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[Jim14510]

Wandale, Ty Rob, and Nick Henrich are head and shoulders better than anything we have committed and Rhule has been singing the praises of Benhart and Piper all spring. Dedrick Mills sucked? Garret Nelson and Vokolek sucked?

I don’t see any signs pointing at this class being better than our 2019 class. I’m glad you feel different. I wish i had your optimism.

You'll have to show me where I said this class was better. First of all the first signing day is 6 months away. 2nd don't have the advantage of being able to take 28 kids and completely whiffing on over half of them. 3rd they don't suit up for their first game for a year and a half.

What is a fact is that Frost had all of the momentum a head coach could have coming into a 4-8 team. Had the ability to take a very large class and there is no metric a sane person could look at in hindsight and say "That's a good class!"

I really like Danny and am optimistic he has a good career at Nebraska. I'm also fully aware I'm biased.

Probably don't have anyone in the class currently that will have the same success as Wandale but of course he transferred.

Outside of Wandale being better than the 2019 class is a pretty low bar. 9 starters that are capable of going 5-7. That doesn't mean they sucked. There's a few average players that might be in the two deep of the bottom half of other P5 teams.

 

[jickey moseph]

Wandale, Ty Rob, and Nick Henrich are head and shoulders better than anything we have committed and Rhule has been singing the praises of Benhart and Piper all spring. Dedrick Mills sucked? Garret Nelson and Vokolek sucked?

I don’t see any signs pointing at this class being better than our 2019 class. I’m glad you feel different. I wish i had your optimism.

I can't believe you are dangling someone in Henrich whom can't stay healthy (and looked like an unathletic LB when he did play last season because he can't stay healthy) as a point to Frost. If anything, it should be a L to Frost since he couldn't develop someone like Henrich. Jury still out on Ty Rob since the previous coaching staff, again, couldn't develop him and made him slow and unathletic.

Also... where were Garrett Nelson and Vokolek ranked? Compelling argument as they were both lowly ranked recruits. Overall, quite a weird take you have.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Vokolek was a transfer from Rutgers. Not sure why he's included in this discussion anyway.

 

[DuckSker]

Didn't Prude attend a satellite camp? That's a little different than a team specific camp. I would imagine there could be representatives from Tater Island there potentially? You also get a ranking for getting offers. This is well known and is part of the bias that exists in the recruiting service world. You're allowed to bitch and moan as much as you want, but the number of 3 stars and FCS kids that get drafted tells us there are still plenty of kids that slip through the cracks. I don't know why you think Rhule could find them successfully at Temple and Baylor, but it's impossible for him to find them at Nebraska. You gotta just chill out. He even told everyone in Nebraska months ago during one of his pressers this was going to happen. Were you bitching about it then?

Didn’t Rhule have 2/3 losing seasons at Baylor? We act like he built some powerhouse lol. He got beat in every big game they played. He’s 53-51 as a head coach.

I wanted #2ndChoice who was like 75-18 as a head coach with a CFP berth under his belt.

Like i said pour me up some 2 star koolaid boys. I’ll have what you’re all having. Yummmm.

 

[CornHub]

Didn’t Rhule have 2/3 losing seasons at Baylor? We act like he built some powerhouse lol. He got beat in every big game they played. He’s 53-51 as a head coach.

I wanted #2ndChoice who was like 75-18 as a head coach with a CFP berth under his belt.

Like i said pour me up some 2 star koolaid boys. I’ll have what you’re all having. Yummmm.

Lol so you were bitching when he was hired? This is actually a problem with you not liking Rhule? Do we really need to have the head coach hiring conversation all over again? Go find the old Rhule threads if you really want to have that conversation.

I'm actually kind of excited by this new approach to recruiting. I think it shows that these guys know exactly what they are looking for in their players. And if I was trying to beat the OSUs and Michigans of the world, but the 5 stars wouldn't even give me a nod, I'm going to find all the raw athletic freaks I can and try to teach them how to play football. Sure, it takes a player longer in your system to be good, but your ceiling really isn't much different than the teams recruiting 5 stars. The best part about these kids is not a single one is going to come in with an over inflated ego.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Let this be a lesson to all of you fucking idiots for replying to DuckSker.

