Coaching Board

[Steveweiser316]

If the Fat Man at Arkansas keeps winning I wouldn’t be surprised if his name pops up

 

[Lionsfan93]

Freeze is an absolute nonstarter at Nebraska

Why?

 

[Pipe Line]

we should hire saban…just spit ballin

Urban or Saban I'm back in. Shit I'll take Belichik

 

[David Webb]

Why?

Because Nebraska is a holy state and can’t have a sinner lead the program.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Why?

You ever heard of a puritanical man name Dr. Tom Osborne?

I don't care about Freeze's past transgressions with the NCAA and wouldn't mind if he fine tuned his operation to not get caught and get top talent to Lincoln, but the modal Nebraska fan is not me

 

[Bootleg11]

I don't think Frost is gone unless we have an 07/17 collapse down the stretch (and don't want him gone FWIW), but give me Chadwell if we get to that.

I think that offense would be awesome at Nebraska.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Cool



Hook em

Fuck Texas

 

[Pipe Line]

I think that offense would be awesome at Nebraska.

What makes you confident it would work?

 

[huskerj12]

The next hire is going to have to thread a very thin needle. First and foremost they have to be a good coach, obviously. But it's going to take some very good PR to keep the fans onboard when/if Frost has to be fired. That's why I don't think anyone with scandals in their past or a flashy "look at me" persona will get chosen.

For example, if we hired Hugh Freeze, a large segment of the fanbase would immediately say "we fired the struggling hometown hero in favor of the guy who got caught paying players and hiring prostitutes, we're now a shady win-at-all-costs program, I'm out." If we hired Lane Kiffin a segment of the fanbase would say "this guy has been a flaky sleaze earlier in his career, I'm out."

I'm not even necessarily arguing in favor of those opinions, but they have to be considered with this next hypothetical hire. The fanbase is going to be some mixture of apathetic, defeated, depressed, and angry if the Frost era goes down in flames. For understandable reasons, he was built up as The Great Last Hope for NU football and the final link to the glory years after two decades of mediocrity and failure. It's obviously hard for people to give up on that, and it will probably be hard for people to get back up off the mat after we have to admit to another failure - the most painful one yet - and reset.

So it's gonna be tough to get it right, and to be honest I am in the camp of people who don't think we are an attractive job anymore. That doesn't mean we just stick with what isn't working, but I do think it means the upper ranks of the coaching world will have zero interest. We have money and facilities and fans, but those two decades of failure are starting to weigh prettyyy heavily at the same time. It's easy to say "we have to hire a proven P5 coach," but if a P5 coach is a proven success I don't know that NU will look like an upgrade to them. That will leave us with mediocre or unsuccessful P5 coaches, hot up and comers from the G5/FCS level, or coordinators. A kinda scary crapshoot.

All that leads me to think our best bet going forward will be with a confident (but drama free) guy with a solid fundamentals-driven system that he knows how to teach like the back of his hand, and for once a willingness to bring in the very best assistants he can find. I genuinely think a lot of NU fans are going to be going through the stages of grief for awhile after this is all said and done, it's gonna feel like it's alllllll over to quite a few people. I don't foresee them get lifted out of the doldrums by a young flavor-of-the-week or anyone who seems shady or inauthentic. I CAN see them starting to regain hope by watching somebody humbly come in and keep their head down and start putting solid fundamentally sound and smart teams on the field. Who is that person? I have absolutely no idea. Could this entire post be full of shit by Thanksgiving weekend? Of course.

 

[Havoc34]

The next hire is going to have to thread a very thin needle. First and foremost they have to be a good coach, obviously. But it's going to take some very good PR to keep the fans onboard when/if Frost has to be fired. That's why I don't think anyone with scandals in their past or a flashy "look at me" persona will get chosen.

For example, if we hired Hugh Freeze, a large segment of the fanbase would immediately say "we fired the struggling hometown hero in favor of the guy who got caught paying players and hiring prostitutes, we're now a shady win-at-all-costs program, I'm out." If we hired Lane Kiffin a segment of the fanbase would say "this guy has been a flaky sleaze earlier in his career, I'm out."

