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Leavers vs. newcomers' experience

Hotcarl

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Well once again bullshit is being spilt about how little we're losing vs. how great the incomers are in terms of experience and games played. Some real data. parenthesis if its not a p5 program

Games played LeavingComing
30+Jimari Butler, Nate BoerkircherWatson-Trent (Georgia Southern), McCallister (punter), Dane Key
20+Gbayor, Umanmielen, ThompsonPritchett, McCullough, George
10+Lloyd, Coleman, Wallin, Dowdell, Jackson, Williams, Garcia-Castaneda, RollinsConn (Southern Illinois), Marshall (Idaho), Hunter
1-5Ruggeroli, Bootle, McMorris, Ervin(8), HoodGroves-Killebrew (7), Gilmore (7), Rhett, Nwaneri
 
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Well once again bullshit is being spilt about how little we're losing vs. how great the incomers are in terms of experience and games played. Some real data. parenthesis if its not a p5 program

Games playedLeavingComing
30+Jimari Butler, Nate BoerkircherWatson-Trent (Georgia Southern), McCallister (punter), Dane Key
20+Gbayor, Umanmielen, ThompsonPritchett, McCullough, George
10+Lloyd, Coleman, Wallin, Dowdell, Jackson, Williams, Garcia-Castaneda, RollinsConn (Southern Illinois), Marshall (Idaho), Hunter
1-5Ruggeroli, Bootle, McMorris, Ervin(8), HoodGroves-Killebrew (7), Gilmore (7), Rhett, Nwaneri
What’s your takeaway here, OP? Don’t just throw a table in front of us with no message.
 
Well once again bullshit is being spilt about how little we're losing vs. how great the incomers are in terms of experience and games played. Some real data. parenthesis if its not a p5 program

Games playedLeavingComing
30+Jimari Butler, Nate BoerkircherWatson-Trent (Georgia Southern), McCallister (punter), Dane Key
20+Gbayor, Umanmielen, ThompsonPritchett, McCullough, George
10+Lloyd, Coleman, Wallin, Dowdell, Jackson, Williams, Garcia-Castaneda, RollinsConn (Southern Illinois), Marshall (Idaho), Hunter
1-5Ruggeroli, Bootle, McMorris, Ervin(8), HoodGroves-Killebrew (7), Gilmore (7), Rhett, Nwaneri
Of the guys in your 10+ category, it is worth noting that outside of Lloyd, Coleman, and Dowdell, those guys were pretty much special teams guys. And Coleman played a grand total of zero snaps this past season.

Boerk was a 2nd/3rd string TE with very little production.

Thompson played a lot of football but consistently got worse each season.

Butler, Gbayor, Umanmielen, and Dowdell are the only guys leaving with much real production that we might miss.

I’m not sure “games played” is a very valuable metric to assess this.

You should make a new table that compares “non-special teams snaps.”

I’d imagine it looks a lot different.
 
Of the guys in your 10+ category, it is worth noting that outside of Lloyd, Coleman, and Dowdell, those guys were pretty much special teams guys. And Coleman played a grand total of zero snaps this past season.

Boerk was a 2nd/3rd string TE with very little production.

Thompson played a lot of football but consistently got worse each season.

Butler, Gbayor, Umanmielen, and Dowdell are the only guys leaving with much real production that we might miss.

I’m not sure “games played” is a very valuable metric to assess this.

You should make a new table that compares “non-special teams snaps.”

I’d imagine it looks a lot different.
That’s fair, but I sure hear a lot of bitching about special teams play so I don’t know that I would downplay those snaps. Two of our “premium” incoming dudes are special teams
 
That’s fair, but I sure hear a lot of bitching about special teams play so I don’t know that I would downplay those snaps. Two of our “premium” incoming dudes are special teams
There’s a difference between “specialist” and “special teams snaps.”
 
Well once again bullshit is being spilt about how little we're losing vs. how great the incomers are in terms of experience and games played. Some real data. parenthesis if its not a p5 program

Games playedLeavingComing
30+Jimari Butler, Nate BoerkircherWatson-Trent (Georgia Southern), McCallister (punter), Dane Key
20+Gbayor, Umanmielen, ThompsonPritchett, McCullough, George
10+Lloyd, Coleman, Wallin, Dowdell, Jackson, Williams, Garcia-Castaneda, RollinsConn (Southern Illinois), Marshall (Idaho), Hunter
1-5Ruggeroli, Bootle, McMorris, Ervin(8), HoodGroves-Killebrew (7), Gilmore (7), Rhett, Nwaneri
What I find fascinating about the portal is Ole Miss is touting they got a Freshman AA from us in Umanmielen, but it's pretty clear he didn't want to be here, so that's not a loss in my eyes. Same but different, Minnesota is touting the Top100 recruit they got from us in Coleman, but again that's not a loss in my eyes. Both may do well at their new spots, but aren't a loss based on how they were performing in Lincoln.

Butler, Boerkircher, Gbayor, Williams, and Dowdell are the ones that hurt because they were contributors in a big way and/or had very good upside.
 
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