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That’s fair. And we are all hoping they are at best 1-1 after their first 2 and things may implode.
And so it begins...(tracking Coach Prime decommits/transfers)
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And so it begins...(tracking Coach Prime decommits/transfers)
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Yes. I hope that we beat the absolute piss out of them in Lincoln and they lose the will to live after
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I was thinking that as well but their schedule is about as tough as it can be in the Big 12.
K St, UCF, Utah, KS, OK St.
They don't have Houston, AZ St, BYU, WV.
I'm assuming those will be on the bottom rung of the conference?
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When Shaduer goes out in Lincoln for the year, they're gonna have a bad time
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Some observations:
1. Wow
2. I'd love to see the responses to this from other Buffs fans
3. This CU fan has been there 95 months (8 yrs roughly). So they can't blame this stupidity on. Deion newbie fan. This is one of their own
4. Were NU fans this bad under Frost? We gave our share of morons, but I don't ever remember anyone saying we had top 15 talent/depth any of those delusional yrs. The hot takes in the Frost era were that NU might be the favrorite in the West IIRC
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The scariest thing is he believes that and isn't alone.
They honestly have zero depth, and are far away from elite starters. They have a top 5 QB and a very talented player that goes both ways but isn't elite on either side. They do have some more good players, but nothing close to elite, what maybe 3-4 draft picks, tops. Dude is way delusional if he thinks that the roster that has been slapped together during the Spring portal is going to be a top 15 team and headed to the playoffs. I don't think they will have a winning record.
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I think the style of play is right up their alley
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by Sean Keeler of the Denver Post
Not long ago, a big name, a football legend, was hired to make flowers bloom in a coaching graveyard. “He’s a Hail Mary,” they said. “So crazy, it just might work,” they said. “Why not? The school’s tried everything else,” they said.
He’d won big at his previous job. He had a plan. He made his kid the starting quarterback. He had another kid around constantly. His family took over the place. And that was cool, because, again, this was a big name, a winner, beloved by millions.
Then he lost.
Players, at first. Then coaches. Then games. Then more players.
Stories came out. Whispers got louder. There was buzz that he was never fully invested. That he’d set up multiple strike zones — a strict one for most of the roster, but more lax for a chosen few. That he had too many competing business interests to devote the time truly needed toward a serious rebuild. That he could be hard to work for. That he had an ego.
Some ex-players lashed out. Before long, some of the guys he’d recruited as upgrades bailed, too.
“And I think, maybe it was something that had to happen,” the coach said at the time. “A lot of times it has to do with a lot more than me.”
The coach got frustrated. He circled the wagons.
“I believe that the type of players in our program are selfless and unselfish,” he continued. “We’ve had a normal year of football. They want to be here. And I’m more concerned with the guys that we have, and the guys we continue to add into our program.”
When people accused him of nepotism, especially if his QB1 struggled, he barked back at the haters.
“If it wasn’t for (my son), we would be getting obliterated,” the coach countered. “He gets us in the right place all the time. He had two perfectly thrown touchdown passes, that should have been touchdown passes. … we would have way more sacks if it wasn’t for him. He does a great job of getting the rid of the ball. When it’s not there, (he) takes monster hits when he has to. … If it wasn’t for him, it would be a lot worse.”
Now we’re not saying Deion Sanders is borrowing whole pages from Ed McCaffrey’s script. But we’ve seen scenes from this particular movie before, haven’t we?
“I’ve never played (or) coached (a) team that only won three (games) last year,” Ed, the ex-Broncos great and the coach from paragraphs 1-11, told me before his second star-crossed season up in Greeley. “But that was one more than the previous three years. So you’ve got to understand what we’re dealing with.”
We’re not dealing with a perfect parallel, granted. At least Ed knew some of his linemen by name.
And, yes, Coach Prime’s Buffs are faster and more talented than two years ago, even with a historic roster churn. Yes, Shedildo Sanders is an NFL quarterback, a first-round draft pick. Dylan McCaffrey, while a super dude, was neither.
But the superficial stuff? The circus stuff? It tracks.
Before The Prime Effect, there was The Eddie Effect. McCaffrey, a Front Range football legend, drew cameras, eyeballs and money that never would’ve sniffed Greeley otherwise. His name alone got enough moneybags on board to line up much-needed facilities upgrades, including fresh turf at Nottingham Field and plans for a new set of lights. Coach Prime, after 18 months on the job, has made CU a national brand. It’s largely his brand, but still.
McCaffrey hired his 28-year old son, who had no coaching experience, to be his offensive coordinator. This season, the Buffs will trot out an OC in Pat Shurmur whose only collegiate coordinating experience came halfway through last season, and who still hasn’t produced a game plan that’s won a game for CU. Sanders is debuting a defensive coordinator this fall who’s never been a college defensive play-caller — heck, a play-caller anywhere — in his career.
