POLL Which QB gives us the best chance to make a bowl?

[cwessel76]

Did I ever say he played well the first two games of this year? You’re creating a total strawman argument here so good job I guess.

Not saying you did - simply saying this tiger isn’t likely to change his stripes at this point of his football career.

He seems like a hell of a dude/leader off the field though.

 

[BluesBucksNHuskers]

I bet Jeff Sins could start and play the next 4 Big Ten games, and he still wouldn't surpass Haarberg's 4 Total TD Passes.

You’re probably right. But god the ball he throws looks much better (until a safety stands in front of it)

 

[Jim14510]

I think Sims is the most talented QB and he’s definitely the most experienced. If he can clean up TOs it’s him.

I can't decide if it's more likely Sims stops turning it over or HH continues not turning it over.

 

[Jim14510]

Not saying you did - simply saying this tiger isn’t likely to change his stripes at this point of his football career.

He seems like a hell of a dude/leader off the field though.

Isn't turnovers going up this year changing his stripes?

 

[ChocaEgg]

Isn't turnovers going up this year changing his stripes?

 

[That SOB Van Owen]

What am I looking at? There’s no way there’s a negative correlation between turnover differential and wins.

 

[BingoDingo]

What am I looking at? There’s no way there’s a negative correlation between turnover differential and wins.

I just pulled the Sports-Reference TO differential - which was Off TO minus Def TOs...so, my bad?

 

[BluesBucksNHuskers]

This. It is maddening that people think they can just go away

I don’t think anyone expects them to go away. But if I had to win a race and the choice was me running or my car that has never ran before. My answer is still, “Well maybe that baby starts next time I turn the key”.

We’ve had a lot of coaches tell us with their actions now that Haarberg just has zero shot of throwing the ball.

 

[That SOB Van Owen]

I just pulled the Sports-Reference TO differential - which was Off TO minus Def TOs...so, my bad?

Oh, ok. That makes sense. I was expecting to see positive turnover differential to mean more takeaways than giveaways, but it looks like it’s opposite.

 

[Mavsker]

I'd encourage anyone voting Sims to go rewatch the first half of the Colorado game. One of the worst performances I've ever seen. Give me Purdy before that BS.

 

[cwessel76]

I don’t think anyone expects them to go away. But if I had to win a race and the choice was me running or my car that has never ran before. My answer is still, “Well maybe that baby starts next time I turn the key”.

We’ve had a lot of coaches tell us with their actions now that Haarberg just has zero shot of throwing the ball.

I look simply at the turnover margins under Sims and HH.

Both aren’t great but one would veer us right off a cliff.

 

[cwessel76]

Isn't turnovers going up this year changing his stripes?

Sims has the yips at this point. He had a proclivity for turnovers at GT and got slightly better but he has reverted back to his old ways.

Maybe he uses “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter” for cologne but he just cannot help himself.

HH isn’t going to be confused for the second coming of Tom Brady anytime soon but at least he can take a snap without fumbling.

 

[BluesBucksNHuskers]

Maybe sims is just good for around 20 turnovers a year regardless and he was just trying to get as many of those out of the way as possible before conference play 😂

 

[Jim14510]

got slightly better

He went from a bunch his fr year down to Casey Thompson level his 2nd year and only 4 his junior year. I wouldn't call that slightly. Even not playing all of the games one every other game is lower than normal. Not best in the country but perfectly acceptable.

I do agree he seems to have the yips. That is curable with confidence but you don't really know until you play him.

 

[cwessel76]

He went from a bunch his fr year down to Casey Thompson level his 2nd year and only 4 his junior year. I wouldn't call that slightly. Even not playing all of the games one every other game is lower than normal. Not best in the country but perfectly acceptable.

I do agree he seems to have the yips. That is curable with confidence but you don't really know until you play him.

I hear you - I just don’t see the upside that overrides the negatives for him.

 

[Adolph Coors]

That's where I'm at. He has two road starts in hostile environments against P5 teams whereas HH has two friendly home game starts against G5 schools. I need more info before making a choice.

I say all that not looking to forgive Sims for all his sins in his two starts, because he fucking sucked muck dick in those two starts.

he’s started 4 years. he aint going to change what he is

 

[Jim14510]

he’s started 4 years. he aint going to change what he is

People keep saying stuff like this. What is he? Is he the freshman that turned it over a lot or the junior that didn't turn it over much at all?

Martinez only changed who he was when he went to K St. He was the same guy from Fr to Sr. His decline in interceptions was more to do with play calling with few, low risk passes. However, he didn't fumble much either and he was great at fumbling at Nebraska. Why did that change?

Most likely confidence from success and not being the #1 option to run. Maybe a little coaching on how to take care of the football better but I doubt that was much of the equation.

With Sims do you have to simplify the passing game until his confidence grows? Is there any hope for Sims for 2024? If there is you have to play him to get his confidence up so you can expand the passing schemes gradually.

If you're simplifying the passing game for the rest of the year to keep him from turning it over you might as well just leave HH in there until/if he starts fucking up and hitting the portal hard for a QB.

I think there really is an upside for Sims. I don't think there is for HH. His upside is what we saw against NIU and LA Tech. Comes down to if the coaches are willing to take the chance on Sims ohoif they've given up on him.

 

[Cornicator]

I'm a firm believer that it just happens when players come to Nebraska and forget how to play. Exhibit A Tristan Alvano didn't miss at westside comes here and can't hit the broad side of a barn now.

To be fair, he was damned when he was picked to kick as True freshman.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Can we take a transfer mid-season? If so, probably them...

Michigan State's QB any good?

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

I think Sims is the most talented QB and he’s definitely the most experienced. If he can clean up TOs it’s him.

Sims is the most talented

At the end of the day he is 8-18 as a starter and leads the nation in turnovers.... How much more time does he need to figure it out?