#2ndChoice to Wisconsin Confirmed

[Cookiemonster]

If we land Leonard I would grade this hire from an A to an A+.

I had huge concerns with #2ndChoice as Cincinnati has been good most years since 00.
Fickle looked like shit at Ohio state in a really weak big ten conf at the time. We even beat him.

I think #2ndChoice is a good coach and probably a better fit for Wisconsin.

I prefer Rhule in that he was able to take absolute shit teams historically and build them into winners under his banner.

Situations mattered.

Carolina sucked before him. They suck now. They will suck until they get a qb worth a damn. Any argument that he had talent is wrong. cmc was injured nearly the entire time Rhule was there.

 

[DuckSker]

AAC the conference Frost made other coaches look stupid.

Yet we rave about Rhule having 2 winning seasons of his 5 at AAC Temple….

 

[herbsinator]

Yet we rave about Rhule having 2 winning seasons of his 5 at AAC Temple….

That’s not why we’re raving about him…. If you’re not going to engage in actual good faith debate about this then maybe go back to On3?

I can’t tell if you’re legit stupid or just trolling

 

[Jim14510]

Yet we rave about Rhule having 2 winning seasons of his 5 at AAC Temple….

But he does have success in the Big 12 too. I'm not making any guarantees Rhule is going to be good. I'm cautiously optimistic. Just saying #2ndChoice isn't any more of a sure thing.

 

[Cash68847]

If we land Leonard I would grade this hire from an A to an A+.

I had huge concerns with #2ndChoice as Cincinnati has been good most years since 00.
Fickle looked like shit at Ohio state in a really weak big ten conf at the time. We even beat him.

I think #2ndChoice is a good coach and probably a better fit for Wisconsin.

I prefer Rhule in that he was able to take absolute shit teams historically and build them into winners under his banner.

Situations mattered.

Carolina sucked before him. They suck now. They will suck until they get a qb worth a damn. Any argument that he had talent is wrong. cmc was injured nearly the entire time Rhule was there.

If Rhule keeps Mickey, adds the A$M coach and Collins as the DC I’ll call that a big win.

 

[Cash68847]

Or Leonhard

Collins has had good defenses at different places. I think he is as good.

 

[DrinkItIn]

But he does have success in the Big 12 too. I'm not making any guarantees Rhule is going to be good. I'm cautiously optimistic. Just saying #2ndChoice isn't any more of a sure thing.

Exactly...and if people think #2ndChoice is better than Rhule and so bet it. But to denigrate anyone that would prefer Rhule over #2ndChoice is ignorant. #2ndChoice is just as big an unknown as Rhule. Maybe they both end up good hires or maybe they don't. Nobody has any clue.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Collins has had good defenses at different places. I think he is as good.

I agree. Collins would be a big win. I think Collins would be able to take what we have and tighten it up even more. We’d be too 35 defensively within a year or two IMO

I just want Leonard in that he stays away from Wisconsin and we can steal some of their players via portal. Leonard is a future big time coach. High upside here.

 

[jasonmomoa]

wisconsin getting fickel makes it even more important that we keep mickey.

 

[DuckSker]

But he does have success in the Big 12 too. I'm not making any guarantees Rhule is going to be good. I'm cautiously optimistic. Just saying #2ndChoice isn't any more of a sure thing.

In my opinion #2ndChoice is much more of a sure thing. Agree to disagree

 

[ChocaEgg]

wisconsin getting fickel makes it even more important that we keep mickey.

Why?

 

[DuckSker]

wisconsin getting fickel makes it even more important that we keep mickey.

#RhuleArmy doesn’t want Mickey because he will undermine Rhule. I hope we keep Mickey, losing Mick will turn this from a 4-6 win roster to a 1-2 win roster real quick.

And with Rhule’s recruiting history and reputation this isn’t going to be a 1 year flip. Even though in todays day and age it could be.

 

[DuckSker]

Why?

So we don’t have a division 3 roster next year. We just offerred Jamel Lloyd for fuck sake

 

[Kaladin]

Collins has had good defenses at different places. I think he is as good.

Collins has ties to Georgia now too, which would be good for recruiting.

 

[BorWhiskey]

We’ll re-examine my potato take that #2ndChoice is a better coach/hire than Rhule in a few years. Hopefully i have some crow to eat.

I have a feeling we are debating a fine line. No one thinks LF is a bad coach or could potentially be better than Rhule. A lot said that they preferred LF to MKR in days leading up to the announcement. I’m not sure where I stand. Probably prefer LF… but I’m not going to start hating on the coach and the fans that support that coach because of this outcome. It’s coming off like you’re dying on this hill and it’s going to make you resent any potential success MKR has just to prove your point. If that’s not the case, maybe consider your messaging moving forward. Or do whatever the fuck you want and continue to argue against the rest of the fans of the program.

 

[ChocaEgg]

So we don’t have a division 3 roster next year. We just offerred Jamel Lloyd for fuck sake

You see the dudes that Mickey was offering? Zero star QBs and shit, talk about a d3 roster...

 

[BIGSTICK67]

Right, wrong, or indifferent; I think Turd got his top choice.

Agreed. HCMKR cannot get in front of the podium fast enough. He's a skilled speaker that also brings substance.

 

[11husker23]

Alright i’m ready to raid Texas then.. expecting a big offseason from Rhule recruiting in Texas. Let’s get after it…

I hope we do we have done well historically when we target Texas.

I have a feeling we are debating a fine line. No one thinks LF is a bad coach or could potentially be better than Rhule. A lot said that they preferred LF to MKR in days leading up to the announcement. I’m not sure where I stand. Probably prefer LF… but I’m not going to start hating on the coach and the fans that support that coach because of this outcome. It’s coming off like you’re dying on this hill and it’s going to make you resent any potential success MKR has just to prove your point. If that’s not the case, maybe consider your messaging moving forward. Or do whatever the fuck you want and continue to argue against the rest of the fans of the program.

This x1000, just comes off as butthurt ducky. I think it’s possible both made good hires. Our resources, NIL and facilities will hopefully give us an advantage.

 

[DuckSker]

You see the dudes that Mickey was offering? Zero star QBs and shit, talk about a d3 roster...

Hopefully Rhule replaces Thompson, Palmer, Washington, and Grant with someone better. OL can’t go anywhere but up.

 

[nscottie]

Time will tell on both #2ndChoice and Rhule. Time to welcome our new coach and get behind him instead of debating woulda shoulda coulda.