Breaking John Butler DC

[Irv]

Rhule is nothing if not a salesman. In (very short) hindsight, it seems like a bit of a tell that they leaked Butler almost simultaneously with Snow and Bradden. Normally, you would think you’d want to make the DC hire the story. Rhule found himself much better optics.

 

[mcgradynu]

It's funny how everyone is like how can you be annoyed or under whelmed by this. It's because we consistently make the wrong hires in key places and we've done it for the better part of 2 decades for fuck sake.

It seems We're the only Blue blood that can't go out and hire proven anything. Fuck I think we're the only Blue blood program to ever be down this long as a program.

Where does the Holgorsen hire fit into this narrative?

 

[Fargo Husker]

Rhule is nothing if not a salesman. In (very short) hindsight, it seems like a bit of a tell that they leaked Butler almost simultaneously with Snow and Bradden. Normally, you would think you’d want to make the DC hire the story. Rhule found himself much better optics.

Wouldn’t it make more sense that he wanted to announce all the hires at the same time since we have defensive transfers visiting 12 hours from now?

 

[mcgradynu]

For those saying DBs took a step back, In 2023 Nebraska allowed 2,527 passing yards, 210 ypg
in 2024 with Butler Nebraska allowed 2,516 passing yards, 209 ypg

Thanks for bringing this to the discourse. This is interesting to see!

 

[Irv]

Wouldn’t it make more sense that he wanted to announce all the hires at the same time since we have defensive transfers visiting 12 hours from now?

Maybe but I don’t think you have to announce them for guys who are on campus. The leaking to Thamel is for fans and the rest of the press. Presumably (hopefully) they are communicating directly with guys who are here in 12 hours.

 

[jaihawk]

Thanks for bringing this to the discourse. This is interesting to see!

I think one major thing that gets lost regarding Butler's performance this year, outside of an injury to one of his starting CB's is that White's calls dictated the coverage we played. White loved to play soft zone, which is going to really allow the stats to pile up. I can't tell you how many times I yelled from my seats in Memorial or at the TV about that.

 

[Samkellers_69]

Where does the Holgorsen hire fit into this narrative?

What do you mean? He should have been given the OC position last off season and we didn't. Nebraska fucked that up. Typical. Like I said Nebraska likes to talk like we're a Blue blood with lots of money but our hires continued to be G5 hires until Holgs took over with 3 games left.

Also comparing a dude with massive amounts of college experience from HC at multiple places, an OC a 3 different places, a really good play caller, great position coach by all accounts. Coached under the crazy mind of Mike Leach.

There's nothing to compare here.

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

Thanks for bringing this to the discourse. This is interesting to see!

It doesn’t fit the narrative.

 

[mcgradynu]

What do you mean? He should have been given the OC position last off season and we didn't. Nebraska fucked that up. Typical. Like I said Nebraska likes to talk like we're a Blue blood with lots of money but our hires continued to be G5 hires until Holgs took over with 3 games left.

Also comparing a dude with massive amounts of college experience from HC at multiple places, an OC a 3 different places, a really good play caller, great position coach by all accounts. Coached under the crazy mind of Mike Leach.

There's nothing to compare here.

I was pointing out that the Holgorsen hire refuted your line that “it seems we’re the only Blue blood that can’t go out and hire proven anything”. A lot of hyperbole in this thread.

 

[Toe]

For those saying DBs took a step back, In 2023 Nebraska allowed 2,527 passing yards, 210 ypg
in 2024 with Butler Nebraska allowed 2,516 passing yards, 209 ypg

We also faced some offenses that weren't as shitty as the ones we faced last year.

 

[herbsinator]

What do you mean? He should have been given the OC position last off season and we didn't. Nebraska fucked that up. Typical. Like I said Nebraska likes to talk like we're a Blue blood with lots of money but our hires continued to be G5 hires until Holgs took over with 3 games left.

Also comparing a dude with massive amounts of college experience from HC at multiple places, an OC a 3 different places, a really good play caller, great position coach by all accounts. Coached under the crazy mind of Mike Leach.

There's nothing to compare here.

FYI—Holgs was offered last offseason and turned it down.

 

[Samkellers_69]

I was pointing out that the Holgorsen hire refuted your line that “it seems we’re the only Blue blood that can’t go out and hire proven anything”. A lot of hyperbole in this thread.

Maybe so. But just imagine if we acted like that before there was 3 games left in the season. there was a lot more evidence Holgs was gonna work out compared to Butler.

There is also a whole lot of people doing the Mike Riley-esque coping mechanism going on in this thread.

 

[Samkellers_69]

FYI—Holgs was offered last offseason and turned it down.

Because he didn't want to be Co-OC with Satt I am pretty sure if I remember the nugs correctly

 

[Tonkasker]

I think one major thing that gets lost regarding Butler's performance this year, outside of an injury to one of his starting CB's is that White's calls dictated the coverage we played. White loved to play soft zone, which is going to really allow the stats to pile up. I can't tell you how many times I yelled from my seats in Memorial or at the TV about that.

Drove me insane watching every scrub qb convert five 3rd and 6s a game

But we never gave up a bomb 😎

 

[turek420845]

Let’s just give it a shot guys, not like we can be much worse than we’ve been the last decade. I think Butler will do a good job.

If we’re not Top 20 total defense next season I’ll post my wife’s nudes.

I would like to request a photo beforehand before I take the bait. Slightly clothed would be suffice.

 

[turek420845]

OC Dana Holgs
QB Glenn Thomas
RB - EJ Barthel
FB - Ron Brown
WR - Daikiel Shorts
WR - Jamar Mozzee
TE - Marcus Satterfield
TE - Keith Williams
OL - Don Raiola
OL - Aaron Coeling

DC - John Butler
DL - Terry Bradden
Edge - Phillip Simpson
LB - Rob Dvroacek
S - ?
CB - ?
Rover - ?
Assistant db - Adam Dimichelle

ST - Ed Foley
Ed Foley assistant - Josh Martin
Returners - Ron Brown
K - Brett Maher
P - ?


Missing anything here?

Not missing, but have one coach on there that needs to be a scratch.

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

Drove me insane watching every scrub qb convert five 3rd and 6s a game

But we never gave up a bomb 😎

Did you watch Indiana game? Our fans JFC

 

[herbsinator]

Has anyone stopped to consider that with what Holgs is cooking up on offense, we aren’t even going to need a defense?

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Has anyone stopped to consider that with what Holgs is cooking up on offense, we aren’t even going to need a defense?

Another lost point is that the last NFL assistant with little to no DC experience that Nebraska hired ran out of the tunnel with a cat once

 

[HuskerMarine]

I would like to request a photo beforehand before I take the bait. Slightly clothed would be suffice.

Trust me, she’s a banger.