Busch

[nscottie]

I know a lot of people look at Mickey as a big loss, but Busch could arguably be just as big of loss he fixed special teams and got the defense back on track this season.

I think Busch is the bigger loss

 

[Drue629]

If Mickey wants to be a head coach he needs to go and do whats best for him. Tulane is calling. This might be his only chance. I don't blame him. Busch on the other hand...I think he was willing to stay in any roll so losing him really sucks. I think it would have been helpful to keep someone like him on staff for the transition.

 

[Chi7397]

We said the same exact thing that a “clean start was for the best” when Frost walked one of the best west coast recruiters out of the door and replaced the best WR coach in the nation with Troy Walters.

We’ve seen this movie before where the head coach thinks he can see things that nobody else can and hires a bunch of under qualified help.

Kinda weird how unbelievably positive you were about Scott Frost until literally this year and how you’re immediately negative on this staff before it’s even hired.

Why doesn’t this staff get the benefit of the doubt?

 

[herbsinator]

The point was that someone said “fresh start.” Which is exactly what we heard in 2017 to justify firing good coaches from the previous staff and replacing them with shite coaches.

Again… We’ve seen this movie. We know how it ends.

Were you in the room with Rhule and Mickey? Do you know for a fact that Mickey wants to stay? What if he said “give me $1.5m or I’m out”…keep him then? There are like a thousand different scenarios that could be playing out and we don’t have visibility into any of it. It’s unfair to draw conclusions at this point.

 

[huskersoup]

I think that is the assumption, but I’m not getting worked up either way yet until we see how it plays out.

I seriously doubt Robinson would be given full reign as DC, he’s not known as a tactician

 

[...TrueColors...]

I do agree with you that the hires so far do seem a little concerning. That being said, Frost was not known for his attention to details or for micromanaging. If Rhule is good at those things, I could see where a young impressionable staff could really work in the long run. Remember, he's not building for success in year one.

He’s taking a lot higher of a risk this way.

 

[...TrueColors...]

Were you in the room with Rhule and Mickey? Do you know for a fact that Mickey wants to stay? What if he said “give me $1.5m or I’m out”…keep him then? There are like a thousand different scenarios that could be playing out and we don’t have visibility into any of it. It’s unfair to draw conclusions at this point.

I’m not even talking about just Mickey. If he doesn’t do everything he can to retain him that’s flat out stupid though because there’s not a better WR coach in the nation than him.

But…. Mickey isn’t from the northeast and he didn’t go to Penn St. So I’m sure he’s not gonna make the cut here for Rhule. Like I said, hope the GA from UMass works out.

 

[Cash68847]

I do agree with you that the hires so far do seem a little concerning. That being said, Frost was not known for his attention to details or for micromanaging. If Rhule is good at those things, I could see where a young impressionable staff could really work in the long run. Remember, he's not building for success in year one.

I could never see Ryan Day and Jim Harbaugh taking this approach.

 

[Adolph Coors]

If Mickey wants to be a head coach he needs to go and do whats best for him. Tulane is calling. This might be his only chance. I don't blame him. Busch on the other hand...I think he was willing to stay in any roll so losing him really sucks. I think it would have been helpful to keep someone like him on staff for the transition.

Willie Fritz signed an extension today

 

[...TrueColors...]

Kinda weird how unbelievably positive you were about Scott Frost until literally this year and how you’re immediately negative on this staff before it’s even hired.

Why doesn’t this staff get the benefit of the doubt?

I’ve said for a long time on this board now that the only way to lower your risk with this type of thing is to hire the best help money can buy. I’ve yet to see Rhule do that here.

 

[herbsinator]

I’m not even talking about just Mickey. If he doesn’t do everything he can to retain him that’s flat out stupid though because there’s not a better WR coach in the nation than him.

But…. Mickey isn’t from the northeast and he didn’t go to Penn St. So I’m sure he’s not gonna make the cut here for Rhule. Like I said, hope the GA from UMass works out.

Name your top 5 WR coaches right now in order. How do you specifically know Mickey is the best other than he had some good press conferences?

 

[Drue629]

Willie Fritz signed an extension today

 

[huskersoup]

Were you in the room with Rhule and Mickey? Do you know for a fact that Mickey wants to stay? What if he said “give me $1.5m or I’m out”…keep him then? There are like a thousand different scenarios that could be playing out and we don’t have visibility into any of it. It’s unfair to draw conclusions at this point.

From what I’ve heard the ball was in Mickey’s court on staying on or not

 

[DuckSker]

How good was Robinson’s recruiting before he got to A&M? My 80 year old grandma could recruit with that oil money.

 

[ac husker]

Tell me a first year DL coach is what we need in the big ten. I’m old enough to remember a time when we called the big ten a LOS league. Entrusting one side of the LOS to a guy with basically no experience is absolutely stupid. Upper echelon stupid.

I’ve learned to let the process play out. I’ll either be disappointed or not but to get upset before anything happens is fighting yourself.

 

[Dell Husker]

If Mickey wants to be a head coach he needs to go and do whats best for him. Tulane is calling. This might be his only chance. I don't blame him. Busch on the other hand...I think he was willing to stay in any roll so losing him really sucks. I think it would have been helpful to keep someone like him on staff for the transition.

Tulane is closed

 

[BIGSTICK67]

I do agree with you that the hires so far do seem a little concerning. That being said, Frost was not known for his attention to details or for micromanaging. If Rhule is good at those things, I could see where a young impressionable staff could really work in the long run. Remember, he's not building for success in year one.

Good point. Something I hadn't really given thought to.

 

[herbsinator]

I could never see Ryan Day and Jim Harbaugh taking this approach.

Uh we have the longest streak of missing bowl games in the P5. Maybe OSU and Michigan aren’t the best comps for us.

 

[CornHub]

I could never see Ryan Day and Jim Harbaugh taking this approach.

Harbaugh literally did this last year with his DC.

 

[HerbRedman]

The point was that someone said “fresh start.” Which is exactly what we heard in 2017 to justify firing good coaches from the previous staff and replacing them with shite coaches.

Again… We’ve seen this movie. We know how it ends.

You gotta look at this from Matt Rhule's perspective. He's taking over a program that has gone 5-7, 4-8, 5-7, 4-8, 3-6, 3-9 and 4-8 in 7 of the last 8 seasons. How many coaches would you keep in this situation? There were people who seriously thought he'd retain 3-4 coaches from the current program. You know that was never gonna happen.

In 2017 Mike Riley was taking over a program that had won 9 games every year.

Totall different situations. As I said earlier.