Mickey

[BIGSTICK67]

If we got to a point in our search where’s it was time to talk compensation and approached high level candidates with a “take it or leave it” offer we deserve to fold.

Incentives are fine for the right items, and should be expected; but they should also be attainable. I want to say Harbaugh's contract is pretty heavily incentivized with winning the division and conference. That's where you should be earning your big bonuses, because they're harder to attain.

Regarding compensation overall, I'd agree. You have to make your guy say no - within reason. But it'd be scary if we were nickel and diming a proven coach, and trying to make him earn most of it through something that's borderline unattainable on a consistent basis.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

The concern I have about Mickey is whether or not he has an offensive or defensive system of play he believes in. He seems content to let Whipple call the games without input. In Mickey’s shoes, there would be no chance I’m hanging my hopes on Whipple or anybody else without input.

The head coach needs to have a system of play he believes in on at least one side of the ball. He can hire an OC with similar beliefs. He must convince Turd that he has a plan, direction, and “...here is how we are going to get there.”

Hoping you can find a good OC and DC isn’t much of a strategy.

Or perhaps what some are saying is true, that Mickey doesn’t want the head job. I don’t know about that.

Rumor is we might see some of that influence this coming Saturday with our 2nd string QB. Which I think is smart.

I've wanted that to happen all season, and it also keeps Thompson healthier.

 

[...TrueColors...]

Incentives are fine for the right items, and should be expected; but they should also be attainable. I want to say Harbaugh's contract is pretty heavily incentivized with winning the division and conference. That's where you should be earning your big bonuses, because they're harder to attain.

Regarding compensation overall, I'd agree. You have to make your guy say no - within reason. But it'd be scary if we were nickel and diming a proven coach, and trying to make him earn most of it through something that's borderline unattainable on a consistent basis.

That’s exactly right and I defer to your professional experience there. I’m just not buying the idea that we’ve essentially priced our job under the market rate for the job with contract terms like have been suggested.

 

[Blakejc]

Pay for performance is always going to be the line for every board room. Article is trying to say it's a lower base + high incentive comp. Not saying the dude knows anything because it's the internet, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was TA's vibe.

This. Mel Tucker and Jimbo are reason enough to second guess the huge guaranteed contract to the “sure thing”. Heavily incentivized contracts might be where the industry is headed. Worked for Michigan and Harbaugh when they restructured.

 

[huskerj12]

The concern I have about Mickey is whether or not he has an offensive or defensive system of play he believes in. He seems content to let Whipple call the games without input. In Mickey’s shoes, there would be no chance I’m hanging my hopes on Whipple or anybody else without input.

The head coach needs to have a system of play he believes in on at least one side of the ball. He can hire an OC with similar beliefs. He must convince Turd that he has a plan, direction, and “...here is how we are going to get there.”

Hoping you can find a good OC and DC isn’t much of a strategy.

Or perhaps what some are saying is true, that Mickey doesn’t want the head job. I don’t know about that.

Agree. I think he has the exact right leadership style/mentality we need at NU and pretty much all of his intangibles would fit like a glove. But the Xs and Os stuff matters too, and I don't think we've gotten info from Mickey about what direction he'd take things if he got the job.

I totally understand why he hasn't gotten into that, it wouldn't be his style at all to take his eye off the ball right now and start daydreaming to the press, but I'm definitely very curious about it.

 

[Jay Bilzerian]

This. Mel Tucker and Jimbo are reason enough to second guess the huge guaranteed contract to the “sure thing”. Heavily incentivized contracts might be where the industry is headed. Worked for Michigan and Harbaugh when they restructured.

Michigan had leverage over Harbaugh. We don’t have fuck all for leverage at the moment. I do hope the industry moves that way as these contracts and their buyouts have gotten obscene.

 

[Juro]

I like Mickey and wouldn’t mind him taking over …. if our HC got bought up by someone else.

But we’ve been losing badly for the last ten years. We need a guy who will get the results.

 

[Milo-of-Croton]

Rumor is we might see some of that influence this coming Saturday with our 2nd string QB. Which I think is smart.

I've wanted that to happen all season, and it also keeps Thompson healthier.

I am hoping that comes to fruition. We need a more 'creative' running game. Making yourself one dimensional worked against Purdue but it won't work against most teams. I know some on here really like Whipple as an OC. I'm not one of them. It all boils down to philosophy I guess.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

I am hoping that comes to fruition. We need a more 'creative' running game. Making yourself one dimensional worked against Purdue but it won't work against most teams. I know some on here really like Whipple as an OC. I'm not one of them. It all boils down to philosophy I guess.

Whipple's offense works great if you have Jordan Addison, a Heisman finalist QB, and a good OL.

