New Rumor...lol...

[realbp]

Only a retarded person would believe that. Which makes me think the percentage of retarded people in Nebraska is far higher than I could ever imagine.

I think you underestimate how dumb people in Nebraska actually are.

 

[CybrrMonky71]

I can really get into this nothing matter and life is pain vibe you've got going on lately.

To quote a wise man

"Make no mistake. Our days here are numbered and when it comes calling you should pray to your nonexistent god for a quick death.

Please continue to enjoy Arby’s"

Nebraska football has been summed up best when the hippie Santa Claus said,
“Fuck everything
There is no hope
Go Big Red”

That’s where I am

Damn it Fred better not be cock teasing us with the basketball team (but I know he probably is)

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Nebraska football has been summed up best when the hippie Santa Claus said,
“Fuck everything
There is no hope
Go Big Red”

That’s where I am

Damn it Fred better not be cock teasing us with the basketball team (but I know he probably is)

We will see on Nebrasketball

 

[DrinkItIn]

Yep.

Read Chatelain's column today. One thing to say "yeah but 2021 team has freak occurrences/bad luck" so we need to bring Frost back because it couldn't possibly happen again.

Dirk's column exposes that... funny coincidence that Frost has had "bad luck" all four years at NU. What a coincidence. Or maybe you make your own luck and he's just a very shitty coach.

I used to belive the "bad luck" line of thinking but when the same shit happens 4 years in a row, it's not luck.

I've always loved the Branch Rickey quote: "Luck Is The Residue Of Design"

From all we have heard, Frost has been a lazy coach and has had a shit plan from recruiting to game preparedness. The kind of luck NU has been having shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[CybrrMonky71]

Agree.

As the board's outsider here's how I see it.(I realize no one gives AF)

Since the turn of the century Nebraska has fired
- The hand-picked successor of "The Legend".
- An NFL offensive "genius"
- The fan favorite
- The nice guy
All (mostly)regardless of wins/losses for a variety of reasons only the fanbase can justify.

Now there are loud calls for firing the "Favorite Son".

This job has to be viewed as radioactive to coaches with options.

Going all in on Frost sends the signal that Turd will give a coach time(unlike his predecessors) and stop the coaching carousel of the last two decades. Meanwhile he's limiting the financial exposure of a buyout.(Turd seems to be very mindful of the $$) And Scotch just might make it work. If not, after three years the "radioactive" perception has lessened in the coaching community, as will the financial impact of a buyout.(provided they structure the extension appropriately)

Additionally, I feel that this board is the exception. Most of the fanbase(at least the soft-headed psychos I interact with) is fine with Scotch staying.

Cliffs - An extension makes dollars and sense.

You are absolutely correct
The Nebraska job is radioactive
Which is why the “sugar plums & lollipops” dreams of who could take over for Frost are not based in reality
The only thing we can “sell” now is we have a fanbase that is unhealthily obsessed with football. Hence why we are radioactive but it’s the only thing keeping the faint heartbeat of the program beating
Once the fans completely give up, it’s over for good
Nobody is feeling hopeful when Clawson or Narduzzi go 5-7 next year & we look bad in the losses bc we’re going thru a rebuild (Again)

 

[Mavsker]

Agree.

As the board's outsider here's how I see it.(I realize no one gives AF)

Since the turn of the century Nebraska has fired
- The hand-picked successor of "The Legend".
- An NFL offensive "genius"
- The fan favorite
- The nice guy
All (mostly)regardless of wins/losses for a variety of reasons only the fanbase can justify.

Now there are loud calls for firing the "Favorite Son".

This job has to be viewed as radioactive to coaches with options.

Going all in on Frost sends the signal that Turd will give a coach time(unlike his predecessors) and stop the coaching carousel of the last two decades. Meanwhile he's limiting the financial exposure of a buyout.(Turd seems to be very mindful of the $$) And Scotch just might make it work. If not, after three years the "radioactive" perception has lessened in the coaching community, as will the financial impact of a buyout.(provided they structure the extension appropriately)

Additionally, I feel that this board is the exception. Most of the fanbase(at least the soft-headed psychos I interact with) is fine with Scotch staying.

Cliffs - An extension make dollars and sense.

