GRADE MATT RHULE YEAR 2 REGULAR SEASON

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[ChocaEgg]

B-

If he would have made better decisions before taking the job probably could inch higher to a B or B+. Satterfield has always been what he was, these last two years just unfortunately validated it. I'm not mad about the Foley hire, just didn't know it would go that bad. White who was the only one Rhule didn't have a previous coordinator experience with is the best hire on that level which is interesting.

Love you man, but given the roster and the fairly easy schedule, a likely losing record earns a B-?

 

[Mavsker]

I was never arguing in the first place. I'm just trying to figure out what your grading scale is based on.

You guys are the ones telling people they're idiots for grading above a D.

You guys? I gave him a C-
The only person I called an idiot (tard) was the person who gave him an A-

 

[Jim14510]

You guys? I gave him a C-
The only person I called an idiot (tard) was the person who gave him an A-

I probably mixed up you and Choca posts.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I probably mixed up you and Choca posts.

 

[Flabio]

Love you man, but given the roster and the fairly easy schedule, a likely losing record earns a B-?

You will upgrade your grade to at least a C or else you will never live down this shame.

 

[ChocaEgg]

You will upgrade your grade to at least a C or else you will never live down this shame.

 

[ShortSideOption]

Love you man, but given the roster and the fairly easy schedule, a likely losing record earns a B-?

Easy schedule for who, our opponents? Nebraska was one of the easiest games on every conference teams schedule. We haven't been to 6 wins since 2016, Rhule literally got us to this mark for only the second time in a decade and we have people saying it's not good enough. Can't just snap your fingers and say "we are Nebraska don't you remember" in 2024.

Should this be the standard? No. Is this our second best season in the last decade? Tough pill to swallow here, but yes. Take a deep breath, stay the course.

 

[Flabio]

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

This is a completely different argument than the one we're having

I'm not sure if anyone besides you two is sure what argument you're having.

 

[Mavsker]

I'm not sure if anyone besides you two is sure what argument you're having.

I'll summarize, I know it's not easy to follow an argument you're not a part of.

Choc gave HCMR a D grade
Choc said his preseason expectation for wins was anywhere from 4 to 7
Jim said basically "well we won 6 so that's above average on your scale, that means you need to grade at least a C"
This logic is obviously absurd

 

[gtlacey]

Love you man, but given the roster and the fairly easy schedule, a likely losing record earns a B-?

Choca, you might be taking crazy pills. ESPN FPI has our SOS at 10th (see link below). I don’t think anyone thinks the 10th hardest slate with two or three playoff teams is a “fairly easy schedule.”

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[Jim14510]

I'll summarize, I know it's not easy to follow an argument you're not a part of.

Choc gave HCMR a D grade
Choc said his preseason expectation for wins was anywhere from 4 to 7
Jim said basically "well we won 6 so that's above average on your scale, that means you need to grade at least a C"
This is obviously absurd

Lol

I didn't say he needed to grade a C. I'm just trying to figure out how he gets to a D and calling people idiots for being higher than that.

I don't understand having an expectation of 4-7 wins preseason and getting to 6 results in a D grade.

 

[Mavsker]

I don't understand having an expectation of 4-7 wins preseason and getting to 6 results in a D grade.

I know you don't understand this, which is what we've been trying to explain

Let's try an extreme example

Let's say most people expect Georgia to win 10 games next year. But I think, for whatever reason, that Georgia is going to be absolute dogshit. I think they're going to go either 0-12 or 1-11. As it turns out, Georgia goes 2-10.
Do I need to give Kirby Smart a C or better, because his 2-10 record was better than my rock bottom low expectations, or could I give him an F?

 

[Flabio]

Mark it a C

 

[cwessel76]

^^^this thread

 

[gtlacey]

Choca, you might be taking crazy pills. ESPN FPI has our SOS at 10th (see link below). I don’t think anyone thinks the 10th hardest slate with two or three playoff teams is a “fairly easy schedule.”

2024 Resume College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2024 Resume College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance of the season.

www.espn.com

We went over this exact thing last Saturday night, Choca. I know you’re better than this.

I’m fine giving Rhule a bad grade on the year for his handling of Satt. But 6-6 this year on a harder schedule is a an improvement:
2022 SOR: 91
2023 SOR: 81
2024 SOR: 54

Most fans see this improvement and so they give Rhule a better grade than you do. That’s not retarded behavior.

Ohio St went 10-2 this year. I would give Day a C- or worse. He was born on third is standing between second and third right now.

Rhule was born on first and is standing close to second now.

 

[Jim14510]

I know you don't understand this, which is what we've been trying to explain

Let's try an extreme example

Let's say most people expect Georgia to win 10 games next year. But I think, for whatever reason, that Georgia is going to be absolute dogshit. I think they're going to go either 0-12 or 1-11. As it turns out, Georgia goes 2-10.
Do I need to give Kirby Smart a C or better, because his 2-10 record was better than my rock bottom low expectations, or could I give him an F?

How would you rank Kirby in that scenario? You're the one predicting 1-11 at best. You must have had reasons for that. Did you find out everyone on the team has cancer? If everyone got cancer and Kirby pulled in students to go 2-12 you'd probably give him an A.

Imagine a teacher gives you an assignment and says these are the 12 things I want you to do for your assignment. I expect you to get at least 4. I'll be amazed if you get more than 7.

You get 6 and teacher gives you a D.

 

[Mavsker]

How would you rank Kirby in that scenario? You're the one predicting 1-11 at best. You must have had reasons for that. Did you find out everyone on the team has cancer? If everyone got cancer and Kirby pulled in students to go 2-12 you'd probably give him an A.

Imagine a teacher gives you an assignment and says these are the 12 things I want you to do for your assignment. I expect you to get at least 4. I'll be amazed if you get more than 7.

You get 6 and teacher gives you a D.

Give me a break dude. If Kirby Smart goes 2-10 at Georgia he gets an F. Choc's 4-7 prediction doesn't mean he's happy with 7 wins. This isn't 5% as complicated as you're making it.

 

[Jim14510]

Give me a break dude. If Kirby Smart goes 2-10 at Georgia he gets an F. Choc's 4-7 prediction doesn't mean he's happy with a 7. This isn't 5% as complicated as you're making it.

Lol I think you're making it more complicated. It's Chocas grade. He had the expectation of 4-7. Why would his expectations not factor in to his grade?

Absolutely zero people are predicting Georgia to go 1-11. That would require some insane event. Its a silly hypothetical.