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[Jim14510]

Are you excited for Matrix 4?

I'm betting Trinity turns out to be the real "one" because Neo has a meat missile.

Saw the preview the other night. About pee'd myself with excitement.

 

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If you could change one rule in football, what would it be?


Personally, I've always thought that a fumble going out of bounds through the scoring team's end zone resulting in a turnover and touchback is idiotic. If that ball goes out of bounds 1 inch short of the pylon, then the offense retains possession at the spot of the fumble. Why should it be any different if the ball hits the pylon?

Rules I'd change in college:
Down by contact like NFL.
Get rid of 15-yard defensive pass interference, so straight up spot foul. I've seen way too many intentional pass interferences down field. Defense shouldn't be rewarded by only giving up the 15 yard foul vs a long gain.
Get rid of low blocks completely too many exceptions that make this tough to officiate. Although they have made it somewhat easier the last few years.

Rules in high school:
Previous spot plus distance or spot foul on all fouls that occur behind the line of scrimmage. I've had 20 yard penalties and even a 30+ yard penalty on offense because they occurred 10-20 behind the line of scrimmage.


Bring back the automatic first down on pass interference. I've seen teams screwed by this too many times.


A few years ago I had a game where the QB scrambled, fumbled, picked up the ball and scrambled back to close to the line of scrimmage. We had a hold or block in the back 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage. As result Omaha South had a 2nd and around 40 to go. Next play we had defensive pass interference, no automatic, 2nd and 25 to go. Then a play. On 3rd down, we had an obvious intentional pass interference pass the down markers. Again, no first down. Omaha South is sitting at 3rd and 10 after having 2 pass interference calls in their favor. Granted that type of play doesn't happen a lot, but we do get a lot of 15+ yard penalties due to holds that happen 5+ yards in the backfield.

 

[lee_carvallo_12]

compared to other D's that OU will see in the Big 12, how does DONU's stack up?

 

[slattimer]

Scenario. Player A initiates a crack block with Player B. Player B is shuffling to the side and looks on film to turn toward the crack the moment of contact. Player A proceeds to decleat player B through helmet to helmet contact. Penalty or nah?

 

[Jim14510]

compared to other D's that OU will see in the Big 12, how does DONU's stack up?

Average

 

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Scenario. Player A initiates a crack block with Player B. Player B is shuffling to the side and looks on film to turn toward the crack the moment of contact. Player A proceeds to decleat player B through helmet to helmet contact. Penalty or nah?

If I'm envisioning this correctly, minimum blindside block, if the block was forceable. Pretty much all decleating blocks from a crack or coming outside the defender's area of vision will be a blindside block. If that defensive player has no time to defend himself it is a blindside block.

For targeting was there any sort of the blocker lowering his head, a launch, a crouch followed by upward thrust, or leading with the helmet to the head or neck area? For that last one, leading with helmet, would the helmet to head contact have occurred if the defender didn't turn into it? Did the blocker initiate forceable contact with the crown of his helmet?

The defender is a defenseless player per rule by "a player who receives a blindside block."

 

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Ed hokulee's kid is a ref now, he any good? Loved big Ed. I know I spelled his name wrong

He's good, but was fast tracked because of who his dad was. Would he have eventually ended up where he did? More than likely, but by name he was brought into the NFL years ahead of others just as deserving. He was 35 when he entered the NFL.

 

[slattimer]

If I'm envisioning this correctly, minimum blindside block, if the block was forceable. Pretty much all decleating blocks from a crack or coming outside the defender's area of vision will be a blindside block. If that defensive player has no time to defend himself it is a blindside block.

For targeting was there any sort of the blocker lowering his head, a launch, a crouch followed by upward thrust, or leading with the helmet to the head or neck area? For that last one, leading with helmet, would the helmet to head contact have occurred if the defender didn't turn into it? Did the blocker initiate forceable contact with the crown of his helmet?

The defender is a defenseless player per rule by "a player who receives a blindside block."

Ref we had a couple weeks ago let one my kids get blasted...said he turned just before the hit, so no blindside block, at the time, I thought that was terrible. You can see on tape he turns at the last moment (Our DB neglected to yell crack) but still he got crushed with helmet to helmet contact.

 

[Jim14510]

Ref we had a couple weeks ago let one my kids get blasted...said he turned just before the hit, so no blindside block, at the time, I thought that was terrible. You can see on tape he turns at the last moment (Our DB neglected to yell crack) but still he got crushed with helmet to helmet contact.

Pretty sure that means you have permission to blindside the ref the next time you see him.

 

[slattimer]

Pretty sure that means you have permission to blindside the ref the next time you see him.

This ref sucked. I was pissed. He blew another big call later. Fumbled snap. Qb bends down to pick the ball up. Does. And takes off and gets a first down And he calls him down. Said his knee touched. It didn’t. I told him I’ll send him the film because that’s a terrible call. He said he didn’t need it because he has eyes. I kind of chucked and just said. Well. That’s how I know you’re wrong. You won’t even look at it. He got all sorts of firey red head mad and kind of stomped off.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Damian Daniels writes in.....What's the difference between face mask and hands to the face?

 

[Havoc34]

Damian Daniels writes in.....What's the difference between face mask and hands to the face?

Racist refs

 

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Damian Daniels writes in.....What's the difference between face mask and hands to the face?

Rules wise a facemask penalty is grasping the facemask, chinstrap, or helmet opening AND twisting, pulling, or turning. A hands to the face is a continuous contact with the helmet or neck with the hands or forearm of a non-ball carrier.

Both carry a 15 yard penalty. If the opponent's helmet comes off due to this penalty he may remain in the game.

This should have been a penalty.

 

[Skerz4Life50]

Rules wise a facemask penalty is grasping the facemask, chinstrap, or helmet opening AND twisting, pulling, or turning. A hands to the face is a continuous contact with the helmet or neck with the hands or forearm of a non-ball carrier.

Both carry a 15 yard penalty. If the opponent's helmet comes off due to this penalty he may remain in the game.

This should have been a penalty.

And the crazy thing is that it ended with a penalty on Daniels for continuing play with his helmet off. So basically at worst it should have been offsetting penalties, correct? Sometimes I wish penalties could be reviewed, but I know that is opening a Pandora’s box of problems.

 

[Jim14510]

And the crazy thing is that it ended with a penalty on Daniels for continuing play with his helmet off. So basically at worst it should have been offsetting penalties, correct? Sometimes I wish penalties could be reviewed, but I know that is opening a Pandora’s box of problems.

Think that was a different play. Not sure though. Seems like he was running downfield on that play.

 

[Skerz4Life50]

Think that was a different play. Not sure though. Seems like he was running downfield on that play.

You are right. It was a different play. It starts at about the 23:00 mark in this video. And guess what, looks like it was another hands to the face of Daniels, though not a blatant. I can better understand why that one wasn't called.

 

[vailhusker]

 

[Juro]

Fuck them refs.

 

[Pipe Line]

Could be wrong but I don't think they're supposed to put that shit on twitter.

 

[HCFord1]

Could be wrong but I don't think they're supposed to put that shit on twitter.

That guy is getting sued by Dean for sure. That was PREMIUM TUNNEL TALK INFORMATION.