable to you that there is room for improvement in year 1 - particularly under a coach who admits he tries to do more of a slow build rather than a quick fix - but you need to calm your tits over it. Literally no one was expecting 7 wins. Hell, the Vegas odds were 6 and a lot of people were expecting the unders. You keep throwing out this golden opportunity thing like it was an expectation. It was a pleasant surprise. If it happened, fantastic. But Rhule isn't the second coming of Frost because we are suddenly less likely to get to 7 wins - which ironically would be nearly double Frosts annual average at Nebraska.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

Ok…We had every opportunity to get a player like that and we recruited the one and only Jeff Sims. I’m not sure how that’s not a huge red flag to folks. These guys have no clue what they are looking for in a player because the offense has no identity. It’s just a rag tag group of coaches and players with the only stated goal being they want to rush for 75yards in the 4th quarter.

Open your eyes people, we are the get right game for the rest of the conference. Bottom dwellers.,

And there were oh so many QB's lining up to come to a losing program.

Did they F up by selecting Sims, no doubt. Do they have an opportunity to make another evaluation and attract a QB in the off season, yes as well.

 

[Cash68847]

See, now you're making up arguments in your head again. No one has said things are perfect. I think everyone is pretty well clear that the offense has been underwhelming so far. But yet, we are still doing better than expectations. I get that it's apparently quite unfathomable to you that there is room for improvement in year 1 - particularly under a coach who admits he tries to do more of a slow build rather than a quick fix - but you need to calm your tits over it. Literally no one was expecting 7 wins. Hell, the Vegas odds were 6 and a lot of people were expecting the unders. You keep throwing out this golden opportunity thing like it was an expectation. It was a pleasant surprise. If it happened, fantastic. But Rhule isn't the second coming of Frost because we are suddenly less likely to get to 7 wins - which ironically would be nearly double Frosts annual average at Nebraska.

I think most people thought we could get to 6-7 wins this year with real coaching.

 

[Alcaus]

I think most people thought we could get to 6-7 wins this year with real coaching.

Yeah, making a bowl would be a great success and it’s still achievable. Not sure what everyone else expected but winning the West was only in play bc the division is absolute garbage.

 

[Turn Down for What]

This schedule was an absolute layup compared to prior seasons and upcoming seasons and yet they still found a way to let it run right down their leg.

Defend this season all you want. But whoever does is a tater.

 

[Cash68847]

Yeah, making a bowl would be a great success and it’s still achievable. Not sure what everyone else expected but winning the West was only in play bc the division is absolute garbage.

And expectations can change throughout the season. I never thought the BIG west would be this bad. With it being this bad not getting to a bowl is a failure especially if we can’t get it down in 4 games after being at 5-3.

 

[Alcaus]

And expectations can change throughout the season. I never thought the BIG west would be this bad. With it being this bad not getting to a bowl is a failure especially if we can’t get it down in 4 games after being at 5-3.

Agree with you there

 

[Gman1228]

You know what else winning does? It helps power NIL and gets momentum going. I’m shocked that people on this board act like we don’t need momentum and we just absolutely squandered two perfect opportunities. I guess my expectations are too high.

 

[Goskers07]

I think most people thought we could get to 6-7 wins this year with real coaching.

6 was always on the high end of predictions when people accounted for all the Frost players being used. And alot of those people were expecting Sims not to be a total shit show. Or to not lose 8/11 day 1 starters on offense.

 

[Gman1228]

6 was always on the high end of predictions when people accounted for all the Frost players being used. And alot of those people were expecting Sims not to be a total shit show. Or to not lose 8/11 day 1 starters on offense.

Talk about moving the goal posts. If we would have just kept Frost’s players aka Casey Thompson, we would have fallen into 7-9 wins. What did we do though? Ran off Thompson and brought in a QB who turns the ball over every 10 plays.

 

[Cash68847]

6 was always on the high end of predictions when people accounted for all the Frost players being used. And alot of those people were expecting Sims not to be a total shit show. Or to not lose 8/11 day 1 starters on offense.

Most Husker fans thought Rhule could make a bowl and he still might. If we don’t at this point it’s a failure considering the circumstances how we got there.

 

[Goskers07]

Talk about moving the goal posts. If we would have just kept Frost’s players aka Casey Thompson, we would have fallen into 7-9 wins. What did we do though? Ran off Thompson and brought in a QB who turns the ball over every 10 plays.

Moving what goal posts? Thats almost exactly what I've been saying this whole time. Why do you insist on making up arguments? Looking back, I'd have loved to keep Thompson. However, it makes sense why they didn't too. They had no way of seeing how he was going to fit into their offense until preseason camp due to injury. That's a ton of risk. I was not a big fan of Sims either. I've already told you they weren't infallible.

So what is the next argument you're going to try to make up?