POLL Which QB gives us the best chance to make a bowl?

[iruletheskool]

Sims is a turnover machine. I don’t know why anybody thinks it could magically stop.

This. It is maddening that people think they can just go away

 

[Pipe Line]

Gimme boring ass methodical offense over turnovers any day of the week.

 

[theDankness]

Sims gives us a better chance to beat Michigan, but HH to make a bowl game...if that makes sense

 

[herbsinator]

Sims is a turnover machine. I don’t know why anybody thinks it could magically stop.

He wasn’t turning the ball over at that high of a rate the last two years.

 

[Irv]

We had Thompson last year and Martinez before that

There wasn’t any need to start HH

I understand that but until injuries to two guys this year, he has never even been the number 2. He was playing at WR/TE earlier this year. The staffs have been telling us what they think of him as a QB.

Regardless of all of that, I just think this idea that he is "game manager" type is missing the point going forward. The rest of the offense is just not good enough to support a QB who is not a very credible threat in the passing game long term. There are probably times when HH would make the most sense with the data we have so far (and I tend to think he is going to start seeing more turnovers, but only time will tell), but I don't think this offense is it. We need someone who can keep the opponent remotely honest in the passing game and maybe even hit a big play or two to have any shot of scoring more than handful of points.

It's very unfortunate that the player who can do the most good things for us is also the one who has been doing the most bad things for us. It would be nice to have a different set of options.

 

[skerfan]

Sims gives us a better chance to beat Michigan, but HH to make a bowl game...if that makes sense

agree 100%

 

[dom91932]

I understand that but until injuries to two guys this year, he has never even been the number 2. He was playing at WR/TE earlier this year. The staffs have been telling us what they think of him as a QB.

Regardless of all of that, I just think this idea that he is "game manager" type is missing the point going forward. The rest of the offense is just not good enough to support a QB who is not a very credible threat in the passing game long term. There are probably times when HH would make the most sense with the data we have so far (and I tend to think he is going to start seeing more turnovers, but only time will tell), but I don't think this offense is it. We need someone who can keep the opponent remotely honest in the passing game and maybe even hit a big play or two to have any shot of scoring more than handful of points.

It's very unfortunate that the player who can do the most good things for us is also the one who has been doing the most bad things for us. It would be nice to have a different set of options.

So far offensively, there has been very little game to manage.

 

[lee_carvallo_12]

I wanted to see Sims in a home game when he's healthy first & see if he's calmed down from his shaky start to the season. IDK when we'll see that.

So you'd probably have to say HH now. But it should be Sims

That's where I'm at. He has two road starts in hostile environments against P5 teams whereas HH has two friendly home game starts against G5 schools. I need more info before making a choice.

I say all that not looking to forgive Sims for all his sins in his two starts, because he fucking sucked muck dick in those two starts.

 

[Kaladin]

That's where I'm at. He has two road starts in hostile environments against P5 teams whereas HH has two friendly home game starts against G5 schools. I need more info before making a choice.

I say all that not looking to forgive Sims for all his sins in his two starts, because he fucking sucked muck dick in those two starts.

I was willing to overlook the Minnesota game, but Sims completely shitting the bed against a terrible Colorado defense has led me to have little to no faith in Sims. Between that and his time at Georgia Tech I just can’t see him getting better

 

[cwessel76]

He wasn’t turning the ball over at that high of a rate the last two years.

The numbers beg to differ:

 

[lee_carvallo_12]

I was willing to overlook the Minnesota game, but Sims completely shitting the bed against a terrible Colorado defense has led me to have little to no faith in Sims. Between that and his time at Georgia Tech I just can’t see him getting better

I'm kinda with you. It seems like we're choosing between a turnover machine who can throw it slightly better versus a one-dimensional guy who seems to take better care of the ball. If our O is going to be limited with either choice, which seems to be the case, might as well go with the guy who is less likely to turn it over.

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

Harburg. Jeff Sims didn't even know the play when he went in Saturday.

 

[Kaladin]

When people say that Sims is high risk/high reward, what do they mean? I get the high risk part, he’s a turnover machine, but I don’t understand the high reward aspect.

 

[BingoDingo]

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

At -3 turnover differential, we have 14 Ws? Is that what I'm seeing here?

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

He wasn’t turning the ball over at that high of a rate the last two years.

I'm a firm believer that it just happens when players come to Nebraska and forget how to play. Exhibit A Tristan Alvano didn't miss at westside comes here and can't hit the broad side of a barn now.

 

[BingoDingo]

At -3 turnover differential, we have 14 Ws? Is that what I'm seeing here?

Well, no...because Turnover Differential isn't the only metric that impacts wins, but it does show the relationship between turnover differential and wins...

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Well, no...because Turnover Differential isn't the only metric that impacts wins, but it does show the relationship between turnover differential and wins...

It seems to me that that something is plotted on the wrong axis or mislabeled on that graph.

 

[Jay Bilzerian]

It seems to me that that something is plotted on the wrong axis or mislabeled on that graph.

Almost like the slope of the line should be flipped?

 

[BIGSTICK67]

I’m voting Sims due to the 5% chance he learns to stop throwing it to the other team and at least having the threat of a passing game.

I voted Hamburglar because of what you said. It's just whether he's going to get the opportunity to show he won't (or will) throw it to the other team.

I almost guarantee he will get that opportunity, because at some point Hamburglar will go out with an injury.

And I think Sins will fail that opportunity.