Waiting until the next morning…

[dsbigred1]

Well, misery loves company and at least we’re not the only miserable fanbase. USC and OU fans also going through it. Sure, we got our ass blown open on national television, but at least people expect that to happen. They don’t really expect OU and USC to suck as bad as they do. Talk about doing less with more.

Cockeye lost too, which was nice

 

[Ripping Lips]

Coaching matters. Indiana had a team full 5 star heart, 2 star talent and whipped our ass. But all of his staff have been coaches at lower levels and a few tied to Bama under Saban. Then you look at our staff, it’s blah in terms of coaching experience. Unfortunately, no one will challenge Rhule about his staff going forward or question why he can’t create separation with his WRs or establish a consistent run game. Or challenge his philosophy about why he thinks an NFL mentality works in college when it’s been proven multiple times it doesn’t.

 

[gtlacey]

…for postmortem (autopsy) thoughts hoping I’d feel different. Unfortunately, I don’t. have this sinking feeling this was Rhule’s 2007 Okie State. 2014 Wisconsin, or 2017 Minnesota or Cockeye.

Rhule is supposed to be a culture builder and the culture looked shitty yesterday. That’s most troubling.

I know it’s only midway through year two, but this already feels over. Hope I’m wrong.

Someone talk me out of it, please.

I guess the only comforting thing is that 2018 Baylor (Rhule’s second year) lost 66-33 to Oklahoma and 58-14 to WVU and his stint at Baylor turned out ok, right? So there is precedent for this in a good context.

 

[RedDeanRedemption]

Who cares it’s Nebrasketball szn now

 

[...TrueColors...]

Bringing in Jeff Sims to be his QB in year 1 was also a monumental fuckup

And the insane thing is that was Satterfield’s first order of business and Matt Rhule told us that Sims was an NFL guy.

 

[WillBoltsBurner]

I called him a salesmen a year ago and people freaked out lol.

It wasn’t hard to see he’s mostly a talker. Having said that, if he makes changes to his staff, he can succeed

This is where I'm at also. Satt and Foley NEED to be fired by the end of the season otherwise I'm going to get to the same point with Rhule that I did with Frost in 2019 where I was actively rooting for him to fail.

I know this is a dumb meathead response but I don't want to hear Rhule talk about having a tough team that Nebraskans can be proud of anymore. I'm convinced Rhule is a fake tough guy and it shows through with the team he puts out on the field. Every time they have their back against the wall and have to respond to adversity they just piss themselves in front of a national audience.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

These takes 1.5 years into a coach’s tenure. Beyond delusional honestly.

 

[HerbRedman]

If we were truly building a culture we wouldn't come out so flat in every non-CU game. Just a very low-energy program rn with players and coaches looking almost disinterested.

I’m far less bothered by the culture than the coaching. They had 2 weeks to prepare for that game and got boat raced. The players looked flat for sure but we got out coached from start to finish.

My 2 observations:

1. Rhule is not solving the "we shit ourselves in big games" problem. It LOOKED like it was solved vs CU but after UI game we've come out flat in every game this year. The KO fuck up and the Dowdell fumble killed any chance we had. Good teams don't do those things early in big games. Rhule talked all offseason how those things won't be tolerated yet here we are.

2. The bad coaching from OC and DC is killing the energy of the players. I DON'T believe we have a culture problem. I think the problem is, for instance, the offensive players know we don't have schemes that put them in playmaking positions, so they don't play with fire. If you were a salesman and you had to use your C+ method (which you know doesn't work), you wouldn't be excited to go to work every day. This is what I see is happening on offense and it's starting to happen on D.

 

[HerbRedman]

These takes 1.5 years into a coach’s tenure. Beyond delusional honestly.

I also think that Indiana might go 11-1. And Illinois might go 9-3. So we've had two losses to very good teams. One on the road in the program's biggest home game ever. And the other in OT.

Remember, Frost used to lose to 1-11 teams. And Troy. Riley lost to NIU.

If Rhule can piece together wins vs 3 of these (UCLA, USC, Wisconsin, Cockeye) then we'd be 8-4 and it'd be a hugely successful season. Even 2/4 in those gets him to 7-5 and that would be acceptable w a true FR QB.


Rhule's main problem right now isn't the 2 losses - it's the bad trends we've had for 4 games: bad STs, bad offense, inconsistent defense.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

It's hard to watch an absolutely hapless performance like that which we've seen from a number of staffs who were on their way out and not feel the same way that it's a coaching staff that is on its way out.

