Nebrasketball Coaching Hot Board

[jickey moseph]

Why is better in quotes?

Do you seriously believe the Huskers have a better program than the Jays?

If you were talking UNO, then I can “kinda“ see that

Brother I’m a Nebrasketball homer and on a Nebraska board

 

[Papa...Football]

Brother I’m a Nebrasketball homer and on a Nebraska board

Close minded then. Got it

 

[jickey moseph]

Close minded then. Got it

1-0 in the last year against your Pickle Smoochers team, brother.

Math

 

[Quint]

Fred’s first three years at NU were undeniably bad. However, since then, he’s gone 51-34, secured a 3rd-place finish in the Big Ten, and led the team to an NCAA Tournament appearance.

For context, Tim Miles never finished better than 4th in conference play, Doc Sadler at 7th, and Barry Collier at 6th. It’s clear that Fred was/is trending in the right direction.

Will NU shit the bed the rest of the year? Maybe, maybe not. But calling for Fred’s job over this 5-game skid is absurd. Nebraska is the worst P6 team in the history of basketball, and canning a coach who just secured their highest conference finish since 1993 and only their 2nd NCAA appearance since 1998 seems a bit hasty.

While I’m certainly not calling for Hoiberg’s head, I don’t really see last year’s finish as proof he’s got the program trending in the right direction. His roster management has always had the feel of a guy who’s just taking over at a new school. Plug a few holes, to give me some time.

We had some incredible performances down the stretch last year that if repeated this year would have turned four of the last five losses into wins, but it doesn’t appear to have translated to the ’24-25 team with Tominaga and Mast gone. I understand the ‘Let the players make plays’ mindset, but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of structure and it ends up being an equation we fall on the short side of, unless someone has a really hot hand shooting the ball and/or rebounding. We had that last year, haven’t consistently had it this season. To your point, the season’s not over and they could certainly get hot. I’m guessing he’s got to find 8 wins in the remaining 12 games and/or a deep push in the Conference Tournament to get into the NCAA tournament, which looks unlikely right now.

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

1-0 in the last year against your Pickle Smoochers team, brother.

Math

Fair enough but Pickle Smoochers is currently winning. I'd rather have lost to Pickle Smoochers and be winning now.

 

[Southendzonehusker]

Fair enough but Pickle Smoochers is currently winning. I'd rather have lost to Pickle Smoochers and be winning now.

All Pickle Smoochers fans should be banned from this board

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

All Pickle Smoochers fans should be banned from this board

I'm not one. I was just stating a fact.

 

[Huskers4420]

Close minded then. Got it

It’s a Nebraska message board you ain’t gonna get us giving other teams flowers come on man 😂😂.

Yes the blue team has a better basketball program. No shit lol. That doesn’t have anything to do with the topic of discussion. What’s more concerning is Fred’s big ass contract and how we’d even be able to get out of it any time soon. Looks like the team didn’t even want to play today sans maybe Rollie and Sam.

 

[Southendzonehusker]

Close minded then. Got it

It’s funny how many people think you should be a Pickle Smoochers fan because they are in Nebraska. Pickle Smoochers suck and if you have a problem hearing that on this board you’re probably in the wrong place.

 

[skerfan]

I am sure this has been discussed but we dont have a single guy in our 10 man rotation that came here on scholarship after high school. I realize that the portal has changed college athletics significantly but that is absolutely mind boggling. We play 8 transfers and 2 former walk ons and we have to start over every single year, that is not sustainable.

 

[Dell Husker]

Tough email to send out today

 

[RedTillDead]

Isn’t Fred a top 15 paid (roughly) at approx 4.25-4.5 million a year? If we’re paying that level for Fred, we should easily be able to pay at least that if not more for the next coach.

 

[djw004]

Fred’s first three years at NU were undeniably bad. However, since then, he’s gone 51-34, secured a 3rd-place finish in the Big Ten, and led the team to an NCAA Tournament appearance.

For context, Tim Miles never finished better than 4th in conference play, Doc Sadler at 7th, and Barry Collier at 6th. It’s clear that Fred was/is trending in the right direction.

Will NU shit the bed the rest of the year? Maybe, maybe not. But calling for Fred’s job over this 5-game skid is absurd. Nebraska is the worst P6 team in the history of basketball, and canning a coach who just secured their highest conference finish since 1993 and only their 2nd NCAA appearance since 1998 seems a bit hasty.

This idea that people are calling for his head after a 5 game skid is incredibly misleading. We are one season removed from a "tourney or bust" mandate for his job that ended very well. That hot seat doesn't just "go away" because you made it, you bet your bottom dollar you better keep trending that way.

The following season has been incredibly unimpressive. We started hot because of cupcake scheduling to stack wins for an appearance of improvement. A couple of decent wins with a lot of bad losses. Pickle Smoochers was pathetic at the time we beat them, UCLA and Indiana are .500 in conference play. Outside of those we are talking about UTRGV, North Florida, USD, Murray St, Southern...

Freddy is stockpiling wins early. Don't be fooled. Luckily, our final 9 aren't world beaters. MAYBE he can get hot and improve our conference standing this season, because 2nd to last is only going to make last season look even more flukey.

His only saving grace at this point is that his agent scored a nice extension after his outlier season last year. HIs job security at this point is tied to Money, not performance.