I just don't understand the "radioactive" argument. Since 1998, Nebraska has had 5 coaches. Here's the rest of the conference over the same period for coaches that coached a minimum of 1 full season:

Ohio State: 5
Penn State: 3
Michigan: 4
Michigan St: 5
Indiana: 6
Maryland: 7
Rutgers: 5 (counting Schiano's two stints as two coaches)

Wisconsin: 4
Cockeye: 2
Minnesota: 5
Purdue: 4
Illinois: 5
Northwestern: 3

Big Ten Average: 4.46 coaches over 24 seasons, or one coach every 5.38 seasons.
Nebraska: 5 coaches over 24 seasons, or one coach every 4.8 seasons

Only half a season less average tenure over this period vs the conference average, in a conference that includes two of the longest tenured coaches in the country in Ferentz and Fitzgerald.

Combine that with this fact: none of our fired head coaches have returned to a P5 HC job. Takeaway is that we don't cycle through coaches at an unusual rate, and our firings are clearly viewed as appropriate since no other P5 teams have hired our fired coaches as HCs.

There's no doubt we're a high-pressure gig, but we also:
- Have some of the best fan support in the country
- Can match salary/resources with almost any school in the country
- Will have some of the best facilities in the country
- Regularly able to land top 25 recruiting classes
- Regularly out-recruit every team in our division
- Expectations are low enough that whoever gets hired will probably get 3 years to make a bowl one of the easier divisions in college football

Our fans are just demoralized by the past two decades and are cucking out as a result. We still have a lot of things going for us on paper.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Everyone forgets the “bad luck” has been building & become the culture for years
The LeKevin Fumble against TT
The Terrance Nunn fumble vs Texas
9 fumbles against Cockeyes St
:01 back on the clock
The BYU Hail Mary
The Illinois botched clock bleed
The thunderstorm
& 18 1 score losses under Frost (mostly bizzare)

We don’t have an “eraser” like Suh, Ameer or Rex to turn the tide
Instead we’ve got a once in a decade physical talent at QB who “erases” wins with decisions & now has PTSD so bad he vapor locks under any adversity
Frosts inexperience & compassion for the kid might sink him at Nebraska
But watch him reappear elsewhere in a couple years with a QB who isn’t broken mentally & it looks like UCF Again
While we are in year 2-3 of going 5-7 with Narduzzi or Clawson

You nailed it. You can add VT 2008+VT 2009 to that last too. Seemingly every big statement game moment in Lincoln has led to us stepping on our dicks or getting face fucked. USC 2007, Texas 2010, UCLA 2013, OSU 2019, Michigan 2021, ect.

 

[CybrrMonky71]

I just don't understand the "radioactive" argument. Since 1998, Nebraska has had 5 coaches. Here's the rest of the conference over the same period for coaches that coached a minimum of 1 full season:

Ohio State: 5
Penn State: 3
Michigan: 4
Michigan St: 5
Indiana: 6
Maryland: 7
Rutgers: 5 (counting Schiano's two stints as two coaches)

Wisconsin: 4
Cockeyes: 2
Minnesota: 5
Purdue: 4
Illinois: 5
Northwestern: 3

Big Ten Average: 4.46 coaches over 24 seasons, or one coach every 5.38 seasons.
Nebraska: 5 coaches over 24 seasons, or one coach every 4.8 seasons

Only half a season less average tenure over this period vs the conference average, in a conference that includes two of the longest tenured coaches in the country in Ferentz and Fitzgerald.

Combine that with this fact: none of our fired head coaches have returned to a P5 HC job. Takeaway is that we don't cycle through coaches at an unusual rate, and our firings are clearly viewed as appropriate since no other P5 teams have hired our fired coaches as HCs.

There's no doubt we're a high-pressure gig, but we also:
- Have some of the best fan support in the country
- Can match salary/resources with almost any school in the country
- Will have some of the best facilities in the country
- Regularly able to land top 25 recruiting classes
- Regularly out-recruit every team in our division
- Expectations are low enough that whoever gets hired will probably get 3 years to make a bowl one of the easier divisions in college football

Our fans are just demoralized by the past two decades and are cucking out as a result. We still have a lot of things going for us on paper.

