Marcus Satterfield - Who is he?

[macmoolah]

Raiola would absolutely end up in a G6 conference if he leaves

Wanna put money on that? Guaranteed he ends up on a top15 Program if he leaves. I get you think he sucks with his play lately but its ridiculous to think he isnt one of the most gifted players in america.

 

[...TrueColors...]

Raiola would absolutely end up in a G6 conference if he leaves

You’re completely insane

 

[HerbRedman]

One has to ask what Rhule thought he saw in Satterfield?

Good post TC

The only question I'd have is, how far was Satterfield down the list at original time of hire? We know he was at best 3rd. Nixon was first, Thomas 2nd. I would love to know how far Satt was actually down Rhule's list. It's telling about Satt that when Rhule was building his initial staff in his head, Satt wasn't part of that vision. So if he wasn't part of the initial vision, it makes it easier to part with him (for those who say 'Rhule will never fire Satt')


On defense, Rhule had one Ride or Die (Phil Snow), but since Snow was unavailable he had to look outside of his circle. And found Tony White.

I'd like to see Rhule go outside his comfort zone for this OC hire, much like he did with Tony White.

 

[JankTheTank]

Shitterfield is awful. Dude had no business as our OC, even at a low salary number. Top ten OC pay - GTFO.

Our offense will be ass as long as Shitterfield is our OC. Thomas is almost certainly not the answer to fix that since he is here and we still have this shit show of an "offense". There is no coherent ryhme or reason to how Shitterfield calls a game. There are not adjustments. He is incapable of countering what defenses are taking away and leaving open by shading to our very clear tendencies. The players aren't dumb, they know the playcalling and scheme is awful. Our awful OC has hurt and hampered every aspect of what our offense is capable of doing.

Yes, DR has been bad the last 4 or 5 games. We are playing better competion, and they have the book on how to beat our few plays we try to run. Square peg, round hole. There is no innovation or adjustment by Shitterfield. We may not have awesome RB's, WR's or TE's, but they are much better than what this shit offensive "scheme" shows. O Line is not as bad as it is often made to look. No player will look good consistently when the opposing defense and DC has us scouted out to the 9's.

If Rhule is not enough of a leader to make the obvious coaching changes, then he is not the guy. I am now very skeptical that Rhule has it in him to make the necessary, and obvious changes. It is a travesty that with an incredible budget to hire an assistant staff, guys like Shitterfield, McGoober, and Mr Fat Diner dude were some of his hires. They have all failed miserably. A HC has to be man enough to admit his mistakes, and then adjust and improve. The university and program has the $ to do it, but does Rhule have the internal fortitude to do it. We are spending so much $ on every aspect to make us a top level program, that having shitty coaches and coordinators flies in the face of all the $ and efforts to make that all work like it should.

TBH this is such a clusterfuck that never should have sunk to this level. Rhule HAS to make, bare minimum, changes at OC, WR and Special teams coaches. I think Don R is OK as our O Line coach. But the 3 obvious floundering coaches need to be shitcanned and Rhule HAS to bring in guys who are not only at least average, but actually good at their jobs. We will see what Rhule has for cahones to do these things.

The thing that gives me hope is seeing what Rhule did after his second year at Temple. He completely overhauled the offense because he wasn't happy with the lack of physicality. He felt it lacked an identity. They also couldn't run the ball when they wanted to. In that instance, Satterfield remained as the OC to call the new offense, but he lost QB coaching duties. Glenn Thomas was hired to replace him in that regard. The RB coach wasn't retained, the WR coach was placed in a player development role, Satt was given RBs, Frisman Jackson was hired from NC State to take over WRs. The only positions still coached by their original coaches were the OL and the TEs. Granted, the above still doesn't involve a coordinator being fired, but it showed a coach willing to correct things, even after the team improved from 2-10 to 6-6. A different coach could have pointed to the season record and said "Progress".

I think Rhule can be locked in to a stubborn degree during the season. Unless news breaks today that Satt is out or something, I don't think he's one to can a coach midseason. Though after last night, I don't think anyone would blame him if he did. Unfortunately we likely have three more games ahead where we won't outwardly see things change. But a flurry of changes could happen in the off season.

 

[HerbRedman]

There is absolutely no pressure on him to make changes. He’s not fighting for an extension, his life, money etc. he can’t start the next season and don’t all over again with no threat to be fired.

I wouldn't agree with that. If you watch Rhule's press conferences, it's pretty obvious he feels the pressure inherent to this job. Rhule won't want to waste all of his goodwill with the fans.

If he goes 5-7 this year he'll feel ton of pressure. Even at 6-6 he will. It won't be the Brent Venables 'I have to fire this guy to save my job' pressure, but it's still pressure.

If he goes 5-7 he'll HAVE to make major changes. 6-6 as well. Go back to how Rhule was talking about expectations for this team preseason: his goal for the team was to be relevant and be in the discussion for the CFP as late in the season as possible (meaning probably 8-4 or 9-3). Rhule did not think this was a 5-7 or 6-6 team.

My point is, I think Rhule will make changes on his own.