It's probably not the reality of the situation but the next 5 weeks are extremely important test of the culture Rhule claims he is building and how bought in players are to him

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

It was a crappy display of football by almost every part of the team yesterday.

We've also matched our best win total from the past 8 years by the halfway mark of the season, and should get that elusive bowl game & December practice schedule that's essential to build in a more productive way.

I'm pretty skeptical about at least 2-3 assistants, while keeping in mind that Donny was the universal scapegoat 3 years ago, and he since has tangible development and good recruiting to point too, with a reasonable OL room for the first time in forever.

I did expect more of a jump this year than what we've had, and I'm disappointed by the regression or stalling out over the past few weeks. That has to be addressed.

I'm also not hitting the panic button, because it's a rebuild, and they're almost always ugly at times. Burning it all down or changing out half of the coaches would be a tatery overreaction. But I do expect accountability and some corrections.

For now, show me some signs of life at OSU even if the score isn't great, then come back home and finish off UCLA one way or the other to get the first big monkey off our back.

 

[Sous Chef]

It's hard to watch an absolutely hapless performance like that which we've seen from a number of staffs who were on their way out and not feel the same way that it's a coaching staff that is on its way out.

It's probably not the reality of the situation but the next 5 weeks are extremely important test of the culture Rhule claims he is building and how bought in players are to him

I know which way my I'd lay any bets.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I know which way my I'd lay any bets.

Really what pissed me off the most yesterday was that I didn't get money on IU with how not great I felt about it when I woke up

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

Rhule really fucked himself with two of his coordinator hires. Foley and Satt clearly are not up to par and it’s costing us

Really to be fair Satterfield is hand cuffed on what he can call with as bad as our o line is re hire of Raiola was a terrible idea if the o line sucked under him the first time it wasn't going to change. It all starts up front.

 

[...TrueColors...]

It's hard to watch an absolutely hapless performance like that which we've seen from a number of staffs who were on their way out and not feel the same way that it's a coaching staff that is on its way out.

It's probably not the reality of the situation but the next 5 weeks are extremely important test of the culture Rhule claims he is building and how bought in players are to him

This is spot on.

You’ll likely get your 6th win against UCLA.

Is that enough?

 

[Baron Winnebago]

This is spot on.

You’ll likely get your 6th win against UCLA.

Is that enough?

Even before yesterday, I felt 3-3 was the floor on what I'd consider a successful back half. 2-4 wouldn't be ideal but an overall 7-5 would be tolerable.

I felt at the time that they had 4 games they should be able to compete in (included IU roflcoptersaurus)

And 2 that were most likely losses in Ohio State and USC

But even with yesterday, I still feel they have 4 that should be competitive games with USC in a tailspin. If they can't grind out at least UCLA + 1-2 more, are we really better off than a year ago?

 

[...TrueColors...]

Even before yesterday, I felt 3-3 was the floor on what I'd consider a successful back half. 2-4 wouldn't be ideal but an overall 7-5 would be tolerable.

I felt at the time that they had 4 games they should be able to compete in (included IU roflcoptersaurus)

And 2 that were most likely losses in Ohio State and USC

But even with yesterday, I still feel they have 4 that should be competitive games with USC in a tailspin. If they can't grind out at least UCLA + 1-2 more, are we really better off than a year ago?

I agree with where you’re going with this.

My answer is no. I thought going into yesterday that 3-3 would be acceptable. You can still do that. But it requires you to steal one from a place I wasn’t thinking you would.

Can you get USC, UCLA, and split between Cockeye and Wisconsin?

I’d be more than happy with that.

 

[skersker]

This is where I'm at also. Satt and Foley NEED to be fired by the end of the season otherwise I'm going to get to the same point with Rhule that I did with Frost in 2019 where I was actively rooting for him to fail.

I know this is a dumb meathead response but I don't want to hear Rhule talk about having a tough team that Nebraskans can be proud of anymore. I'm convinced Rhule is a fake tough guy and it shows through with the team he puts out on the field. Every time they have their back against the wall and have to respond to adversity they just piss themselves in front of a national audience.

Notice how much he brings up Osborne and solich?

And how much he makes it a point to talk about how much he loves Nebraska and all those things. It’s a part of his strategy (which isn’t dumb) to make sure he has sway with the fans. He knows they’re important, but sometimes he talks too much about certain things

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

Cockeye lost too, which was nice

That's always a good day.

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

This is spot on.

You’ll likely get your 6th win against UCLA.

Is that enough?

Thar one is still up in the air imo.