They don’t get gigs after Nebraska bc we ruin them. That’s why it’s radioactive. “All those resources & u can’t win”. It’s takes a promising career & kills it

& nobody is waiting 3 years for a bowl if we make a change
The expectation will be make a bowl next year
Honestly in 2 years we should be pretty good with the schedule
& that’s the risk changing/burning it down now
You have a young offense now that should be mature & ready to lean on an offensive line with a Thunder & Lightning duo in Yant & Rhamir. Just need a QB who doesn’t shit his pants
Change & maybe u scrap what u got/start over. Then u miss the window when the schedule flips

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

They wouldn’t be my first choice, but you have to move on from Frost. Both are a lot better coaches at the power 5 level. Frost is as bad as it gets.

Narduzzi benefits from playing in a shitty ACC, and even then he's a 7-5 coach. They'll do slightly better than that this year in an even worse ACC with a QB who may go in the first round. Was on the hot seat going into this year because he hadn't really done anything. We hire him, what, because he beat a down Clemson team? PASS

Clawson at Wake (3-9, 3-9, 7-6, 8-5, 7-6, 8-5, 4-5, 8-0). Sure, their offense is great this year and they have a unique twist on the RPO they've developed. They were still 4-5 last year with that same system (with Kenneth fucking Walker at RB who is the top candidate for the Heisman). They benefit from having a 6th year senior QB and I would prefer to see if that system is beyond a one year flash in the pan before you pay $30 million to get it. And even this year when they are "breaking through" they have 70-56 games against Army. PASS

 

[Mavsker]

They don’t get gigs after Nebraska bc we ruin them. That’s why it’s radioactive. “All those resources & u can’t win”. It’s takes a promising career & kills it

& nobody is waiting 3 years for a bowl if we make a change
The expectation will be make a bowl next year
Honestly in 2 years we should be pretty good with the schedule
& that’s the risk changing/burning it down now
You have a young offense now that should be mature & ready to lean on an offensive line with a Thunder & Lightning duo in Yant & Rhamir. Just need a QB who doesn’t shit his pants
Change & maybe u scrap what u got/start over. Then u miss the window when the schedule flips

- There is no way the next coach will be fired after year two, even if he doesn't make a bowl. If we're here debating whether to give Frost 5+ years without a bowl, we'll give anyone three.
- We "should have been good" for some time now and it hasn't happened
- Our problems extend far beyond the QB position. I don't think the QB position is even one of our three biggest issues. Bigger issues on special teams, OL, and creating turnovers imo.
- I don't think by changing coaches we'd be burning anything down that wasn't already burnt to the ground. You can't finish with the same (or worse) record in year 4 as in an underachieving year 1 and claim to be "building". No coach gets 5 years anywhere that gives a damn without making a bowl. Not only are we not going to make a bowl, it's a toss-up as to whether we get to 4 wins!

 

[22*43*51]

I just don't understand the "radioactive" argument. Since 1998, Nebraska has had 5 coaches. Here's the rest of the conference over the same period for coaches that coached a minimum of 1 full season:

Ohio State: 5
Penn State: 3
Michigan: 4
Michigan St: 5
Indiana: 6
Maryland: 7
Rutgers: 5 (counting Schiano's two stints as two coaches)

Wisconsin: 4
Cockeyes: 2
Minnesota: 5
Purdue: 4
Illinois: 5
Northwestern: 3

Big Ten Average: 4.46 coaches over 24 seasons, or one coach every 5.38 seasons.
Nebraska: 5 coaches over 24 seasons, or one coach every 4.8 seasons

Only half a season less average tenure over this period vs the conference average, in a conference that includes two of the longest tenured coaches in the country in Ferentz and Fitzgerald.

Combine that with this fact: none of our fired head coaches have returned to a P5 HC job. Takeaway is that we don't cycle through coaches at an unusual rate, and our firings are clearly viewed as appropriate since no other P5 teams have hired our fired coaches as HCs.

There's no doubt we're a high-pressure gig, but we also:
- Have some of the best fan support in the country
- Can match salary/resources with almost any school in the country
- Will have some of the best facilities in the country
- Regularly able to land top 25 recruiting classes
- Regularly out-recruit every team in our division
- Expectations are low enough that whoever gets hired will probably get 3 years to make a bowl one of the easier divisions in college football

Our fans are just demoralized by the past two decades and are cucking out as a result. We still have a lot of things going for us on paper.

