So what's really wrong at Nebraska?

Bootleg11 · Nov 2, 2021

Pipe Line said:
Midwest schools that aren't able to recruit elite talent.

Minnesota seems to be doing ok with RPO spread.

Do you think Nebraska should be totally different and recruit from a totally different pool offensively and run something like the flex bone?

God is a Husker · Nov 2, 2021

Pipe Line said:
Midwest schools that aren't able to recruit elite talent.

If you guys think Nebraska ever has (or can) recruit like Ohio St/Bama/UGA are now you will forever be crying on a message board.

Nebraska ain’t ever gonna win anything cuz we have “elite” talent. Good to great talent + a system and culture is the only way Nebraska has ever won and is the only way Nebraska will ever win again.

Recruiting is important but that’s not the reason Callahan/Pelini/Riley/Frost have shit the bed.

Pipe Line · Nov 2, 2021

God is a Husker said:
If you guys think Nebraska ever has (or can) recruit like Ohio St/Bama/UGA are now you will forever be crying on a message board.

Nebraska ain’t ever gonna win anything cuz we have “elite” talent. Good to great talent + a system and culture is the only way Nebraska has ever won and is the only way Nebraska will ever win again.

Recruiting is important but that’s not the reason Callahan/Pelini/Riley/Frost have shit the bed.

I don't think they will ever recruit like Ohio State/Bama/UGA, never have thought that at all. Frost's scheme needs that talent though to do what he wants. I think his scheme sucks. I think Callahan's scheme sucked. I think Riley's scheme sucked. Bo had a mix with some good talent and a good culture and that's why he did what he did.

Pass happy/West coast doesn't work in the Midwest at schools that don't/can't recruit elite talent.

Pipe Line · Nov 2, 2021

Bootleg11 said:
Minnesota seems to be doing ok with RPO spread.

Do you think Nebraska should be totally different and recruit from a totally different pool offensively and run something like the flex bone?

Minnesota runs the shit out of the ball though. They aren't pass happy/spread like I'm talking about. They hang their hat on running the ball, and hitting crossers and hook routes (whatever they're called) with the occasional deep ball.

I'm fine with the way we've recruited the last 2 or so years, but I think we should run something similar to Cockeye, with option and spread passing concepts built off of the run game.

Baron Winnebago · Nov 2, 2021

Pipe Line said:
Minnesota runs the shit out of the ball though. They aren't pass happy/spread like I'm talking about. They hang their hat on running the ball, and hitting crossers and hook routes (whatever they're called) with the occasional deep ball.

I'm fine with the way we've recruited the last 2 or so years, but I think we should run something similar to Cockeyes, with option and spread passing concepts built off of the run game.

I'm in. Fleck to Nebraska

Pipe Line · Nov 2, 2021

Baron Winnebago said:
I'm in. Fleck to Nebraska

$15 mil. 30 years

Bootleg11 · Nov 2, 2021

Pipe Line said:
Minnesota runs the shit out of the ball though. They aren't pass happy/spread like I'm talking about. They hang their hat on running the ball, and hitting crossers and hook routes (whatever they're called) with the occasional deep ball.

I'm fine with the way we've recruited the last 2 or so years, but I think we should run something similar to Cockeyes, with option and spread passing concepts built off of the run game.

True story. I think Minnesota is 70% run and one of the slowest play calling offenses in the nation.

Bootleg11 · Nov 2, 2021

I could see Fleck to USC if they strike out on some guys.

HuskerDocCo · Nov 2, 2021

i Burleave the shaft went into the wrong hole deano

Baron Winnebago · Nov 2, 2021

Pipe Line said:
$15 mil. 30 years

If he needs the pot sweetened, I'll let him hit Jim as hard as he wants in the face until he either loses consciousness or dies, whichever happens second

Bootleg11 · Nov 2, 2021

Baron Winnebago said:
If he needs the pot sweetened, I'll let him hit Jim as hard as he wants in the face until he either loses consciousness or dies, whichever happens second

That type of budget might reel in Meyer or Saban.

