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Mickey Joseph

Intrigued by a guy from a 9-3 small group of 5 that didn’t call plays? No that would not be intriguing

In my opinion, if Frost hired Korn or Davis as his OC it’s almost a move to pander to the blue hairs to remind them of the good ol’ days in a poor attempt to save his job. It would be a large joke and I’d consider Scott Frost the head tour guide for the new Museum of Husker Football History conveniently located at One Memorial Stadium Drive in Lincoln, NE rather than a head football coach.
 
In my opinion, if Frost hired Korn or Davis as his OC it’s almost a move to pander to the blue hairs to remind them of the good ol’ days in a poor attempt to save his job. It would be a large joke and I’d consider Scott Frost the head tour guide for the new Museum of Husker Football History conveniently located at One Memorial Stadium Drive in Lincoln, NE rather than a head football coach.


what else has the HC at Nebraska been for the past 20 years?
 
what else has the HC at Nebraska been for the past 20 years?

Nebraska is the only place convinced that XYZ offense won’t work there. It’s not enough for us to win. The head coach has to win a certain way. The WiscyDicks game is a great example. We threw for 350 and ran for 100. Only the second team all year to run for 100 against them. But that offensive output isn’t good enough unless those numbers are flipped.

I’m so sick of this place being so stuck up it’s own ass that winning is secondary to how we go about winning.

Get Mickey to get us into the big boy SEC recruiting practices. Get the best OC you can get that runs a similar system to yours and let’s roll.

I like winning more than I like watching Nebraska and being reminded of the past because we ran a fucking option play.
 
Nebraska is the only place convinced that XYZ offense won’t work there. It’s not enough for us to win. The head coach has to win a certain way. The WiscyDicks game is a great example. We threw for 350 and ran for 100. Only the second team all year to run for 100 against them. But that offensive output isn’t good enough unless those numbers are flipped.

I’m so sick of this place being so stuck up it’s own ass that winning is secondary to how we go about winning.

Get Mickey to get us into the big boy SEC recruiting practices. Get the best OC you can get that runs a similar system to yours and let’s roll.

I like winning more than I like watching Nebraska and being reminded of the past because we ran a fucking option play.
We're like a really large Georgia Southern lol
 
Nebraska is the only place convinced that XYZ offense won’t work there. It’s not enough for us to win. The head coach has to win a certain way. The WiscyDicks game is a great example. We threw for 350 and ran for 100. Only the second team all year to run for 100 against them. But that offensive output isn’t good enough unless those numbers are flipped.

I’m so sick of this place being so stuck up it’s own ass that winning is secondary to how we go about winning.

Get Mickey to get us into the big boy SEC recruiting practices. Get the best OC you can get that runs a similar system to yours and let’s roll.

I like winning more than I like watching Nebraska and being reminded of the past because we ran a fucking option play.
Nailed it. I think it’s Harrell or a G5 play caller that runs some similar concepts.

And anyone who thinks the new OC is truly “getting the keys” to the offense is kidding themselves. Frost has said numerous times “we are close” and he just needs some fresh ideas to get us over the hump.

That’s not overhauling the offense. That is taking what we have and getting some fresh eyes on it that can get us a few points here and a few points there. And that’s the right way to go about this.

Because quite honestly, if we had a few points here and there, and respectable special teams this year, we are a 8-10 win team and Frost is extended to 2030.
 
We're like a really large Georgia Southern lol

Over the weekend I drew some weird parallels between the difference between us and Oklahoma and the difference between Michigan and tOSU.

Both us and Michigan have people that will openly tell the head coach that he can’t win there unless he runs XYZ offense and has guys like such and such former player on staff. While I’m sure that may have happened at OU once upon a time, but when they hired Mike Leach in 99 and started killing people do you really think you had those same people longing for the days of the wishbone offense?

Do you think anyone at tOSU or Oklahoma give a damn how they win? Nope. But Michigan and Nebraska have to win a certain way. You have to have “Michigan Men” or someone who knows “The Nebraska Way.” Which I don’t even fucking know what means anymore. For the last 2 decades that’s been an awful lot of losing.
 
Nebraska is the only place convinced that XYZ offense won’t work there. It’s not enough for us to win. The head coach has to win a certain way. The WiscyDicks game is a great example. We threw for 350 and ran for 100. Only the second team all year to run for 100 against them. But that offensive output isn’t good enough unless those numbers are flipped.

I’m so sick of this place being so stuck up it’s own ass that winning is secondary to how we go about winning.

Get Mickey to get us into the big boy SEC recruiting practices. Get the best OC you can get that runs a similar system to yours and let’s roll.

I like winning more than I like watching Nebraska and being reminded of the past because we ran a fucking option play.
And get a top flight OL coach. I could give two shits who the OC is. That shit is minuscule compared to the importance of a good OL coach. Hell. Even the barnacle was a solid OL coach. His group had their gaffes. But they were solid.
 