Gotta score the round 10-8 for him though cause of the number of posters he's hooked

 

[DuckSker]

Lol so you were bitching when he was hired? This is actually a problem with you not liking Rhule? Do we really need to have the head coach hiring conversation all over again? Go find the old Rhule threads if you really want to have that conversation.

I'm actually kind of excited by this new approach to recruiting. I think it shows that these guys know exactly what they are looking for in their players. And if I was trying to beat the OSUs and Michigans of the world, but the 5 stars wouldn't even give me a nod, I'm going to find all the raw athletic freaks I can and try to teach them how to play football. Sure, it takes a player longer in your system to be good, but your ceiling really isn't much different than the teams recruiting 5 stars. The best part about these kids is not a single one is going to come in with an over inflated ego.

KOOL AID MANNNN BELLLCCHHHH WE NEED THESE 2 STARS TO COMPETE WITH OSU AND MICHIGAN CUZ THEY DONT HAVE EGOS BELLLCCHHHH KOOLAID HOORAH

 

[DuckSker]

Let this be a lesson to all of you fucking idiots for replying to DuckSker.

Gotta score the round 10-8 for him though cause of the number of posters he's hooked

Quack attack is loose today baby come get some

 

[CornHub]

KOOL AID MANNNN BELLLCCHHHH WE NEED THESE 2 STARS TO COMPETE WITH OSU AND MICHIGAN CUZ THEY DONT HAVE EGOS BELLLCCHHHH KOOLAID HOORAH

So what's your end goal here? You just praying at night for Nebraska to lose so you can tell everyone how right you were? Is that the only thing that can get you off? If Fickel had been hired and when he was ultimately not able to land 5 stars either, what would you have been saying? It's not like #2ndChoice is landing your precious 5 stars at wiscy either. I think you have an unrealistic view of college football.

 

[Jim14510]

I wanted #2ndChoice who was like 75-18 as a head coach with a CFP berth under his belt.

6-7 as a P5 coach (3-5 in B1G)
7-6 against P5 teams at Cincinnati

I wouldn't have been disappointed if we hired him. Just don't think there was much of a difference between the two.

P5 wins at Cincinnati:
UCLA twice 2017 and 2019
VA Tech 2018
Boston College 2019
Indiana 2021 and 2022
Notre Dame 2021

P5 Losses:
Michigan 2017
Ohio St 2019
Georgia 2020
Alabama 2021
Arkansas 2022
Louisville 2022

Nothing embarrassing about the P5 Losses. Notre Dame was a good win in 2021. They ended up top 10.

 

[DuckSker]

So what's your end goal here? You just praying at night for Nebraska to lose so you can tell everyone how right you were? Is that the only thing that can get you off? If Fickel had been hired and when he was ultimately not able to land 5 stars either, what would you have been saying? It's not like #2ndChoice is landing your precious 5 stars at wiscy either. I think you have an unrealistic view of college football.

I never said anythint about 5 stars but some 4’s sure would be nice. He’s already beating us head to head for guys like Heiberger from Sioux Falls.

Here’s Wiscy’s class right now i’ll let you be the judge. I’m sure it sucks and ours is just full of gems! KOOLLAAAIIDDDD BELLCCHHH

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[DuckSker]

6-7 as a P5 coach (3-5 in B1G)
7-6 against P5 teams at Cincinnati

I wouldn't have been disappointed if we hired him. Just don't think there was much of a difference between the two.

P5 wins at Cincinnati:
UCLA twice 2017 and 2019
VA Tech 2018
Boston College 2019
Indiana 2021 and 2022
Notre Dame 2021

P5 Losses:
Michigan 2017
Ohio St 2019
Georgia 2020
Alabama 2021
Arkansas 2022
Louisville 2022

Nothing embarrassing about the P5 Losses. Notre Dame was a good win in 2021. They ended up top 10.

