KSU & Utah

[Gman1228]

But they can help get talent here especially with NIL.

That’s not the talent we need. We need sustainable success and that doesn’t come from the portal.

Programs we should be looking to copy are Utah, Kstate, Cockeye, Wisconsin etc. The issue is Nebraska doesn’t have the patience for that and we are stuck in this limbo where we think we are above those programs so we never accept the rebuild process.

The people who matter in and around this program have to let Rhule do this his way. I have doubts he’ll be able to do it but we have to see it through for the long haul.

 

[ac husker]

That’s not the talent we need. We need sustainable success and that doesn’t come from the portal.

Programs we should be looking to copy are Utah, Kstate, Cockeye, Wisconsin etc. The issue is Nebraska doesn’t have the patience for that and we are stuck in this limbo where we think we are above those programs so we never accept the rebuild process.

The people who matter in and around this program have to let Rhule do this his way. I have doubts he’ll be able to do it but we have to see it through for the long haul.

I agree that the fans are impatient. Hopefully TA is not.

 

[Gman1228]

Do Utah and/or KSU have any advantages over our program outside of finding the right coach?

They’ve had sustainable success for 20 years now so they obviously have something. I think Nebraska fans are delusional with comments like these. Programs have won multiple championships since we’ve sniffed our last one and we somehow think we are better?

We have all sorts of challenges that make this a really, really hard job and we’ve had shit coaching added on top of it.

 

[Cash68847]

That’s not the talent we need. We need sustainable success and that doesn’t come from the portal.

Programs we should be looking to copy are Utah, Kstate, Cockeye, Wisconsin etc. The issue is Nebraska doesn’t have the patience for that and we are stuck in this limbo where we think we are above those programs so we never accept the rebuild process.

The people who matter in and around this program have to let Rhule do this his way. I have doubts he’ll be able to do it but we have to see it through for the long haul.

I hate to say it but if teams like K-State produce some good players they will leave for NIL. Coaches are going to have to figure it out and it should be an advantage to Nebraska going forward.

 

[ac husker]

They’ve had sustainable success for 20 years now so they obviously have something. I think Nebraska fans are delusional with comments like these. Programs have won multiple championships since we’ve sniffed our last one and we somehow think we are better?

We have all sorts of challenges that make this a really, really hard job and we’ve had shit coaching added on top of it.

KSU has had sustained success? Multiple championships? I’m missing something. They were terrible after Snyder left the first time.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

Honestly, why do you think this? What makes us any different than any other dwindling program out there?

Just look around college football. It's about getting the right coach.

 

[ac husker]

I hate to say it but if teams like K-State produce some good players they will leave for NIL. Coaches are going to have to figure it out and it should be an advantage to Nebraska going forward.

Other than recruiting, which we’ve still finished with higher ranked classes than both teams, what disadvantages are there?

 

[Gman1228]

Just look around college football. It's about getting the right coach.

It’s also about putting the coach in the correct situation. Don’t people see a pattern of coaches coming here and flaming out? Maaaaaybeeee we should look in the mirror and see that we are the problem.

 

[Cash68847]

Other than recruiting, which we’ve still finished with higher ranked classes than both teams, what disadvantages are there?

It’s two things recruiting and coaching to me. I agree it’s about getting the right coach. This coaching cycle proved Nebraska is still a decent job when they got Rhule and could have got #2ndChoice, two of the biggest names on the market.

 

[Gman1228]

Other than recruiting, which we’ve still finished with higher ranked classes than both teams, what disadvantages are there?

0 stability with all sorts of disfunction from the top down. We also recruit the wrong type of player as we think we should compete for “championships” lmao. We recruit attention whores. We recruit dudes who fit a measurable and aren’t actually football players. It’s been an issue for a long time.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

It’s also about putting the coach in the correct situation. Don’t people see a pattern of coaches coming here and flaming out? Maaaaaybeeee we should look in the mirror and see that we are the problem.

At the same time, I don't see coaches flaming out for infinity. It's like anything - the pendulum always swings.

 

[ac husker]

It’s also about putting the coach in the correct situation. Don’t people see a pattern of coaches coming here and flaming out? Maaaaaybeeee we should look in the mirror and see that we are the problem.

0 stability with all sorts of disfunction from the top down. We also recruit the wrong type of player as we think we should compete for “championships” lmao. We recruit attention whores. We recruit dudes who fit a measurable and aren’t actually football players. It’s been an issue for a long time.

But isn’t that on the coach? Find the right coach and that doesn’t happen.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

0 stability with all sorts of disfunction from the top down. We also recruit the wrong type of player as we think we should compete for “championships” lmao. We recruit attention whores. We recruit dudes who fit a measurable and aren’t actually football players. It’s been an issue for a long time.

You're starting to sound like Truckster in this thread.

 

[Cash68847]

0 stability with all sorts of disfunction from the top down. We also recruit the wrong type of player as we think we should compete for “championships” lmao. We recruit attention whores. We recruit dudes who fit a measurable and aren’t actually football players. It’s been an issue for a long time.

Who is we? Frost and Riley. Pelini didn’t recruit that type of player.

 

[BIGSTICK67]

It’s two things recruiting and coaching to me. I agree it’s about getting the right coach. This coaching cycle proved Nebraska is still a decent job when they got Rhule and could have got #2ndChoice, two of the biggest names on the market.

Absolutely. We finally did a full search and look what happened.

 

[Gman1228]

But isn’t that on the coach? Find the right coach and that doesn’t happen.

Coaches have to fit a certain mold to be good enough for Nebraska. Who’s the last coach we’ve had here that was comfortable in their own skin?

Who is we? Frost and Riley. Pelini didn’t recruit that type of player.

And he got run and people continually bitched about his recruiting.

 

[Cash68847]

Coaches have to fit a certain mold to be good enough for Nebraska. Who’s the last coach we’ve had here that was comfortable in their own skin?


And he got run and people continually bitched about his recruiting.

If you got continually ran you’re not winning 9 games a year. Every FBS program uses measurables to a degree by the way. Like others have said hire the right coach. It’s easier said than done.

 

[God is a Husker]

Bruh come on. Big 10 west was dog shit this year and Nebraska won what, 2 games in division play?

Not sure, but Minnesota, Illinois or Purdue would have probably won 9 or 10 tho.

Penn State, Michigan and Ohio State would have went 12-0

 

[Gman1228]

KSU has had sustained success? Multiple championships? I’m missing something. They were terrible after Snyder left the first time.

They have won 3 conference championships since 2003, we have 0. They almost won the Natty in 2012 and have played in several major bowls while we have played in 0.

We would thrilled to have their success over the last 20 years. They struggled under Prince but he was just a complete ass clown. They recovered fine once Snyder came back.

 

[Gman1228]

I hate to say it but if teams like K-State produce some good players they will leave for NIL. Coaches are going to have to figure it out and it should be an advantage to Nebraska going forward.

Not true at all. They have dudes this year that would start anywhere in the country, why didn't they leave?