 

[HerbRedman]

The thing that gives me hope is seeing what Rhule did after his second year at Temple.
I think Rhule can be locked in to a stubborn degree during the season.

Great post. Agree about the mid-season firing being not an option. I don't think it would be good for morale.

The elephant in the room here is that a lot of Satterfield's plays have been good: they were just (a) negated by a horrible ref call (b) negated by bad WR play, ball ripped by DB, bad perimeter blocking or (c) Dylan flat out not throwing to the open man.

My guess is the players all know A, B and C. I think they know they've let Satterfield down. I think they'd feel incredibly guilty if they got the OC fired mid-season.

(Rhule and Satt parting ways in DEC is completely different though).

 

[tman87]

The thing that gives me hope is seeing what Rhule did after his second year at Temple. He completely overhauled the offense because he wasn't happy with the lack of physicality. He felt it lacked an identity. They also couldn't run the ball when they wanted to. In that instance, Satterfield remained as the OC to call the new offense, but he lost QB coaching duties. Glenn Thomas was hired to replace him in that regard. The RB coach wasn't retained, the WR coach was placed in a player development role, Satt was given RBs, Frisman Jackson was hired from NC State to take over WRs. The only positions still coached by their original coaches were the OL and the TEs. Granted, the above still doesn't involve a coordinator being fired, but it showed a coach willing to correct things, even after the team improved from 2-10 to 6-6. A different coach could have pointed to the season record and said "Progress".

I think Rhule can be locked in to a stubborn degree during the season. Unless news breaks today that Satt is out or something, I don't think he's one to can a coach midseason. Though after last night, I don't think anyone would blame him if he did. Unfortunately we likely have three more games ahead where we won't outwardly see things change. But a flurry of changes could happen in the off season.

Good points and info. I agree that Rhule will shitcan Satt mid season. But Satt needs to be gone as soon as the season is over. Rhule better have feelers out right now for who we can hire for our OC.

Great post. Agree about the mid-season firing being not an option. I don't think it would be good for morale.

The elephant in the room here is that a lot of Satterfield's plays have been good: they were just (a) negated by a horrible ref call (b) negated by bad WR play, ball ripped by DB, bad perimeter blocking or (c) Dylan flat out not throwing to the open man.

My guess is the players all know A, B and C. I think they know they've let Satterfield down. I think they'd feel incredibly guilty if they got the OC fired mid-season.

(Rhule and Satt parting ways in DEC is completely different though).

Disagree that Satt has called many good plays. Earlier in the year, against mostly weaker competition, the offense looked better (still not nearly good enough), and here and there Satt dialed up a real nice play. But he has no idea how to weave a good gameplan, and is awful at adjustments, in-game or between games. We have seen ample proof of this at this point.

But as the season progressed and teams scouted us better, Satt made little to no adjustments, and has been thoroughly outcoached/out schemed in all of those games. All of Satt's tendencies are plain as day, and opposing OC's have the book on him (it is a short book as Satt has a shallow playlist he tries) it is just a shit show of play calling and scheme that is on Satt. He doesn't have it to be a P4 OC. And being paid top ten OC $ - it makes it even worse. Dude has killed any progress our offense and younger players could have been making. Plus saddling us with a much higher likelihood of ending the season on 6 straight losses (again!).

 

[HerbRedman]

Disagree that Satt has called many good plays.

Hey, I'm the guy who thinks he's been terrible and needs to be fired!

My point is that the players might see it as 'we really let this guy down.' I'm one of the few posters that actually puts blame on the players. Most of our idiot fans think it's 99% on the coaches and that is really dumb. Our players have been terrible at executing this yr.

 

[HerbRedman]

But as the season progressed and teams scouted us better, Satt made little to no adjustments, and has been thoroughly outcoached/out schemed in all of those games. All of Satt's tendencies are plain as day, and opposing OC's have the book on him (it is a short book as Satt has a shallow playlist he tries) it is just a shit show of play calling and scheme that is on Satt. He doesn't have it to be a P4 OC.

Agreed 1000%. That's why I've said 9,000 times that he needs to be fired. His offense is terrible. He puts players in position to fail or at very least not shine. Couldn't get a run game established.

His one job this year was basically to not get Dylan lost in the process. That involved a running game, short passes, develop 7-8 go-to plays, etc....he's failed on every count this yr.

 

[Pro_V_DMB]

Raiola would absolutely end up in a G6 conference if he leaves

Jesus. And I thought reading thru Tater Island was painful. This is painfully dumb.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Hey, I'm the guy who thinks he's been terrible and needs to be fired!

My point is that the players might see it as 'we really let this guy down.' I'm one of the few posters that actually puts blame on the players. Most of our idiot fans think it's 99% on the coaches and that is really dumb. Our players have been terrible at executing this yr.

the execution still falls on the coaches. the offense looks disorganized and like they are playing at half speed. there's no way they execute well in practice and then look this bad in games. they execute this poorly because that's how they are being coached to execute, or they are being allowed to.

the perimeter blocking is the perfect example. they don't block well because the effort is terrible. with a bye week and only 3 games left they need to open up the WR jobs to all the WRs who have been redshirting. whoever is willing to block gets to play. If banks and Neyor can't find the motivation to block someone, they need to sit

the old saying is "either you are coaching it, or allowing it." either way this abortion of an offense falls on the coaches

 

[tman87]

Hey, I'm the guy who thinks he's been terrible and needs to be fired!

