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Rumor Situation developing in Cockeye City (1 Viewer)

Kaladin

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Death penalty?

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Point shaving that offense to hit the unders
If this is true it would be majorly disappointing. It would basically be saying that the Cockeye offense was actually better than what they showed in 2022. Which is too bad bc in 2022 they were hysterically bad on offense, almost to a Benny Hill sketch type of level.

And it would shed some light on that bizarre contract stipulation that Brian Ferentz had no problem accepting. If he knew or heard rumors of point shaving in 2022, then he'd know that the offense is better than it showed and wouldn't be worried about 2023. Frankly it sheds some light on Kirk Ferentz blindly extending Brian into this year, one year after Cockeye was far and away the worst offense in P5.

Of course Kirk and Brian and all the coaches will claim they had no knowledge of any of this.
 

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It could be true, but it is more likely than a conspiracy theory arising from the fact the Cockeye offense was historically bad - what could explain that, I wonder? Must be they were intentionally bad. Can't be the fact that they didn't, for example, have any WRs.
 

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Gambling is everywhere now, what did you all expect? Of course this was going to become an issue. For the 97% of us that can handle it and just have fun there are still the 3% that think they can be the mini mafia, Tony Montana, Sopranos, Al Capone wannabes. What we will find out is that whatever they were betting was not worth risking their scholarships for it, but they just thought they could get away with it.

Gambling isn't new. Cheating isn't new. But what is new is that we've added two huge influences into 1000s of college kid's lives with big NIL money and gambling availability. There are gonna be tons of crash and burn stories in places we hadn't seen them before.
 

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Gambling is everywhere now, what did you all expect? Of course this was going to become an issue. For the 97% of us that can handle it and just have fun there are still the 3% that think they can be the mini mafia, Tony Montana, Sopranos, Al Capone wannabes. What we will find out is that whatever they were betting was not worth risking their scholarships for it, but they just thought they could get away with it.

Gambling isn't new. Cheating isn't new. But what is new is that we've added two huge influences into 1000s of college kid's lives with big NIL money and gambling availability. There are gonna be tons of crash and burn stories in places we hadn't seen them before.
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If this is true it would be majorly disappointing. It would basically be saying that the Cockeye offense was actually better than what they showed in 2022. Which is too bad bc in 2022 they were hysterically bad on offense, almost to a Benny Hill sketch type of level.

And it would shed some light on that bizarre contract stipulation that Brian Ferentz had no problem accepting. If he knew or heard rumors of point shaving in 2022, then he'd know that the offense is better than it showed and wouldn't be worried about 2023. Frankly it sheds some light on Kirk Ferentz blindly extending Brian into this year, one year after Cockeye was far and away the worst offense in P5.

Of course Kirk and Brian and all the coaches will claim they had no knowledge of any of this.
Brian got thrown a lifeline by his daddy because he really doesn’t want to fire his son which is understandable because it’s his son. If I remember right he has to reach 28 points a game next year which would still be a shitty offense. I don’t think this alleged gambling scandal has anything to do with it.
 

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The thing about point shaving is that you get caught. Unless you are a player that keeps the scheme to himself and does it a few times, but they never do. They want to cash in so they have a network of buddies placing bets and those dudes cannot keep secrets either. It works once or twice and you want to keep earning money.

Even before the era of big data and data science, the sports books coordinated when they spotted anomalies in betting trends.
 

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The thing about point shaving is that you get caught. Unless you are a player that keeps the scheme to himself and does it a few times, but they never do. They want to cash in so they have a network of buddies placing bets and those dudes cannot keep secrets either. It works once or twice and you want to keep earning money.

Even before the era of big data and data science, the sports books coordinated when they spotted anomalies in betting trends.
Just seeing point shaving being brought up with Cockeye football is pretty funny if a guy thinks about it.
 

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Point shaving scandals have occurred a number of times in college sports history - a few of the big ones:

Northwestern's Point-Shaving Plot​


Just days before the 1998 Final Four, Northwestern, known for its academic prowess far more than its athletic acumen, became associated with a shameful point-shaving scandal.
Two former starters for the Wildcats, Kenneth Dion Lee and Dewey Williams (pictured above), were charged with fixing three games during the 1994-95 season. The two were charged with point shaving while they were connected with two other men who paid the players for their attempts at fixing the games. That season the Wildcats finished 5-22.
Both players spent brief time in prison.
Later that year, the Wildcats' football program came under scrutiny after four other football players were charged with perjury in regards to betting on their own games during the 1994 season.

Boston College's Point-Shaving Scheme​


In a point-shaving scandal that significantly trumps the arrangement at Northwestern, three Boston College players became embroiled in a betting scheme conceived by gamblers Henry Hill, Rocco and Tony Perla, and Paul Mazzei. Some had connections to various upper-level gambling circles and some were connected to the mob.
Ultimately, BC players Rick Kuhn, Jim Sweeney and leading-scorer Ernie Cobb were implicated, though Cobb was acquitted of sports bribery and Sweeney was never charged. As the plan went, each player was to be paid $2,500 for each game the Eagles successfully failed to cover the spread throughout various pre-determined games in the 1978-79 season.
In essence, the gambling side would bank on Boston College’s ability to win, but to win by less than the betting line predicted. In total, the group had fixed or attempted to fix nine Boston College games.
After both parties made substantial gains, Hill was eventually arrested and became a government informant in hopes of immunity. Thanks to him, we have this piece from Sports Illustrated in 1981.
Kuhn, the point man on the BC side, was sentenced to a 10-year prison sentence, which was later reduced to 28 months.

Tulane's Point-Shaving Scam​


A point-shaving scandal involving gambling, drugs and thousands of dollars engulfed Tulane’s basketball program in 1985, forcing the president to drop the sport entirely from its athletic program.
Five players, including future NBA center John “Hot Rod” Williams (above) became consumed in the plot to fix two games—one against Southern Mississippi, the other against Memphis State.
Perhaps more damning than the players’ bribery scheme, it was determined that Ned Fowler, then the head coach of the Green Wave, had paid players throughout the season, a clear violation of NCAA conduct. According to the Los Angeles Times, Williams had received $100 dollars a week, but he’d also received substantial cash during his recruitment.
Fowler, two assistants and the school’s athletic director all resigned. The basketball program was eventually reinstated for the 1990-91 season.

1950's Point-Shaving Scandal​


No college point shaving scam has ever been as widespread as what transpired in the early 1950s.
Seven schools, including hallowed programs such as Kentucky and City College of New York (the only team to ever win the NIT and NCAA tournaments in the same year), and 32 players were implicated in the extensive scheme.
Gamblers bribed dozens of players to shave points, not throw games, a distinction that perhaps salvages some of the players’ pride. In total, the scam involved 86 games, spanning from 1947 to 1950.
Two Kentucky players, guard Ralph Beard and center Alex Groza, were embroiled in the scheme and had their promising NBA careers derailed after the league banned the two for life in 1952. As the final hammer, the NCAA suspended the entire Kentucky basketball program for the 1952-53 season.
 

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