 

[djw004]

I'm referring to this, which is bleak as fuck. https://huskercorner.com/2022/10/24/nebraska-football-coaching-search-doom/

"From the same source that stated Chinander was being fired and Busch put in the D Coordinator role..."

sooooo....fucking, ANYONE with a brain? Was there anyone that didn't know Chins wasn't staying longer than a week after daddy was clipped? what a vague, pay attention to me, discuss my thoughts, attention whore of an article.

Oliver Vandervoort sounds Cockeye as fuck.

 

[djw004]

Huskercorner used to employ Brandon Cavanaugh and if that's not enough for you, idk what is.

 

[djw004]

Pay for performance is always going to be the line for every board room. Article is trying to say it's a lower base + high incentive comp. Not saying the dude knows anything because it's the internet, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was TA's vibe.

Turd is more concerned about attracting the RIGHT guy than impressing a board room. He knows that the most impressive attribute in a board room is a job well done. Rich people boostering an athletic program don't want to hear about how you're going to save them money, they want to hear about how you're going to run a championship program.

 

[djw004]

Incentives are fine for the right items, and should be expected; but they should also be attainable. I want to say Harbaugh's contract is pretty heavily incentivized with winning the division and conference. That's where you should be earning your big bonuses, because they're harder to attain.

Regarding compensation overall, I'd agree. You have to make your guy say no - within reason. But it'd be scary if we were nickel and diming a proven coach, and trying to make him earn most of it through something that's borderline unattainable on a consistent basis.

EXACTLY. You incentivize unproven...you PAY proven performance. Anyone can match incentive contracts because the incentives are going to cover their own costs in one way or another. Harbaugh's is incentive based because he wasn't CLOSE to producing what he was signed on for.

We have the luxury of being able to drop our monetary dick on the table with proven guys. Going to proven coaches saying "IF you can do well, we will pay you" is a non-starter

 

[djw004]

This. Mel Tucker and Jimbo are reason enough to second guess the huge guaranteed contract to the “sure thing”. Heavily incentivized contracts might be where the industry is headed. Worked for Michigan and Harbaugh when they restructured.

I don't know any level headed individual that thought the Mel Tucker contract made any amount of sense. They signed up for a shit year (at least) as soon as they inked that deal.

 

[Alcaus]

This. Mel Tucker and Jimbo are reason enough to second guess the huge guaranteed contract to the “sure thing”. Heavily incentivized contracts might be where the industry is headed. Worked for Michigan and Harbaugh when they restructured.

But it's not, though.

No "incentive-laden" contract is pulling a guy from a major conference program already making $6 million to rebuild Nebraska. The top-30 HCs in the country are already making $6 million at their respective schools.

 

[Blakejc]

But it's not, though.

No "incentive-laden" contract is pulling a guy from a major conference program already making $6 million to rebuild Nebraska. The top-30 HCs in the country are already making $6 million at their respective schools.

I don’t think Turd is trying to lure anyone with an offer that’s less than they currently make. That seems moronic.

I could see offering a lot of guys $1M more than they currently make and bunch of reachable goal bonuses that baloons their salary.

But I don’t want to get too far down the rabbit hole of speculating contract strategy because I don’t know shit about it.

 

[Alcaus]

I don’t think Turd is trying to lure anyone with an offer that’s less than they currently make. That seems moronic.

I could see offering a lot of guys $1M more than they currently make and bunch of reachable goal bonuses that baloons their salary.

But I don’t want to get too far down the rabbit hole of speculating contract strategy because I don’t know shit about it.

Very few of us know what we’re talking about so no worries there.

I think the only candidate not making $5 is Leipold and Kleiman. Pretty wild.

 

[Ext. 55]

I'm referring to this, which is bleak as fuck. https://huskercorner.com/2022/10/24/nebraska-football-coaching-search-doom/

 

[Irv]

Whatever incentive we can give to a guy for winning a national title cannot be enough. Lifetime contract, lifetime contracts for his children and grandchildren, tax-exempt status, private jets, right to Purge whenever necessary or just when sounds like fun -- it should all be offered.

 

[MtnHusker]

I hope we don't cheap out. Hire the best coach we can get. We have the money plus boosters that will potentially chip in more if needed. Once again I want to compete with the OSU's & Michigan's of our conference and ask myself who would they be looking at hiring? Let's emulate the successful programs. Hire a proven Power5 Winner as we have the financial resources, conference, facilities and tradition..

I'm tired of the Husker Fans who think the Nebraska Job is so difficult as we are handcuffed thus no good proven coach would want it. Memorial Stadium. rocks. Our Fan Support rocks. Our Athletic Department has deep pockets. We soon will have arguably once of the best facilities in the country. We are still mentioned as a Blue Blood by some of the media. We have boosters that will financially support the program and NIL $$$ for the players. We are in one of the top conferences for football, academics and financial stability. All we need is the right coach.