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Purdue getting boat raced by Ohio State

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Because against the top ten teams, we played to win and make a statement. Against the others, we just walked in and played.

Good coaches get you motivated to play 100% every week against all, not some.
 
We actually played worse against Illinois, Minnesota, and Purdue than the top-10 teams, so that’s a complete fallacy.

Maybe I should elaborate….

If this team would have played to their potential every game and not just when it was playing a top ten team, it would probably be 7-3.

Better? Or is that still a fallacy that had we played against Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, and MSU the way we did against tOSU, Michigan, and OU we’d have lost those games ?
 
Maybe I should elaborate….

If this team would have played to their potential every game and not just when it was playing a top ten team, it would probably be 7-3.

Better? Or is that still a fallacy that had we played against Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, and MSU the way we did against tOSU, Michigan, and OU we’d have lost those games ?
Nebraska was a competent QB/QB coach, OL coach and just half assed special teams play away from being undefeated and in the playoff hunt.

Instead they're 3-7, because the head coach is a cunt that refused to address the above issues when they were blatantly obvious after year 2.
 
Nebraska was a competent QB/QB coach, OL coach and just half assed special teams play away from being undefeated and in the playoff hunt.

Instead they're 3-7, because the head coach is a cunt that refused to address the above issues when they were blatantly obvious after year 2.

Not sure those are the issues that are gonna keep us out of playoff contention.

I suppose I don’t watch field goal kickers miss field goals and think that a special teams coach fixes that issue. I don’t watch Cerni miss his target by 40 yards and think that a special teams coach fixes that. Or watch the other guy have 4 kicks under 15 yards and think to myself that a special teams coach fixes that.

I’m not really looking at the OL and thinking coaching was 100% the problem. I don’t think talent is the issue either.

So no. I don’t think not firing those coaches before this year kept us from a playoff spot.

I suppose if that’s your stance, you’ll be happy to know those moves have been made now. So playoff bound 2022?
 
Not sure those are the issues that are gonna keep us out of playoff contention.

I suppose I don’t watch field goal kickers miss field goals and think that a special teams coach fixes that issue. I don’t watch Cerni miss his target by 40 yards and think that a special teams coach fixes that. Or watch the other guy have 4 kicks under 15 yards and think to myself that a special teams coach fixes that.

I’m not really looking at the OL and thinking coaching was 100% the problem. I don’t think talent is the issue either.

So no. I don’t think not firing those coaches before this year kept us from a playoff spot.

I suppose if that’s your stance, you’ll be happy to know those moves have been made now. So playoff bound 2022?

I mean if its talent alone Alabama should be able to line up against every team except 5-10 on a weekly basis and leave Saban/all coordinators at home and they'll win regardless right?

PJ Fleck has won a lot more games than frost because his players buy into what he's selling no matter how fucking corny it looks to you or me. Rarely do his teams hold a talent advantage against the opposition. Frosts teams come out flat and or can't find a rythm 75% of the time. That's mostly coaching.

As far as the OL goes I find it hard to believe every recruiting service whiffed on every single high 3* and 4* currently on the roster. Again, that's coaching and development.

Frost better work the transfer portal hard and hope to god the portal doesn't work over his roster as well. Last year's and this years recruiting class leave a fucking lot to be desired.
 
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I mean if its talent alone Alabama should be able to line up against every team except 5-10 on a weekly basis and leave Saban/all coordinators at home and they'll win regardless right?

PJ Fleck has won a lot more games than frost because his players buy into what he's selling no matter how fucking corny it looks to you or more. Rarely do his teams hold a talent advantage against the opposition. Frosts teams come out flat and or can't find a rythm 75% of the time. That's mostly coaching.

As far as the OL goes I find it hard to believe every recruiting service whiffed on every single high 3* and 4* currently on the roster. Again, that's coaching and development.

Frost better work the transfer portal hard and hope to the portal doesn't work over his roster as well. Last year's and this years recruiting class leave a fucking lot to be desired.

So you are truly of the opinion that not firing the offensive staff and not having a special teams coach kept us from the playoff this year? That is your actual position?
 
So you are truly of the opinion that not firing the offensive staff and not having a special teams coach kept us from the playoff this year? That is your actual position?

I like how you left out the competent QB part.

Team was in every game to the end. Multiple opportunities with a chance to go down the field and win this year. Frosts hand picked QB that he boarded a flight for hours after winning the sugar bowl to fly across the country to recruit did nothing but shit down his leg every chance he got though.

Team would be 10-2 minimum with even Tommy Armstrong at QB.
 
I like how you left out the competent QB part.

Team was in every game to the end. Multiple opportunities with a chance to go down the field and win this year. Frosts hand picked QB that he boarded a flight for hours after winning the sugar bowl to fly across the country to recruit did nothing but shit down his leg every chance he got though.

Team would be 10-2 minimum with even Tommy Armstrong at QB.

Why are you backtracking now? A minute ago you said with those things this is a playoff team. Now it’s 10-2? Which is it? Or do you just not really know what you’re talking about?

As I said, the things that you said kept us from the playoff have now happened or are happening. So playoff 2022 and we all live happily ever after right?
 
Why are you backtracking now? A minute ago you said with those things this is a playoff team. Now it’s 10-2? Which is it? Or do you just not really know what you’re talking about?

As I said, the things that you said kept us from the playoff have now happened or are happening. So playoff 2022 and we all live happily ever after right?
We could have easily been a 1-2 loss team this season, but next year will be different. The defense won’t be as good and who knows if special teams or the offense will be much better? I’m still skeptical we make a bowl next year, but the assistant hires and transfers might change my mind.
 
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We could have easily been a 1-2 loss team this season, but next year will be different. The defense won’t be as good and who knows if special teams or the offense will be much better? I’m still skeptical we make a bowl next year, but the assistant hires and transfers might chance my mind.

I don’t disagree that we could have easily been a 1-2 loss team and I also don’t disagree that coaching hurt. I’m not going to sit here and say that coaching was THEE reason that we aren’t a 1-2 loss team or as the other guy said, a play off contender….

Players have to at some point take some responsibility for poor performance as well.

Can we really blame a coach for our all big ten kicker waking up one day and being a completely different person?
 
I don’t disagree that we could have easily been a 1-2 loss team and I also don’t disagree that coaching hurt. I’m not going to sit here and say that coaching was THEE reason that we aren’t a 1-2 loss team or as the other guy said, a play off contender….

Players have to at some point take some responsibility for poor performance as well.

Can we really blame a coach for our all big ten kicker waking up one day and being a completely different person?
I’m wondering if the crowds had something to do with it? He was fine kicking in empty stadiums. I know that part you can’t blame on the coaches. A question would be is why couldn’t we develop a guy like Cole Frahm or find a capable punter? Also why can’t we develop a punt return game of any kind? At one point this year we had problems fielding punts and we lost a lot of hidden yards. I do blame Frost for special teams because it’s been a problem for four years. I remember it being an issue for Pelini for one year but I’ll give him this he took a much bigger role in special teams and fixed it. Frost has never been able to figure it out for whatever reason.
 
Why are you backtracking now? A minute ago you said with those things this is a playoff team. Now it’s 10-2? Which is it? Or do you just not really know what you’re talking about?

As I said, the things that you said kept us from the playoff have now happened or are happening. So playoff 2022 and we all live happily ever after right?
I listed QB/QB coach, OL coach and half assed special teams unit away. You come at me asking if I truly thought we were only a QB coach and OL coach away from the playoff this year. Try to keep up.
 
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