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Honestly, have you been that impressed with Rhule since he got here?



It’s funny to see the local media finally getting "tough" and asking critical questions just 19 games into this new regime. Yes, there have been some challenging outcomes, but where was this scrutiny during Frost's five years? It seems like they were more focused on hyping him up so they could sell more Frost "superhero" comic books rather than holding him accountable for the consistently poor results. Now, all of a sudden, they’re eager to critique, but it feels like that level of critical engagement was sorely missing when it was truly needed, when Frost was shitting all over this program.
 
I understand fans being concerned after last Saturday, but I haven't heard any of this prior to what happened Saturday. The only thing(s) I watched people bitch about was Satterfield and Foley.

I'm not out on him. I'm paying more attention now though. Clock management at the end of halves has been bad the whole time he's been here. There have definitely been positives too however. Pass rush lead the big ten in sacks coming into Saturday, and I think OL recruiting has been good, have to wait and see on the young guys though. My prediction / hope was 7-8 wins this year. Still feels like something they can get done and I'd call that a successful year.
 
What is Rhule actually doing besides a lot of talking and selling?

Offesne? We have an archaic offense with little to no talent. No run game to speak of or explosive players to scare other teams.

Special Teams? Don’t think we need to even speak on that.

Defense? This is the part of the team I’m most excited about but it seems like Rhule is now meddling and messing that up. We still lack any true difference makers and melt down at the first site of adversity.

Outside of any easy schedule I’m struggling to see how this team is any better than we were in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023.
 
He got Dylan. Okay, that's good.

The defense was awesome last year, but how much of that what Rhule and how much of that was White?

We had a terrible collapse towards the end of last season to make a bowl. Not saying it will happen again this season, but if we lose out (holy moly) or if we win only 1 more game remaining on the schedule, are you really happy or impressed by the work?

A shit ton of us (outside of the sunshine pumpers) thought Rhule brought in a very underwhelming, inexperienced staff kinda like, I don't know, what Frost did. A lot of us thought that was a joke too and looky looky it was.

The recruiting rankings from what I understand is pretty similar to what Frost and Riley did.

Rhule thought Jeff freaking Sims was a sunday QB. He only turned out to be the worst QB in program history.

I get people don't want to be negative to just be negative, but couldn't one say Rhule has been far more disappointing thus far than good? I would say so.
Bert, let’s go find a barn and have some rough sects like the ole gladiators did back in Rome times thanks gbr
 
I think Rhule needs to fundamentally change the way he approaches building a program. When he was at Temple and Baylor, NIL didnt exist and the portal opened a year before he left for the NFL. Taking a bunch of 4th and 5th year players that have done a bunch a losing and think you can "develop" them into a consistent winner seems like it has a very low ceiling. He has maxed out what this core group of players can achieve. Not losing upper-classmen to portal isnt necessarily a badge of honor...maybe no one wanted them?

With the revenue sharing starting next year, I hope he adjusts his philosphy in terms of program building. As Indianus proved, bringing in transfers works if you bring in the right transfers with the right coaches.
You left out the part about 13 of the Indianus transfers played multiple years for Cignetti at James Madison. That’s not even close to a typical transfer situation. It’s actually a huge outlier. Those guys came in and already knew what the head coach wanted to do and his expectations.
 
  • We're still under 2 years with him. He has shown that he wants to build a solid foundation of good players and a lot of non-coaching staff decisions have really shown we're working towards that.
  • He doesn't hate the press or the local fanbase and shows he wants to be part of the culture.
  • He's holding his staff accountable for how the players go through things, as in run drills with them or stay in the dorms. 'Lead by what I do, not what I say.'
  • He's using the transfer portal and he's using ways to expand the roster to bring in solid depth.

That's a good starting point for what we need. Has it been disappointing so far with the on-the-field results? Yep.

But I'm going to mark that up as the college football game has changed since Rhule was at Baylor and he's still figuring out how to take on a bigger-boy conference with now multiple types of play (West Coast is more offense, midwest is more defense/control the clock) as well as the different elements of weather and how to use that to his advantage. Say what you want about Ferentz, but he knows how to use the elements of Cockeye and Nebraska to his advantage in gameplay.

I'm still N on him.
The two biggest issues I have is our special teams and game management under Rhule. Most good coaches take care of those two things. Both have cost us the last two years.
 
You left out the part about 13 of the Indianus transfers played multiple years for Cignetti at James Madison. That’s not even close to a typical transfer situation. It’s actually a huge outlier. Those guys came in and already knew what the head coach wanted to do and his expectations.
This is definitely an advantage in this day of the transfer portal of hiring a coach that is already coaching in college and can bring players with him, as opposed to an NFL coach who can't bring anyone with him.

There's something to be said for bringing players with you that have experienced winning. It's not a guaranteed success, but there's something to be said for having a winning mentality, regardless of the level it's at. That's why NDSU kids always had confidence when they'd play Power 5 schools.
 