I'm not even necessarily arguing in favor of those opinions, but they have to be considered with this next hypothetical hire. The fanbase is going to be some mixture of apathetic, defeated, depressed, and angry if the Frost era goes down in flames. For understandable reasons, he was built up as The Great Last Hope for NU football and the final link to the glory years after two decades of mediocrity and failure. It's obviously hard for people to give up on that, and it will probably be hard for people to get back up off the mat after we have to admit to another failure - the most painful one yet - and reset.

So it's gonna be tough to get it right, and to be honest I am in the camp of people who don't think we are an attractive job anymore. That doesn't mean we just stick with what isn't working, but I do think it means the upper ranks of the coaching world will have zero interest. We have money and facilities and fans, but those two decades of failure are starting to weigh prettyyy heavily at the same time. It's easy to say "we have to hire a proven P5 coach," but if a P5 coach is a proven success I don't know that NU will look like an upgrade to them. That will leave us with mediocre or unsuccessful P5 coaches, hot up and comers from the G5/FCS level, or coordinators. A kinda scary crapshoot.

All that leads me to think our best bet going forward will be with a confident (but drama free) guy with a solid fundamentals-driven system that he knows how to teach like the back of his hand, and for once a willingness to bring in the very best assistants he can find. I genuinely think a lot of NU fans are going to be going through the stages of grief for awhile after this is all said and done, it's gonna feel like it's alllllll over to quite a few people. I don't foresee them get lifted out of the doldrums by a young flavor-of-the-week or anyone who seems shady or inauthentic. I CAN see them starting to regain hope by watching somebody humbly come in and keep their head down and start putting solid fundamentally sound and smart teams on the field. Who is that person? I have absolutely no idea. Could this entire post be full of shit by Thanksgiving weekend? Of course.

I have the upmost faith in Turd to conduct a thorough and calculated search. He’s not going to be pigeon holed into a single candidate.

 

[Fargo Husker]

The next hire is going to have to thread a very thin needle. First and foremost they have to be a good coach, obviously. But it's going to take some very good PR to keep the fans onboard when/if Frost has to be fired. That's why I don't think anyone with scandals in their past or a flashy "look at me" persona will get chosen.

For example, if we hired Hugh Freeze, a large segment of the fanbase would immediately say "we fired the struggling hometown hero in favor of the guy who got caught paying players and hiring prostitutes, we're now a shady win-at-all-costs program, I'm out." If we hired Lane Kiffin a segment of the fanbase would say "this guy has been a flaky sleaze earlier in his career, I'm out."

I'm not even necessarily arguing in favor of those opinions, but they have to be considered with this next hypothetical hire. The fanbase is going to be some mixture of apathetic, defeated, depressed, and angry if the Frost era goes down in flames. For understandable reasons, he was built up as The Great Last Hope for NU football and the final link to the glory years after two decades of mediocrity and failure. It's obviously hard for people to give up on that, and it will probably be hard for people to get back up off the mat after we have to admit to another failure - the most painful one yet - and reset.

So it's gonna be tough to get it right, and to be honest I am in the camp of people who don't think we are an attractive job anymore. That doesn't mean we just stick with what isn't working, but I do think it means the upper ranks of the coaching world will have zero interest. We have money and facilities and fans, but those two decades of failure are starting to weigh prettyyy heavily at the same time. It's easy to say "we have to hire a proven P5 coach," but if a P5 coach is a proven success I don't know that NU will look like an upgrade to them. That will leave us with mediocre or unsuccessful P5 coaches, hot up and comers from the G5/FCS level, or coordinators. A kinda scary crapshoot.

All that leads me to think our best bet going forward will be with a confident (but drama free) guy with a solid fundamentals-driven system that he knows how to teach like the back of his hand, and for once a willingness to bring in the very best assistants he can find. I genuinely think a lot of NU fans are going to be going through the stages of grief for awhile after this is all said and done, it's gonna feel like it's alllllll over to quite a few people. I don't foresee them get lifted out of the doldrums by a young flavor-of-the-week or anyone who seems shady or inauthentic. I CAN see them starting to regain hope by watching somebody humbly come in and keep their head down and start putting solid fundamentally sound and smart teams on the field. Who is that person? I have absolutely no idea. Could this entire post be full of shit by Thanksgiving weekend? Of course.