Those other vacancies can be explained largely by performance. Normal metrics for success/failure(wins and losses)

There has been little normal performance indicators attached to the Nebraska hires/fires.

Understanding what success looks like at Nebraska is a moving target.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Those other vacancies can be explained largely by performance. Normal metrics for success/failure(wins and losses)

There has been little normal performance indicators attached to the Nebraska hires/fires.

Understanding what success looks like at Nebraska is a moving target.

Not really.

 

[22*43*51]

Not really.

Again, just my opinion as an outsideher.

What does success look like?

 

[Alcaus]

Again, just my opinion as an outsideher.

What does success look like?

At this point it's being competitive in games you're not supposed to win and winning the games you're favored in. Make a bowl game.

Pretty low for a Blue Blood program.

 

[Drue629]

I'm just at the point where if we don't get a big name hire like Lane or #2ndChoice then I'd rather keep Frost another year. Some of these "under the radar" names that people are bringing up make me want to puke

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Again, just my opinion as an outsideher.

What does success look like?

Competing to win the big ten west every season. Not necessarily winning it, but hanging in the 8-4, 9-3 range with late season games actually having consequences, like for instance, if we run out to 6-0 and get up to #2, we have something to blow late in the year. But being competitive at the top of the division isn't an unreasonable expectation in this festering asshole of a division.

Frost is failing at a level that would get him shit canned almost everywhere

 

[dsbigred1]

I w

Again, just my opinion as an outsideher.

What does success look like?

I would say looking disciplined and consistent would be success after the last 7 years. The team hasn't done that in all 3 phases of a game but for maybe a few times during that span. Do those things, and several losses turn to wins.

 

[Lionsfan93]

You absolutely do not move on from Frost unless it is your top 1-3 choices and guys that are proven P5 guys. A big ten D coordinator or position coach (Alford) that some have alluded to would be a very poor choice l, and better work fast. If you do move on from Frost this year I think to sell it, it better be someone that really moves the needle. Husker fans are over coaching searches.

So you think Husker fans are content with losing because they are tired of coaching searches? I think Husker fans are tired of the hype behind coaching searches, but are perfectly fine with the idea of them if a change is deemed necessary. I don't think it is even debatable at this point, a change is necessary.

What if you could eat shit for another year and then eat prime rib rather than being stuck with chicken that could be filled with shit?

I'm so at a loss with this analogy. I don't want shit, plain and simple. Or at least the least amount of shit as possible. We know we have shit with Frost. Make a change. Maybe we end up with shit again...but it's our only shot at prime rib or even chicken.

 

[Ext. 55]

Everyone forgets the “bad luck” has been building & become the culture for years
The LeKevin Fumble against TT
The Terrance Nunn fumble vs Texas
9 fumbles against Cockeyes St
:01 back on the clock
The BYU Hail Mary
The Illinois botched clock bleed
The thunderstorm
& 18 1 score losses under Frost (mostly bizzare)

We don’t have an “eraser” like Suh, Ameer or Rex to turn the tide
Instead we’ve got a once in a decade physical talent at QB who “erases” wins with decisions & now has PTSD so bad he vapor locks under any adversity
Frosts inexperience & compassion for the kid might sink him at Nebraska
But watch him reappear elsewhere in a couple years with a QB who isn’t broken mentally & it looks like UCF Again
While we are in year 2-3 of going 5-7 with Narduzzi or Clawson

Was just thinking about the bad luck 'things' last night...love this. Timely post. Forgot about the BYU hail mary! Good post.

 

[dsbigred1]

So you think Husker fans are content with losing because they are tired of coaching searches? I think Husker fans are tired of the hype behind coaching searches, but are perfectly fine with the idea of them if a change is deemed necessary. I don't think it is even debatable at this point, a change is necessary.

I'm so at a loss with this analogy. I don't want shit, plain and simple. Or at least the least amount of shit as possible. We know we have shit with Frost. Make a change. Maybe we end up with shit again...but it's our only shot at prime rib or even chicken.

What would you think if lamb was on the menu?