Nailed it. I think it’s Harrell or a G5 play caller that runs some similar concepts.

And anyone who thinks the new OC is truly “getting the keys” to the offense is kidding themselves. Frost has said numerous times “we are close” and he just needs some fresh ideas to get us over the hump.

That’s not overhauling the offense. That is taking what we have and getting some fresh eyes on it that can get us a few points here and a few points there. And that’s the right way to go about this.

Because quite honestly, if we had a few points here and there, and respectable special teams this year, we are a 8-10 win team and Frost is extended to 2030.

I’ll probably get crucified for this take, so fuck it…

The goals at Nebraska have never been to be competitive in the west. That is obviously a natural consequence of our larger goals of course; which are to compete on a national level and achieve like tOSU and Oklahoma, etc.

Having said that, I’d like to have systems on both sides of the ball that can achieve that objective.

Frost’s system can do that. His and Brohm’s are only ones in the west that have proven to give some of the traditional powers of the conference fits. Frost puts Leonard on skates every single year. Smothers didn’t have to complete a single tough pass against Cockeye while things were going well because the scheme got a guy like Austin Allen (not an unknown commodity at this point) open and in space to make catches. Did the same for Toure.

Do you think Michigan is really scared at how well-schemed Cockeye is going to be on offense? Or do you think they’re just going through to make sure their guys know their keys for an offense they’ve defended since they were just starting to play football?

Those thinking that offensive scheme is the problem, I just can’t respect that take.

Four metrics:

1) Red zone efficiency
2) Turnovers
3) Special Teams
4) Penalties

Those are your Money Ball metrics. If this team fixes any two of those it wins 8 games. You fix all 4 and you’re likely switching positions with Cockeye right now with a chance at a playoff berth and I say that with a straight face.

And the thing is… Those four things shouldn’t be that fucking hard to fix.

Rhett Lashlee improved Miami his first year from 100th in red zone offense to 27th. I believe Graham Harrell’s offense was 25th best in the red zone this year. So are we now starting to see what we might be looking for in an OC?
 
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Nebraska is the only place convinced that XYZ offense won’t work there. It’s not enough for us to win. The head coach has to win a certain way. The WiscyDicks game is a great example. We threw for 350 and ran for 100. Only the second team all year to run for 100 against them. But that offensive output isn’t good enough unless those numbers are flipped.

I’m so sick of this place being so stuck up it’s own ass that winning is secondary to how we go about winning.

Get Mickey to get us into the big boy SEC recruiting practices. Get the best OC you can get that runs a similar system to yours and let’s roll.

I like winning more than I like watching Nebraska and being reminded of the past because we ran a fucking option play.



Is that what is happening?
 
And get a top flight OL coach. I could give two shits who the OC is. That shit is minuscule compared to the importance of a good OL coach. Hell. Even the barnacle was a solid OL coach. His group had their gaffes. But they were solid.

That OL room should sue Greg Austin for malpractice. I’m sorry, but a kid like Benhart is too talented and strong to look like that big of a moron on the field. Same goes for Corcoran. That’s the room that I honestly think the next guy is gonna walk in and say “What the fuck do you mean the last guy couldn’t get these guys ready to play?”

That room is way too talented to be as historically bad as they were.
 
Having said that, I’d like to have systems on both sides of the ball that can achieve that objective.

Frost’s system can do that. His and Brohm’s are only ones in the west that have proven to give some of the traditional powers of the conference fits. Frost puts Leonard on skates every single year. Smothers didn’t have to complete a single tough pass against Cockeyes while things were going well because the scheme got a guy like Austin Allen (not an unknown commodity at this point) open and in space to make catches. Did the same for Toure.
I've always believed that what made Nebraska so effective in the 90s was that Osborne's program was built from the bottom-up and systems-oriented, and it just snowballed into the machine we saw in 95. And I think Frost is trying to replicate that. From Husker Power S&C to the Unity Council for leadership to his offensive system.
 
And get a top flight OL coach. I could give two shits who the OC is. That shit is minuscule compared to the importance of a good OL coach. Hell. Even the barnacle was a solid OL coach. His group had their gaffes. But they were solid.
I couldn’t agree more with this. I could almost care less who the OC is. I’m more interested in who the OL coach will be. If it’s Donovan Raoila I’m not sure we’re going to be much better. Bears OL is horrid right now.
 
That OL room should sue Greg Austin for malpractice. I’m sorry, but a kid like Benhart is too talented and strong to look like that big of a moron on the field. Same goes for Corcoran. That’s the room that I honestly think the next guy is gonna walk in and say “What the fuck do you mean the last guy couldn’t get these guys ready to play?”

That room is way too talented to be as historically bad as they were.

What changed?