I definitely agree with your point about the NU job not having the luster it used to. That’s why I have Stoops, Petersen, O’Brien, and Malzahn on the top of my list. All successful coaches with P5 experience, but also at a place where Nebraska WOULD be an upgrade over where they are now. Obviously with Stoops and Petersen a lot depends on their desire to get back into coaching and what other jobs are available.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

I think that offense would be awesome at Nebraska.

For sure. I heard an interview with Chadwell this offseason and was really impressed. He has a history of getting the most of a talent, and has been successful both 1-AA and at Coastal.

If I'm Frost, though I just poach Korn from them to come coach QBs and help with the offense.

 

[huskerj12]

I definitely agree with your point about the NU job not having the luster it used to. That’s why I have Stoops, Petersen, O’Brien, and Malzahn on the top of my list. All successful coaches with P5 experience, but also at a place where Nebraska WOULD be an upgrade over where they are now. Obviously with Stoops and Petersen a lot depends on their desire to get back into coaching and what other jobs are available.

Yup it would be a miracle of timing/opportunity to get Stoops or Petersen especially. That would be incredible haha.

 

[David Webb]

I have the upmost faith in Turd to conduct a thorough and calculated search. He’s not going to be pigeon holed into a single candidate.

You think he has more power than the previous athletic directors, or is less prone to listen to those funding his operation?

 

[HuskerHomie]

The next hire is going to have to thread a very thin needle. First and foremost they have to be a good coach, obviously. But it's going to take some very good PR to keep the fans onboard when/if Frost has to be fired. That's why I don't think anyone with scandals in their past or a flashy "look at me" persona will get chosen.

For example, if we hired Hugh Freeze, a large segment of the fanbase would immediately say "we fired the struggling hometown hero in favor of the guy who got caught paying players and hiring prostitutes, we're now a shady win-at-all-costs program, I'm out." If we hired Lane Kiffin a segment of the fanbase would say "this guy has been a flaky sleaze earlier in his career, I'm out."

I'm not even necessarily arguing in favor of those opinions, but they have to be considered with this next hypothetical hire. The fanbase is going to be some mixture of apathetic, defeated, depressed, and angry if the Frost era goes down in flames. For understandable reasons, he was built up as The Great Last Hope for NU football and the final link to the glory years after two decades of mediocrity and failure. It's obviously hard for people to give up on that, and it will probably be hard for people to get back up off the mat after we have to admit to another failure - the most painful one yet - and reset.

So it's gonna be tough to get it right, and to be honest I am in the camp of people who don't think we are an attractive job anymore. That doesn't mean we just stick with what isn't working, but I do think it means the upper ranks of the coaching world will have zero interest. We have money and facilities and fans, but those two decades of failure are starting to weigh prettyyy heavily at the same time. It's easy to say "we have to hire a proven P5 coach," but if a P5 coach is a proven success I don't know that NU will look like an upgrade to them. That will leave us with mediocre or unsuccessful P5 coaches, hot up and comers from the G5/FCS level, or coordinators. A kinda scary crapshoot.

All that leads me to think our best bet going forward will be with a confident (but drama free) guy with a solid fundamentals-driven system that he knows how to teach like the back of his hand, and for once a willingness to bring in the very best assistants he can find. I genuinely think a lot of NU fans are going to be going through the stages of grief for awhile after this is all said and done, it's gonna feel like it's alllllll over to quite a few people. I don't foresee them get lifted out of the doldrums by a young flavor-of-the-week or anyone who seems shady or inauthentic. I CAN see them starting to regain hope by watching somebody humbly come in and keep their head down and start putting solid fundamentally sound and smart teams on the field. Who is that person? I have absolutely no idea. Could this entire post be full of shit by Thanksgiving weekend? Of course.

You bring up some solid points.

I do think however, that our job was less attractive in yrs past cuz. Well we were cheap...to put it bluntly...

The fact that we opened the vault and paid SF 5mil per yr and had a good asst coach pool, makes thr NU job...an attractive one.