You left out the part about 13 of the Indianus transfers played multiple years for Cignetti at James Madison. That’s not even close to a typical transfer situation. It’s actually a huge outlier. Those guys came in and already knew what the head coach wanted to do and his expectations.
he also left out the part where us tPBers are gonna find a barn & do the chicken dance
 
I absolutely love who he is and what he says, I love what he does off the field, I think he’s totally authentic and his personality and leadership style are exactly what NU needs, but I’m getting a little antsy about what we’ve seen on the field so far.
husker 12, i agree ! Not even 2 years in, let’s just drink some Old Mud and try and not miss the toilet bowel when poopin
 
I absolutely love who he is and what he says, I love what he does off the field, I think he’s totally authentic and his personality and leadership style are exactly what NU needs, but I’m getting a little antsy about what we’ve seen on the field so far.
He’s a great coach to have as the face of the program. He’s fucked up with sims & Satterfield but he could win 6 games & that will still be improvement in every year despite those mistakes.

It still is extremely discouraging to have what should be a year 1 type loss in year 2 & makes me wonder if some of the same behind the scenes bs is haunting us once again.
 
There is morons on this board that think those 4th and 5th year players have talent and just need developed.
This fire-all-coaches-a-palooza has brought out all the morons in full force.

The hip thing now is to demand each position coach be part Vince Lombardi and part alchemist/Harry Potter wizard. "We signed a backup OG from Oklahoma St and Donnie Raiola hasn't turned him into Will Shields yet."

As we're seeing with Jahmal Banks...by the time you make it all the way to 5th yr SR, you're pretty much done developing. And you're certainly not adding new skillsets at this point (like perimeter blocking).

If you're at 4 yrs in college, you're not changing any more. You're done developing.

But our moron fanbase makes their demands that Rhule/Knighton/McGuire/Butler etc take 4th yr guys that are duds and "coach them up" to All Big Ten level.
 
I don’t really think it’s much more complicated than the veteran leadership on the team are simply losers. It’s infectious on a sideline. They play like they hear people laughing at them
Hate to say it but @BIG TONE SOPRANO has been saying that most of these 5th yr Frost guys are absolute losers.

Sure looked right during the Indianus game.

I think we saw it with Jojo Doman and were hoping we'd have like 10 of those. But alas...no. They fuckin shit their pants at 52,000 seat Bloomington.
 
This fire-all-coaches-a-palooza has brought out all the morons in full force.

The hip thing now is to demand each position coach be part Vince Lombardi and part alchemist/Harry Potter wizard. "We signed a backup OG from Oklahoma St and Donnie Raiola hasn't turned him into Will Shields yet."

As we're seeing with Jahmal Banks...by the time you make it all the way to 5th yr SR, you're pretty much done developing. And you're certainly not adding new skillsets at this point (like perimeter blocking).

If you're at 4 yrs in college, you're not changing any more. You're done developing.

But our moron fanbase makes their demands that Rhule/Knighton/McGuire/Butler etc take 4th yr guys that are duds and "coach them up" to All Big Ten level.
I don't believe for a second that guys like Banks are incapable of blocking. Mistakes that result in penalties or complete whiffs come from things like poor technique being taught, lack of reps in practice, and being unsure of what they should be doing.
 
I don't believe for a second that guys like Banks are incapable of blocking. Mistakes that result in penalties or complete whiffs come from things like poor technique being taught, lack of reps in practice, and being unsure of what they should be doing.
None of our portal transfers are "incapable"...the question is, will they magically become the player you want them to be when they play for NU? The vast majority of transfer portal guys just stay the same guy (though they might look worse bc Big Ten is harder than Big 12 etc). I present to you:

Ochaun Mathis
Jeff Sims
Arik Gilbert
Markese Stepp
Tyreke Johnson
Jahkeem Green
Kaine Williams
Devin Drew
Hunter Anthony
Stephon Wynne
Ezra Miller


I'm kind of done with expecting these 3 and 4-yr players to transform into a new guy just because they're wearing a Nebraska jersey. I think if you get a FR or SO those guys can still develop. But it seems to me most guys who have been in college for 4 yrs aren't changing by the time they get to you. That can be a good thing if you're Cam Ward or Samouri Toure. But a bad thing if you're Jeff Sims hoping he'll "develop". Most of these guys don't.
 
None of our portal transfers are "incapable"...the question is, will they magically become the player you want them to be when they play for NU? The vast majority of transfer portal guys just stay the same guy (though they might look worse bc Big Ten is harder than Big 12 etc). I present to you:

Ochaun Mathis
Jeff Sims
Arik Gilbert
Markese Stepp
Tyreke Johnson
Jahkeem Green
Kaine Williams
Devin Drew
Hunter Anthony
Stephon Wynne


I'm kind of done with expecting these 3 and 4-yr players to transform into a new guy just because they're wearing a Nebraska jersey. I think if you get a FR or SO those guys can still develop. But it seems to me most guys who have been in college for 4 yrs aren't changing by the time they get to you. That can be a good thing if you're Cam Ward or Samouri Toure. But a bad thing if you're Jeff Sims hoping he'll "develop". Most of these guys don't.
What a list lol. I thought Mathis and Drew were going to absolutely transform our DL.
 

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