 

[PonyBoy]

Isn’t Fred a top 15 paid (roughly) at approx 4.25-4.5 million a year? If we’re paying that level for Fred, we should easily be able to pay at least that if not more for the next coach.

2024-2025 salaries won't come out till March 2025. USA Today puts the list out...

Last year, they had him as the 28th highest paid coach in the country, and that was good enough for 9th in the B1G. $3,500,000. Couple hundred thousand more and he's top 5 in the B1G. FTR, there are around a dozen schools across the NCAA that don't report.

Fred is in the $4M+ category now.

 

[PonyBoy]

Fred’s first three years at NU were undeniably bad. However, since then, he’s gone 51-34, secured a 3rd-place finish in the Big Ten, and led the team to an NCAA Tournament appearance.

For context, Tim Miles never finished better than 4th in conference play, Doc Sadler at 7th, and Barry Collier at 6th. It’s clear that Fred was/is trending in the right direction.

Manipulation of numbers is fun.

Tim Miles last 3 seasons ended with a 53-47 record & 2 NIT appearances in his last 2 seasons. We fired him because that wasn't good enough. And hired Fred to improve the product, and quite frankly - after what is now looking to be a fluke 23/24 season - he hasn't.

Congrats, in 6 seasons Fred has a single 3rd place finish with 1 post-season berth while in 7 seasons Miles had two (2) 4th place & 3 postseason berths. Tim fucking Miles has more post-season appearances at Nebraska than Fred Hoiberg. And higher finishes in the B1G. 👀 Fred will need to do something spectacular this season AND next just to match Miles' post-season. Yikes!

Moving forward, we lose 7 of 9 guys currently playing a minimim of 10 minutes per game. The 2 we possibly return are Essegian & Berke. Add in Griffiths and it's 3 people. LOL.

If people are being honest with themselves, there isn't a single person who would have been okay with Hoiberg's results after 7 seasons.

11 games remain, so we'll see what happens...

 

[PonyBoy]

Miles v Hoiberg

Season 1
PPG - 58.3 v 69.8
OPPG - 63.5 v 78.1
ATT - 10,352* v 15,602
*Devaney Center

Season 2
PPG - 66.8 v 70
OPPG - 65.2 v 74.2
ATT - 15,419 v N/A (covid)

Season 3
PPG - 61.5 v 73.3
OPPG - 63.1 v 78.5
ATT - 15,569 v 13,221

Season 4
PPG - 72.2 v 68
OPPG - 69 v 69.9
ATT - 15,430 v ??
?? = huskers archive has same numbers as prior season

Season 5
PPG - 69.9 v 77.7
OPPG - 73 v 70.9
ATT - 15,427 v 14,597

Season 6
PPG - 72.3 v 75.3 (TBD)
OPPG - 68.6 v 71 (TBD)
ATT - 15,492 v TBD

Season 7
PPG - 71.8 v next season
OPPG - 67.2 v next season
ATT - 15,341 v next season

 

[Dell Husker]

@Cowboy Kermit has been quiet. How’s it going?

 

[Papa...Football]

It’s funny how many people think you should be a Pickle Smoochers fan because they are in Nebraska. Pickle Smoochers suck and if you have a problem hearing that on this board you’re probably in the wrong place.

If you think the jays suck but NU doesn’t then you should get a new eyeglass prescription asap

 

[jickey moseph]

If you think the jays suck but NU doesn’t then you should get a new eyeglass prescription asap

You're still doing this?

 

[DrinkItIn]

Manipulation of numbers is fun.

Tim Miles last 3 seasons ended with a 53-47 record & 2 NIT appearances in his last 2 seasons. We fired him because that wasn't good enough. And hired Fred to improve the product, and quite frankly - after what is now looking to be a fluke 23/24 season - he hasn't.

Congrats, in 6 seasons Fred has a single 3rd place finish with 1 post-season berth while in 7 seasons Miles had two (2) 4th place & 3 postseason berths. Tim fucking Miles has more post-season appearances at Nebraska than Fred Hoiberg. And higher finishes in the B1G. 👀 Fred will need to do something spectacular this season AND next just to match Miles' post-season. Yikes!

Moving forward, we lose 7 of 9 guys currently playing a minimim of 10 minutes per game. The 2 we possibly return are Essegian & Berke. Add in Griffiths and it's 3 people. LOL.

If people are being honest with themselves, there isn't a single person who would have been okay with Hoiberg's results after 7 seasons.

11 games remain, so we'll see what happens...

Good post, and I wasn’t trying to manipulate any numbers. I think most would agree that up until this six-game skid, Nebraska had been playing solid basketball dating back to 2023 going 43-29, .600.

I’m a huge supporter of Tim Miles and always felt he shouldn’t have been fired. I’m still bitter about NU being left out of the NCAA Tournament in 2017-18, even after finishing 4th in the Big Ten—that was an absolute travesty.

For the record, I’m NOT okay with Fred Hoiberg’s overall results. Outside of his recent run, his tenure has been mostly miserable. I didn't want to ignore that NU just had their highest conference finish since 1992-93 and talking of firing him felt a bit premature, especially given the program’s historical struggles.

That said, this six-game skid has been rough, and it’s hard to see things improving. To your point, there’s not much to look forward to from a roster standpoint either. Fred will likely get another year if he wants it, but he may choose to step away. Either way, things have unraveled quickly, and the path forward is unclear.