Breaking John Butler DC

[Samkellers_69]

It's funny how everyone is like how can you be annoyed or under whelmed by this. It's because we consistently make the wrong hires in key places and we've done it for the better part of 2 decades for fuck sake.

It seems We're the only Blue blood that can't go out and hire proven anything. Fuck I think we're the only Blue blood program to ever be down this long as a program.

 

[Bootleg11]

I'm guessing Snow is going to be more of an analyst, but I suppose Rhule will lay all that out in a press conference in the near future. If he's an on the field coach then it makes sense that he would be the safeties coach and Nebraska brings in either a corners coach or Butler takes the corners.

 

[wildcat_husker]

"Fans know nothing, trust Rhule"

-- Marcus Satterfield

 

[Pro_V_DMB]

It's funny how everyone is like how can you be annoyed or under whelmed by this. It's because we consistently make the wrong hires in key places and we've done it for the better part of 2 decades for fuck sake.

It seems We're the only Blue blood that can't go out and hire proven anything. Fuck I think we're the only Blue blood program to ever be down this long as a program.

Yikes

 

[cwessel76]

You guys love to bitch man.

Why was Tony White some Godsend and Butler is chopped liver? It’s not like White was some super experienced DC. Rhule has had good defenses everywhere he has been. I don’t expect that to change.

I like that Snow will be there and I definitely like hiring someone from the Chiefs that has been coaching one of the better D-Lines in the NFL the last several years.

I think I like it more knowing how many of you are freaking out.

The LBs and DBs weren’t communicating…that’s in the DC.

 

[Flabio]

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I took that more as him saying he doesn’t want to hire someone who is going to run an entirely new system that doesn’t fit the current personnel on the team or recruiting profile of guys we’ve scouted.

I’m sure there will be scheme differences next year.

Yeah when Rhule said that I kinda wondered if it would be Butler. I don’t think Rhule is wanting to be a hands off CEO on both sides of the ball yet. He knows what he’s doing and he wants to coach D. I like the Snow hire. That is the one element that Rhule was missing in this rebuild that he had at all prior stops. Now it’s time to get as many difference makers as we can from the portal and sign up a DB coach.

 

[Flabio]

Butler was definitely not in my top tier of candidates. However, that does not make this a bad hire. Gaetz St promoted him to DC back in 2013 and he was a finalist for the Bills' DC job.

• Midwestern State (1999–2000)
  Defensive coordinator/linebackers coach/safeties coach
• Southwest Texas State (2001–2002)
  Special teams coach/safeties coach
• Harvard (2003–2006)
  Special teams coach/linebackers coach
• Minnesota (2007–2010)
  Special teams coach/linebackers coach
• South Carolina (2011)
  Special teams coach/linebackers coach
• Gaetz State (2012)
  Defensive backs coach
• Gaetz State (2013)
  Defensive coordinator/defensive backs coach
• Houston Texans (2014–2017)
  Secondary coach
• Buffalo Bills (2018–2021)
  Defensive backs coach
• Buffalo Bills (2022–2023)
  Defensive backs coach/passing game coordinator
• Nebraska Cornhuskers (2024-present)
  Secondary/Defensive pass game coordinator

He has a legit resume to sell to D recruits and the D staff (pending stud DB hire) now has NFL coaches who can get them ready for the next level.

 

[cwessel76]

Butler was definitely not in my top tier of candidates. However, that does not make this a bad hire. Gaetz St promoted him to DC back in 2013 and he was a finalist for the Bills' DC job.

• Midwestern State (1999–2000)
  Defensive coordinator/linebackers coach/safeties coach
• Southwest Texas State (2001–2002)
  Special teams coach/safeties coach
• Harvard (2003–2006)
  Special teams coach/linebackers coach
• Minnesota (2007–2010)
  Special teams coach/linebackers coach
• South Carolina (2011)
  Special teams coach/linebackers coach
• Gaetz State (2012)
  Defensive backs coach
• Gaetz State (2013)
  Defensive coordinator/defensive backs coach
• Houston Texans (2014–2017)
  Secondary coach
• Buffalo Bills (2018–2021)
  Defensive backs coach
• Buffalo Bills (2022–2023)
  Defensive backs coach/passing game coordinator
• Nebraska Cornhuskers (2024-present)
  Secondary/Defensive pass game coordinator

He’s who we have now. We have no choice but to go with it.