Yeah, Rhule was the better hire for sure and #2ndChoice is overrated. Just ask anyone who covers college football for a living. Nebraska fans having blinders on is what we do best. 80% talked ourselves into Mike Riley being a good hire. “Does things the right way”

KOOLAIIDDD BELLCCHHH sometimes you just gotta go get a fucking winner. And 1 year wonder Frosty don’t count

 

[Jim14510]

Didn’t Rhule have 2/3 losing seasons at Baylor?

1 losing season at Temple, 1 .500 season and 2 winning seasons.

1 losing season at Baylor 2 winning. 1-11, 7-6, 11-3.

 

[Jim14510]

Yeah, Rhule was the better hire for sure and #2ndChoice is overrated. Just ask anyone who covers college football for a living.

KOOLAIIDDD BELLCCHHH

Pretty sure nobody said that.

 

[CornHub]

I never said anythint about 5 stars but some 4’s sure would be nice. He’s already beating us head to head for guys like Heiberger from Sioux Falls.

Here’s Wiscy’s class right now i’ll let you be the judge. I’m sure it sucks and ours is just full of gems! KOOLLAAAIIDDDD BELLCCHHH

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You're talking him up over three 4 stars? I don't know what difference you really think that makes. None of them are even ranked in the top 250. You're splitting hairs between the majority of all players outside of the top 100 as it is, but for players not even in the top 250 I don't know why they even give them a 4th star. I'm not bashing Fickel, but I just think you have a strange view of the talent pool and recruiting in general.

 

[DuckSker]

Pretty sure nobody said that.

I got absolutely blasted for having that take on here. Platinum board is 95% Rhule>>#2ndChoice. I have the receipts.

Me and Buck were the only ones who thought #2ndChoice woulda been a better hire. Let that sink in. Hope we’re wrong!

 

[DuckSker]

You're talking him up over three 4 stars? I don't know what difference you really think that makes. None of them are even ranked in the top 250. You're splitting hairs between the majority of all players outside of the top 100 as it is, but for players not even in the top 250 I don't know why they even give them a 4th star.

Well i tend to look more at offer lists than i do stars…. the offer list will usually tell you more about a player than a star will. We have like 4/12 guys right now committed who have other P5 offers. Lol.

I’m done arguing with you,, it’s noted that you think our class is better than Wiscy’s right now. Hoping we get Dae’vonn Hall as he is a legit P5 talent

 

[CornHub]

Well i tend to look more at offer lists than i do stars…. the offer list will usually tell you more about a player than a star will. We have like 4/12 guys right now committed who have other P5 offers. Lol.

I’m done arguing with you,, it’s noted that you think our class is better than Wiscy’s right now. Hoping we get Dae’vonn Hall as he is a legit P5 talent

We've had players in the past with tons of p5 "offers". Those offer lists don't really tell the whole story. I think it's a lazy way of recruiting. You get teams that are like, "oh shit so and so team offered that guy, well we better offer him too". That's pretty weak. I don't know enough about the kids in either Wiscy or Nebraska's recruiting class to really differentiate between the two, and neither do you. Nebraska has landed many 4 stars in the past and they've had a terrible track record with them. Bill Bush said that's a talent evaluation problem which should tell you that not all 4 stars are created equal.

 

[Jim14510]

I got absolutely blasted for having that take on here. Platinum board is 95% Rhule>>#2ndChoice. I have the receipts.

Me and Buck were the only ones who thought #2ndChoice woulda been a better hire. Let that sink in. Hope we’re wrong!

There may have been a few but I think the vast majority including myself said we'd rather have Rhule but splitting hairs.

 

[Jim14510]

I got absolutely blasted for having that take on here. Platinum board is 95% Rhule>>#2ndChoice. I have the receipts.

Me and Buck were the only ones who thought #2ndChoice woulda been a better hire. Let that sink in. Hope we’re wrong!

Also you got blasted because you were being a douche bag about it. Not because you liked #2ndChoice better. When you grow up you'll realize the difference.