Players came and went in droves at UNC two years ago, just as they are right now in Boulder. When depth wasn’t an issue, continuity and consistency were.
Swapping your malcontents for somebody else’s malcontents didn’t fix the chemistry much as long as the double standards for family, for the chosen ones, persisted. Names changed. Faces changed. Resentment remained.
Year 1 at UNC saw a bump from 2-9 before Ed arrived to 3-8 in 2021. Year 2: Another 3-8.
The crowds waned. The whispers hissed. There was no Year 3.
CU should be better. Lord help Ralphie if they aren’t, because this film usually doesn’t end on a happy note. At some point, all sizzle and no steak leaves everybody with an empty stomach.
Not long ago, a big name, a football legend, was hired to make flowers bloom in a coaching graveyard. “He’s a Hail Mary,” they said. “So crazy, it just might work,” they said. “Why not? The school’s tried everything else,” they said.
He’d won big at his previous job. He had a plan. He made his kid the starting quarterback. He had another kid around constantly. His family took over the place. And that was cool, because, again, this was a big name, a winner, beloved by millions.
Then he lost.
Players, at first. Then coaches. Then games. Then more players.
Stories came out. Whispers got louder. There was buzz that he was never fully invested. That he’d set up multiple strike zones — a strict one for most of the roster, but more lax for a chosen few. That he had too many competing business interests to devote the time truly needed toward a serious rebuild. That he could be hard to work for. That he had an ego.
Some ex-players lashed out. Before long, some of the guys he’d recruited as upgrades bailed, too.
“And I think, maybe it was something that had to happen,” the coach said at the time. “A lot of times it has to do with a lot more than me.”
The coach got frustrated. He circled the wagons.
“I believe that the type of players in our program are selfless and unselfish,” he continued. “We’ve had a normal year of football. They want to be here. And I’m more concerned with the guys that we have, and the guys we continue to add into our program.”
When people accused him of nepotism, especially if his QB1 struggled, he barked back at the haters.
“If it wasn’t for (my son), we would be getting obliterated,” the coach countered. “He gets us in the right place all the time. He had two perfectly thrown touchdown passes, that should have been touchdown passes. … we would have way more sacks if it wasn’t for him. He does a great job of getting the rid of the ball. When it’s not there, (he) takes monster hits when he has to. … If it wasn’t for him, it would be a lot worse.”
Now we’re not saying Deion Sanders is borrowing whole pages from Ed McCaffrey’s script. But we’ve seen scenes from this particular movie before, haven’t we?
“I’ve never played (or) coached (a) team that only won three (games) last year,” Ed, the ex-Broncos great and the coach from paragraphs 1-11, told me before his second star-crossed season up in Greeley. “But that was one more than the previous three years. So you’ve got to understand what we’re dealing with.”
We’re not dealing with a perfect parallel, granted. At least Ed knew some of his linemen by name.
And, yes, Coach Prime’s Buffs are faster and more talented than two years ago, even with a historic roster churn. Yes, Shedildo Sanders is an NFL quarterback, a first-round draft pick. Dylan McCaffrey, while a super dude, was neither.
But the superficial stuff? The circus stuff? It tracks.
Before The Prime Effect, there was The Eddie Effect. McCaffrey, a Front Range football legend, drew cameras, eyeballs and money that never would’ve sniffed Greeley otherwise. His name alone got enough moneybags on board to line up much-needed facilities upgrades, including fresh turf at Nottingham Field and plans for a new set of lights. Coach Prime, after 18 months on the job, has made CU a national brand. It’s largely his brand, but still.
McCaffrey hired his 28-year old son, who had no coaching experience, to be his offensive coordinator. This season, the Buffs will trot out an OC in Pat Shurmur whose only collegiate coordinating experience came halfway through last season, and who still hasn’t produced a game plan that’s won a game for CU. Sanders is debuting a defensive coordinator this fall who’s never been a college defensive play-caller — heck, a play-caller anywhere — in his career.
Players came and went in droves at UNC two years ago, just as they are right now in Boulder. When depth wasn’t an issue, continuity and consistency were.
Swapping your malcontents for somebody else’s malcontents didn’t fix the chemistry much as long as the double standards for family, for the chosen ones, persisted. Names changed. Faces changed. Resentment remained.
Year 1 at UNC saw a bump from 2-9 before Ed arrived to 3-8 in 2021. Year 2: Another 3-8.
The crowds waned. The whispers hissed. There was no Year 3.
CU should be better. Lord help Ralphie if they aren’t, because this film usually doesn’t end on a happy note. At some point, all sizzle and no steak leaves everybody with an empty stomach.
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Thankfully they are typically way off on things like that. I like them for their discussion on things around playing football but they don’t guess records or games very well.
The truth is they have good “skill” talent. I question if Shurmur is going to call a better game for the talent they have on offense than Lewis but hey certainly can do what they did to us last year again this year.
I don’t think their defense is better, though.