This was a less attractive job pre-Frost cuz we didn't pay the going rates for HC's...

It may surprise peeps how many more coaches ears perk up than before when u start throwing around 5 plus mil a yr to coach at NU, and a not very tough act to follow to find success..

 

[Havoc34]

You think he has more power than the previous athletic directors, or is less prone to listen to those funding his operation?

I think they have more trust and confidence in him to make a decision with freedom and flexibility. I think those in the money seats are more willing to listen to Turd tell them what needs to be done, instead of tell Turd what to do. Just a hunch.

 

[DrinkItIn]

I've spoken with a friend of Turd who played with him in the early '90s. He believes that Turd would have zero hesitation to cut Frost's bag if needed. However, he isn't going to do it w/o a replacement like Pederson's clusterfuck of a search. A replacement would be waiting in the wings if Frost is indeed relieved of his duties.

 

[Havoc34]

I've spoken with a friend of Turd who played with him in the early '90s. He believes that Turd would have zero hesitation to cut Frost's bag if needed. However, he isn't going to do it w/o a replacement like Pederson's clusterfuck of a search. A replacement would be waiting in the wings if Frost is indeed relieved of his duties.

It finally feels like there are grown ups in the room. (And yes I realize how many insisted that was the case last time as well.) Turd just has a much more calculated demeanor than did Moos and even Eichorst and Pederson for that matter.

 

[Cash68847]

If the Fat Man at Arkansas keeps winning I wouldn’t be surprised if his name pops up

Arkansas is his dream job. He grew up there. He said he wants it be his first and last head coaching job.

 

[Lionsfan93]

The next hire is going to have to thread a very thin needle. First and foremost they have to be a good coach, obviously. But it's going to take some very good PR to keep the fans onboard when/if Frost has to be fired. That's why I don't think anyone with scandals in their past or a flashy "look at me" persona will get chosen.

For example, if we hired Hugh Freeze, a large segment of the fanbase would immediately say "we fired the struggling hometown hero in favor of the guy who got caught paying players and hiring prostitutes, we're now a shady win-at-all-costs program, I'm out." If we hired Lane Kiffin a segment of the fanbase would say "this guy has been a flaky sleaze earlier in his career, I'm out."

I'm not even necessarily arguing in favor of those opinions, but they have to be considered with this next hypothetical hire. The fanbase is going to be some mixture of apathetic, defeated, depressed, and angry if the Frost era goes down in flames. For understandable reasons, he was built up as The Great Last Hope for NU football and the final link to the glory years after two decades of mediocrity and failure. It's obviously hard for people to give up on that, and it will probably be hard for people to get back up off the mat after we have to admit to another failure - the most painful one yet - and reset.

So it's gonna be tough to get it right, and to be honest I am in the camp of people who don't think we are an attractive job anymore. That doesn't mean we just stick with what isn't working, but I do think it means the upper ranks of the coaching world will have zero interest. We have money and facilities and fans, but those two decades of failure are starting to weigh prettyyy heavily at the same time. It's easy to say "we have to hire a proven P5 coach," but if a P5 coach is a proven success I don't know that NU will look like an upgrade to them. That will leave us with mediocre or unsuccessful P5 coaches, hot up and comers from the G5/FCS level, or coordinators. A kinda scary crapshoot.

All that leads me to think our best bet going forward will be with a confident (but drama free) guy with a solid fundamentals-driven system that he knows how to teach like the back of his hand, and for once a willingness to bring in the very best assistants he can find. I genuinely think a lot of NU fans are going to be going through the stages of grief for awhile after this is all said and done, it's gonna feel like it's alllllll over to quite a few people. I don't foresee them get lifted out of the doldrums by a young flavor-of-the-week or anyone who seems shady or inauthentic. I CAN see them starting to regain hope by watching somebody humbly come in and keep their head down and start putting solid fundamentally sound and smart teams on the field. Who is that person? I have absolutely no idea. Could this entire post be full of shit by Thanksgiving weekend? Of course.

I don't necessarily disagree with anything that you said. However, just winning will cure any and all of those concerns. Nebraska fans can pretend to be better than other fan bases, but at the end of the day, we just want to win. Hugh Freeze wins.