Havoc34 · Nov 2, 2021

Bootleg11 said:
Harsin's work he's done this year makes you hesitant on a guy like Gus Malzahn. Bo Nix looks like an actual competent QB now.

Really wanted Harsin after they fired Riley. Didn’t think Scott was ready. Wish I had been wrong.

Pipe Line · Nov 2, 2021

Baron Winnebago said:
If he needs the pot sweetened, I'll let him hit Jim as hard as he wants in the face until he either loses consciousness or dies, whichever happens second

The same goes for Stein on RSS

BBTown Bomber · Nov 2, 2021

God is a Husker said:
bruh thats like not even close to enough hours for a Power 5 coaching job

they are working 12+ hours a day 7 days a week (or should be)

I mean a Saturday game day alone is a 16+ hour day

“game day alone is a 16+ hour day”

Not if you get to Gate 25 early enough to make Happy Hour…….😎

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BBTown Bomber · Nov 2, 2021

LoudHogRider said:
Whereas I blame the 308 for turning out "softer" athletes. Back in St. Osborne's day, you could count on Western Nebraska producing a strapping young lad that was already country strong from slinging hay bales around all day. Now they sit in their fancy tractors and watch their equipment spit out big round bales that are moved with hydraulics, not muscles. SMH.

Cozad/Crick is NOT western Nebraska. 😠

(But it’s close)

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Jim14510 · Nov 2, 2021

Bootleg11 said:
I would classify this as a non coaching issue. So how is this fixed?

Fire everybody

Bootleg11 · Nov 2, 2021

Savedatmoney said:
I blame Dean.

I realize that a lot of programs have similar fish bowls, but do you think the massive amount of media and internet communities that are solely focused on the program are a part of the problem? Whether that’s in overhyping recruits, protecting staffs or attacking staffs

Baron Winnebago · Nov 2, 2021

Bootleg11 said:
I realize that a lot of programs have similar fish bowls, but do you think the massive amount of media and internet communities that are solely focused on the program are a part of the problem? Whether that’s in overhyping recruits, protecting staffs or attacking staffs

I don't think it creates a unique pressure. If anything uniquely undermines Nebraska it's the divide between doing it the Nebraska way and accepting that there are lots of ways to win in college football in 2021, but only among the stakeholders in the programs (boosters of substance)

Faux Sean Callahan · Nov 3, 2021

Bootleg11 said:
Can we really blame coaches still?

Nebraska has tried a lot of different directions since Frank Solich:

Pro Style Coach - Callahan
Successful and fiery Defensive Coordinator - Pelini
Nice guy - Riley
Former star and (supposedly) offensive guru - Scott Frost

Is it just bad hires? Or is it something else? I don't think it's unrealistic to expect Nebraska to get to bowl games. That's only happened once in 7 years. At this point maybe it's unrealistic to expect to compete with for a Big 10 West division that isn't very good? Surely not though. So what's missing?

Maybe it's just as simple as they haven't tried the right type of coach: A person that's actually had success as a head coach at the Power 5 level? Maybe it's even more internally. Is there something holding the program back that isn't coach related? I thought all of that was supposed be cleared out after Eichorst was ousted?

The fix is easy...

Sacrifice Lil Red on the Billy C Rock with the Oregon State turnover chainsaw while Bo's pussy is inside Lil red by Frank.

Then you switch to Nike and Coke.

Profit

Or you have....

Frost develop an offensive identity that isn't focused on a QB maximizing or it is a bust. Running an offense that gets your dudes easy touches would also be ideal.
HCMR not suck donkey dick
Bo recruit and manage the roster better.
Cally hire a DC meant for the Big 12 not the B1G
Frank make the changes you made faster.... after the 01 season when you got boat raced twice.

I really think between Bo and Cally we were really close to popping as a program. HCMR wasn't ever close and was fucking awful. I actually think Frost is close, but the problem with being close is you never actually get to where you need to be.

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