My point is that the players might see it as 'we really let this guy down.' I'm one of the few posters that actually puts blame on the players. Most of our idiot fans think it's 99% on the coaches and that is really dumb. Our players have been terrible at executing this yr.

I'm sure the players are at the very least dissapointed at the results. One of the worst offenses in CFB... again. But if they were THAT concerned about it, their effort would be better.

I think it is more likely the players know they are out-schemed by opposing DC's, and have lost faith most of what Satt calls is going to work. Satt is the anchor, the players are the chain connected to the anchor.

 

[SolichFan1987]

There’s other ways to apply pressure for Rhule to fire Satt

I’m listening

 

[Gman1228]

Point to me the post where I’ve absolved Matt Rhule of any sins here. He absolutely owns this and I’ve said as much.

I don’t buy the idea that Matt Rhule doesn’t give a shit about how good we are because his money is guaranteed.

Had he not cared about coaching football he could have sat his happy ass in North Carolina and raked in the same amount of money from the Panthers.

He wants to coach, I agree. That doesn’t mean he has the urgency needed for this job. He’s fat and happy and what happens at Nebraska means little to his future in the grand scheme of things.

He has 0 pressure to make necessary changes to win and it’s obvious he doesn’t have a clue what to do anyway. If he did, he wouldn’t have started with this abortion of a staff. He would’ve have hand picked Jeff Simms as his QB. He wouldn’t constantly clamor for this NFL model or make remarks that oh gee, it’s the Big Ten, every game is going to be close. The games are close because we fucking suck not because the league is some juggernaut.

 

[HughJanus]

Stole this depressing comment from Reddit:

I’ve seen this movie before. Next year he’s forced to make staff changes and goes out and gets a Whipple or Diaco…someone with a seemingly decent pedigree at other places who will be proclaimed to be a program savior. They’ll start out with a couple of great games against lesser opponents and everyone will declare that we are back.

Then they’ll start playing teams with a pulse and the wheels will fall off. Coach Rhule becomes a dead man walking as we all start speculating on who the next coach will be.

The new coach is hired and we’ll spend the 2025-2026 offseason singing his praises because he will be a guy who really gets it. We’ll see comments about how he’s fixing everything that was broken with Rhule.

And then the 2026 season will be played, we will lose a lot of games and blame Rhule’s leftover players. It’s another “year zero” some will say.

By 2027, we’ll be back to this point again, realizing that it’s not working.

If the 90s were football heaven this is football hell, and it will probably stay this way so long as that stadium is sold out and these 18-23 year old kids are constantly told how much they’re a disappointment for not living up to a “standard” that’s never coming back.

 

[nscottie]

https://mikefarrellsports.com/college/matt-rhule-is-enabling-marcus-satterfields-indefensible-destruction-of-dylan-raiola

 

[brnred1989]

Let’s assume Rhule parts ways with Satt at the conclusion of this season.

Who does he hire?

1. Promote Glenn Thomas to full-time OC.
2. Darrin Hinshaw
3. Casey Woods
4. Mach Leftwich
5. Tim Cramsey

Joe Moorehead at Akron, Dana H, Brennan Marion, Jake Peetz, Mike Bloomgren, Darin Hinshaw at UCF, Jeff Nixon (would be far from my first choice). We are paying top 10 $ and will continue to do so, but our ROI is poor to say the least!

 

[CornFed Gregger]

the execution still falls on the coaches. the offense looks disorganized and like they are playing at half speed. there's no way they execute well in practice and then look this bad in games. they execute this poorly because that's how they are being coached to execute, or they are being allowed to.

the perimeter blocking is the perfect example. they don't block well because the effort is terrible. with a bye week and only 3 games left they need to open up the WR jobs to all the WRs who have been redshirting. whoever is willing to block gets to play. If banks and Neyor can't find the motivation to block someone, they need to sit

the old saying is "either you are coaching it, or allowing it." either way this abortion of an offense falls on the coaches

Exactly this. I see a lot of ppl blaming Raiola but I think it’s more on the guy who is teaching a shitty scheme. I imagine it a change could be a night & day difference like with what we saw from Chinander to Busch to Tony white.

I’ve been on a couple teams where players lose faith in what’s being taught/emphasized/scheme & are simply going thru the motions & that’s the vibe I got yesterday. When guys are given proof that it works, the buy in is there & it’s easy for players to set their egos aside & do the dirty work like perimeter blocking cuz they believe it’ll pay off later.

 

[HerbRedman]

the old saying is "either you are coaching it, or allowing it." either way this abortion of an offense falls on the coaches

Agreed

They allow terrible execution each week

 

[HerbRedman]

I'm sure the players are at the very least dissapointed at the results. One of the worst offenses in CFB... again. But if they were THAT concerned about it, their effort would be better.

Agreed. If they wanted to fight for Satt they certainly would have fought harder yesterday