What’s really interesting is that they are taking the nfl approach with “free agents” basically. And they are expecting 20-21 year old—far less talented—kids to be able to step in with a professionalism that the elite players have. Do your job, learn the plays, don’t mess up.
It shouldn’t work. We’ll see if they get better in year two.
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CUs dumb ass AD would need to be fired 1st. You think this idiot who let the “Prime” brand overtake CUs own brand is going to reign in Deion?
Lol
I knew they were fucked when this idiot was grinning ear to ear wearing a CU jacket with Deions mug & Prime brand on it
It’s literally a deal with the devil CU entered into
Going from obscurity & irrelevance to the most watched team in college football in a matter of months only to see it crash & burn just as quickly & probably be set back worse than they started
God I hope we piss pound them & end it so we can drive the final nail in the coffin
(& don’t think Rhule doesn’t feel the same with how Deion tried to play the “Rhule disrespected me/it’s personal)” card last yr). That game is going to be insane in Lincoln & everyone is going to use it to exorcise over 20 yrs of demons & disappointments. Mouthy CU fans best stay home. “Nebraska nice” won’t be on display that weekend
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Man I just do not see it. I think vegas as their total at over/under 5.5 wins.
Because of their lack of depth up front I think they have to go 4-0 to start the season or they are not likely to make a bowl
NDSU
@ Nebraska
@ Colorado St
Baylor
@ UCF
Kansas State
@ Arizona
Cincinnati
@ Texas Tech
Utah
@ Kansas
Oklahoma St
Looking at that...will they be favored in more than 3 games? NDSU, Colorado St and Cincinnati? I don't know what Texas Tech has coming back but that's in Lubbock, UCF is better than Colorado, Malzahn is a much better coach. They have byes between UCF and K State and between Cincinnati and Texas Tech. The only other 2 games I could see them possibly being a favorite or less than a FG dog to is Nebraska and Arizona.
If they go 3-1 to start the season..where do they find 3 more wins? 4-0 then I think maybe they can scratch out 2 more wins.
They may give up 1000 rushing yards in a 3 week span playing UCF on 9/28 and Kansas State on 10/12.
The stretch of @ Texas Tech, Utah, @ KU and OK St is tough. Utah beats the hell out of everybody and then you have to go to KU with all of their running backs and then turn around and have to stop that RB from Ok St on short rest. Tough.
If they can start hot and be 4-0 then that hype train may have a chance to get going. But boy if they play a rough and tumble game with North Dakota State and then the same with Nebraska...@ Colorado St is a lot tougher of a game. That thing will fall a part quickly with the culture that might be lacking there.
A lot of variance in their schedule.
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I think CU will start 4-0.
North Dakota State will have a lot of youth starting in game one.
CU will give Nebraska too many match up problems
Colorado State and Baylor are both going to suck.
I like their chances vs. Arizona and Cincinnati. They should be sitting at 6-2 by the end of October. But then I think they close the season 0-4. At 6-6, they take Vegas Bowl bid, half their starters sit out, they lose by 40 to Illinois, and then Deion resigns after a 6-7 season.
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You make some valid points. Not sure they start 4-0 but certainly possible. I’m not buying into hype of us beating them. Got bit on that last year, so I’m gun shy.
Like him or not, Shedildo is a good qb. We have a true freshman starting his second game in a high profile game. If we played them later in the season, I wouldn’t be worried at all.
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I fucking hate you
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I prefer using the lense of the big stage is what Raiola was born for. He will show everyone that he's going to be "HIM" as the kids would say and completely show out as is his destiny at NU.
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I've bought into the hype and talked a tremendous amount of shit to CU "fans" leading up to the last three games vs them. Hasn't turned out awesome.
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I get ya. And this Raiola as Neo theory might actually turn out to be correct, but I'm not factoring that into my prediction.
I will likely pick Nebraska for the following reason: we were very even with them last year (until our QB imploded) and almost every single variable that has changed from 2023 to 2024 is in Nebraska's favor.
Changes from 2023 game:
1. Home field (adv NU)
2. NU offense better (adv NU)
3. NU QB better (adv NU)
4. NU WRs way better (adv NU)
5. CU OC slightly worse (adv NU)
6. CU loses Edwards (adv NU)
7. CU mystique lessened/they went 4-8 (adv NU)
8. NU 2nd yr of a proven HC (adv NU)
I see Nebraska as the better team by maybe -7 to -8 on a Vegas score sheet. I just don't see where CU upgraded enough to change my calculation.
The only way I'd pick CU is if I was convinced that Raiola is going to contribute to 3 or more turnovers. I do think Dylan will have his share of turnovers this year but I think he'll do enough in the CU game to get the win. He'll at the very least be a big improvement from Sims. And even with Sims we were fairly even with CU until he started throwing the game to pay off his bookie. I just don't see where CU has improved enough to make me like them to win a huge road game like this.
