The Michigan spy

[Irv]

Ok hear me out: Nebraska wins out, Big 10 West Champs, get blown out by Michigan in CCG, Michigan has to vacate 2023 season, Nebraska = Big 10 Champions

Or, Nebraska wins out. Loses to Michigan in a game that was much closer than it should have been. After the season, Michigan is forced to fire Harbaugh. Michigan throws all of the money at the coach who nearly embarrassed them in the CCG.

All of the attractive jobs needs must stay filled.

 

[cwessel76]

Oh man this just keeps getting better: the Michigan balls boys were reportedly stealing play calls and relaying them to the coaches.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/10/29/michigan-silence-sign-stealing-scandal-jim-harbaugh

 

[Ironwardog]

One could make the argument.
SMU got it for paying players. What Michigan did is worse cheating than paying players, in my opinion.
Although really SMU got it for continuing to pay players even after being warned not to by the NCAA several times. Assuming that Michigan wasn't previously told to stop and continued doing this anyways, in that regard, they're not as bad as SMU.
SMU was also devastated by it and the Big Ten would break away from the NCAA before letting that happen to Michigan.

I’ve heard a lot of people seriously wanting the death penalty for Michigan, and I agree it would start the break away if they tried. I really believe they are never going to use it again because it caused a LOT of un intended economic problems for the local community with SMU. If they didn’t do it with Penn State, which is WAY worse than paying or cheating, they aren’t going to do it here.

 

[Juro]

I’ve heard a lot of people seriously wanting the death penalty for Michigan, and I agree it would start the break away if they tried. I really believe they are never going to use it again because it caused a LOT of un intended economic problems for the local community with SMU. If they didn’t do it with Penn State, which is WAY worse than paying or cheating, they aren’t going to do it here.

Death penalty is way too much just for this.

But since Harbaugh was already in a recent scandal this year, I say go ahead and factor that into the decision. The decision for the penalty should be forfeit last and last year’s season’s games (including a bowl ban by B1G before the end of the season), and give them a bowl ban for the 2024 season.

 

[Ironwardog]

Death penalty is way too much just for this.

But since Harbaugh was already in a recent scandal this year, I say go ahead and factor that into the decision. The decision for the penalty should be forfeit last and last year’s season’s games (including a bowl ban by B1G before the end of the season), and give them a bowl ban for the 2024 season.

I could get behind that idea if they find they actually broke the rules. Lot of evidence that is pointing to the fact that they are guilty but with the way media/social media is anymore I’ve become a lot more patient with personal judgement lol.

 

[cwessel76]

I’ve heard a lot of people seriously wanting the death penalty for Michigan, and I agree it would start the break away if they tried. I really believe they are never going to use it again because it caused a LOT of un intended economic problems for the local community with SMU. If they didn’t do it with Penn State, which is WAY worse than paying or cheating, they aren’t going to do it here.

The Penn St program should have been blasted to the surface of the sun.

Turning a blind eye towards and even enabling the sexual abuse of children warrants the death penalty IMO.

 

[redzoner]

I don't think the courts would allow this to happen but I wish their was a partnership between the NFL and NCAA so they could suspend coaches and administrators across both leagues. This would have a lot more teeth if Harbaugh couldn't just jump right to the NFL.

It would also make it so they could punish the people that committed the crimes instead of future players and coaches at that school.

 

[Tell_Sackett]

It probably does but depends on the team, like Cockeye plays the same D until a team forces them out of it so it doesn’t make much of a difference against em. TCU probably varied it a lot more which made em rely on McCarthy to diagnose then pivot if the playcall vs coverage wasn’t ideal which contributed to the mistakes.

Their OL not knowing when a blitz was on/off & idk if the signals can tell who’s blitzing but they were definitely out of sorts in the first half with TCU mixing up their rush/blitz.

Just knowing the defense & when to check in or out of a good/bad play, goes a long ways to avoiding mistakes & eliminating the opportunities for a defense to get sacks or int or any negative play then u got the checks that create big plays for the offense.

This now makes so much more sense as to how Michigan looked so terrible against TCU. If they would have just lined up and played them with no ”advantage”, they would have beaten them by two or three touchdowns. This is equivalent to Animal House, digging through the dumpster to get the answers to a falsified test and then...

 

[Mavsker]

The Penn St program should have been blasted to the surface of the sun.

Turning a blind eye towards and even enabling the sexual abuse of children warrants the death penalty IMO.

The death penalty of both kinds

 

[Frogsker30]

 

[jickey moseph]

it’s the gift that keeps on giving

 

[doublewing]

 

[BIGSTICK67]

What new leaks came out today boys? I work for a living. GBR

 

[nja13]

Video is even more damning.

This seems pretty damning. He is clearly looking across the field at the opposing sideline them sending in his own call based on what he saw.

If this was the only evidence, yeah, not much there. Teams are allowed to try to figure out signs being flashed right in front of them. But with all the other evidence, including sending people to games of future opponents to video their signals which you can then synch up with game footage to discipher the meaning to the signs... that's not "part of the game."

 

[Cash68847]

This now makes so much more sense as to how Michigan looked so terrible against TCU. If they would have just lined up and played them with no ”advantage”, they would have beaten them by two or three touchdowns. This is equivalent to Animal House, digging through the dumpster to get the answers to a falsified test and then...

I assume it’s been discussed on here but TCU changed their signal caller they had used for 3 years plus all their signs because they got tipped off of what Michigan was doing.

 

[Tell_Sackett]

I assume it’s been discussed on here but TCU changed their signal caller they had used for 3 years plus all their signs because they got tipped off of what Michigan was doing.

Yep. That's what I was referring to. Michigan knew all the wrong answers.

 

[jickey moseph]

Are they cooked?

 

[BIGSTICK67]

Are they cooked?

I mean, he's found so I'd say death penalty. They have pictures too!

 

[Pepe Silvia]

 

[nscottie]

They may be AI but of course a Michigan fan will say this. I believe CMU is looking into the photo.