I mean… my question comes from a place of being in a college program as a player and in the USL. I’ve got two JUCO national championship rings for my time as a coach in a college program as well. One of my best friends who’s the head coach at Illinois St on the women’s side told me any time he has an opening and I want it it’s mine. I don’t think I have ever come off the field as a player blaming a coach for a loss. I don’t think Ive ever underperformed in a practice or game and been upset at a coach for not owning my development 100%. Surely we can agree players getting better isn’t 100% on a coach, right? I suppose that’s all the support I need for the reason I say players share some responsibility for their own development.

Yes. Coaches are responsible for their rosters. It’s easier to churn that roster now more than ever. Just like employers get fooled during interview processes coaches miss on players as well. It happens and I get that.

Yes. Good coaches make teams they’re associated with better and win more games than coaches who aren’t as good as them. Now let’s take that from a macro statement that any idiot can make and get a bit deeper. What are they doing that other coaches aren’t that separates them?

I’m not saying that we are 3-7 simply because of the players. What I’m saying is that there does have to be some level of ownership on their part right?

What makes a good coach good and what makes a bad coach bad? For example, Was Greg Austin teaching something completely different than someone like Sam Pittman? Can Austin just take Pittman’s methods and apply them at his next stop and boom, he’s just as good?
 
I’ll probably get crucified for this take, so fuck it…

The goals at Nebraska have never been to be competitive in the west. That is obviously a natural consequence of our larger goals of course; which are to compete on a national level and achieve like tOSU and Oklahoma, etc.

Having said that, I’d like to have systems on both sides of the ball that can achieve that objective.

Frost’s system can do that. His and Brohm’s are only ones in the west that have proven to give some of the traditional powers of the conference fits. Frost puts Leonard on skates every single year. Smothers didn’t have to complete a single tough pass against Cockeyes while things were going well because the scheme got a guy like Austin Allen (not an unknown commodity at this point) open and in space to make catches. Did the same for Toure.

Do you think Michigan is really scared at how well-schemed Cockeyes is going to be on offense? Or do you think they’re just going through to make sure their guys know their keys for an offense they’ve defended since they were just starting to play football?

Those thinking that offensive scheme is the problem, I just can’t respect that take.

Four metrics:

1) Red zone efficiency
2) Turnovers
3) Special Teams
4) Penalties

Those are your Money Balls metrics. If this team fixes any two of those it wins 8 games. You fix all 4 and you’re likely switching positions with Cockeyes right now with a chance at a playoff berth and I say that with a straight face.

And the thing is… Those four things shouldn’t be that fucking hard to fix.

Rhett Lashlee improved Miami his first year from 100th in red zone offense to 27th. I believe Graham Harrell’s offense was 25th best in the red zone this year. So are we now starting to see what we might be looking for in an OC?
I don't know why you'd get crucified with for this. I agree with pretty much all of it. Frost's offense can be a bitch to defend. The problems with Frosts offense hinges on a couple things, most of which has been dog shit OL play. You get better OL play, everything works better (I know I'm being captain obvious here.) But they also fall into the trap of adjustments by other teams, and the OL simply hasn't been good enough to readjust to combat the other team's adjustments. I feel like that's why you see them have great opening drives for the most part each game. Shit, Cockeye basically said fuck yore option game and apexed their OLBs and got an extra hat over the top and fast to help take care of the triple...and what did we do to it...zilch, for two reasons, one of being, any adjustment would require the OL to change something up, which they quite frankly aren't very good at, or hitting a different scheme to exploit that...again...without a solid OL, you can scheme up something with the best of them, but if the OL can't execute it, it doesn't mean a hill of shit.
 
I don't know why you'd get crucified with for this. I agree with pretty much all of it. Frost's offense can be a bitch to defend. The problems with Frosts offense hinges on a couple things, most of which has been dog shit OL play. You get better OL play, everything works better (I know I'm being captain obvious here.) But they also fall into the trap of adjustments by other teams, and the OL simply hasn't been good enough to readjust to combat the other team's adjustments. I feel like that's why you see them have great opening drives for the most part each game. Shit, Cockeyes basically said fuck yore option game and apexed their OLBs and got an extra hat over the top and fast to help take care of the triple...and what did we do to it...zilch, for two reasons, one of being, any adjustment would require the OL to change something up, which they quite frankly aren't very good at, or hitting a different scheme to exploit that...again...without a solid OL, you can scheme up something with the best of them, but if the OL can't execute it, it doesn't mean a hill of shit.

I’m a guy that likes to dig a lot deeper than surface level in a lot of these things. That being said we all know the OL wasn’t good. My question is why? Is it technique? I can’t think of anything else to be honest with you because I’m struggling to suggest its talent, knowledge of the playbook, or effort. I know this was a very young OL, but I’m over that now. Every year you’re going to have to deal with one position or another being young. So you’d better figure it out.
 
I know it doesn't matter but the braintrust over at the cable installers union seems pretty confident in Willy Korn.
Probably would be the most underwhelming hire I could imagine.

But I don’t get paid millions to make decisions like that.
 

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