 

[Fargo Husker]

I'm guessing Snow is going to be more of an analyst, but I suppose Rhule will lay all that out in a press conference in the near future. If he's an on the field coach then it makes sense that he would be the safeties coach and Nebraska brings in either a corners coach or Butler takes the corners.

My ultimate, pie in the sky, hope is that Rhule will convince Dave Merritt to come from the Chiefs to coach his son’s team and be DB/PGC for defense.

 

[Husker1]

What’s also bizarre about this hiring (aside from the timing) is that Rhule explicitly said he wants to “keep running our defense” which has been a 3-man front base. I believe Butler has only exclusively worked for 4 man front disciples (BOB and McDermott)

 

[Sous Chef]

I assume so

This was the plan...

 

[Lionsfan93]

He has a legit resume to sell to D recruits and the D staff (pending stud DB hire) now has NFL coaches who can get them ready for the next level.

Exactly. I don't "love" the hire and am definitely let down that it is not Leonhard/Arnett/Symons. But he isn't a bad hire either.

 

[Alcaus]

Not big name hires but I don't see anything to really freak out about.

Would prefer a proven DC but I don't think Butler is a bad coach all of a sudden.

The first two years under Rhule are going to be an unenforced error by not reading the tea leaves correctly. Being a "developmental program" isn't going to work out in this new landscape of CFB. The Nebraska vs. Colorado culture comparison is decided imo and Colorado won, at least for now and in the early tenure of any head coach wins are paramount.

Now this could be temporary if contracts become the norm moving forward but in the interim we left wins on the table in the hope that our development would generate wins on the backend. It's obvious you can't bank on your talented recruits sticking around but I'm pretty confident in Rhule's ability to pivot.

I don't think it's hyperbole to say this offseason is going to make or break him (shocker heading into year 3, I know).

 

[Bootleg11]

It's funny how everyone is like how can you be annoyed or under whelmed by this. It's because we consistently make the wrong hires in key places and we've done it for the better part of 2 decades for fuck sake.

It seems We're the only Blue blood that can't go out and hire proven anything. Fuck I think we're the only Blue blood program to ever be down this long as a program.

Yeah you're right.

Venables is on his 3rd OC right?
USC completely revamped their defensive staff last year.
Florida St just completely revamped both of their offensive and defensive staff.
Miami revamped both of their offensive and defensive staff last year.
LSU just had to hire another offensive coordinator and had to hire a defensive coordinator last year.
Michigan just got their offensive coordinator hire wrong and had to re-start.

Maybe in this era of college football it's just really hard to hire coordinators?

 

[Ext. 55]

We're going to the Ship!

 

[...TrueColors...]

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I took that more as him saying he doesn’t want to hire someone who is going to run an entirely new system that doesn’t fit the current personnel on the team or recruiting profile of guys we’ve scouted.

I’m sure there will be scheme differences next year.

I’m not going to sit here and say this is all bad.

We’ve got a ton of wood to chop on defense and I’m not sure if this move lightens the load.

 

[COYS]

Butler plus Snow seems like an extremely qualified duo to me.

Curious if Butler will stay coaching DB’s or if we will hire a DB’s coach now?

 

[tedfordtony]

For those saying DBs took a step back, In 2023 Nebraska allowed 2,527 passing yards, 210 ypg
in 2024 with Butler Nebraska allowed 2,516 passing yards, 209 ypg

 

[Bootleg11]

My ultimate, pie in the sky, hope is that Rhule will convince Dave Merritt to come from the Chiefs to coach his son’s team and be DB/PGC for defense.

That would be an absolute wild move by Merritt to do that lol

 

[Bootleg11]

For those saying DBs took a step back, In 2023 Nebraska allowed 2,527 passing yards, 210 ypg
in 2024 with Butler Nebraska allowed 2,516 passing yards, 209 ypg

That's with a few starters out all year and a worse pass rush and vs a tougher schedule.