Probably a little bit of both.
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If we can give Hoiberg time why not Rhule?
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That’s not totally true and you know it
How do you figure that? His first (and only) year as DC at San Diego State was great, and his first year as DC at Idaho wasn't bad (#43/130 scoring D).
he brings it to each and every thread.
Early candidate for POTY? People are saying
I'm just glad he is in a better mood this week!
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The problem is, if Rhule only realized halfway through the year that we can’t stop the run, he’s totally incompetent. When we lost the polar bear and Ty, everyone knew we would have a gaping hole in the middle of the line. We completely failed to fill that hole, and were abysmal against the run. That’s not on Butler, it’s on Rhule.
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Agreed, we are giving completely different looks and approaches to both sides of the ball.
This is really spot on. Take this, make it a little more pedantic, and it's my post.
Okay - Rhule is 0-9 against ranked teams in 3 years. Fred is 6-3 against ranked teams the last two years. Are those two things equal considering the level of financial support provided to each?
You completely made up words and tried to spin it as if I was saying NU’s 2021 season was better than last year’s NU season. All I said was that there were signs early in Fred’s tenure despite them losing games that the team was well coached and that even translated into beating a few teams they clearly were not better than. If you watched the team you could see that.
Name a single game Nebraska has played under Rhule where we’ve gotten a result equivalent to Fred winning at a top 10 team as a 12.5 point underdog? NU has won 3 games as an underdog under Rhule - @ Illinois in 2023 (+3), Purdue at home in 2023 (+1.5), and @ UCLA in 2025 (+2). Name any time you’ve watched NU play this past year and been like “wow even though they are losing that game I see us coming together and see the vision”. You simply can’t.
Let's be fair here. We heard 2 rumors this offseason about defensive staff not related to the DC. That they (NU/Rhule) allegedly told Kehres he was keeping Addison Williams and that Elijah Robinson was going to be a Co-DC/DL coach. And heaven forbid. Can't fire future DC Rob. So that's 3 people who would have been "forced" onto future DC/Kehres/Aurich
What/who exactly was the next DC hiring? They kinda shoehorned in Taylor and created a position for Manning to be on staff.
2. The whole DL coach hiring process lasted way to fucking long. Aurich/Rhule had 2+ weeks to line up anything resembling a plan and the next chirps people heard were about a JUCO position coach and then Corey Brown. Just a bizarre process from willing to spend X to make a guy paid over 1mill with extra titles to hiring out of a bad MAC team.
3. I speculate Jobu would still be at Nebraska if he wasn't throwing players under the bus. And no, the part in the media definitely isn't the first time Jobu blamed the players.
4. The special teams fiasco. For whatever reason Ek doesn't want to be here. By analytics, Nebraska just put up their best special teams season in the last 15 years and letting that guy walk out the door and trying to "replace him in the aggregate" is hilarious. The interview in the middle of this process is a bad look.
5. I do not really care to talk about Rhule. I've spouted my piece multiple times on this board and without new information nobody is changing their minds (including me).
As for Hoiberg vs Rhule -- Its Nebraskaball. Hoiberg had his stumbles and it overlapped with 2 covid years. He's steadily improved his product with minimum money and NIL. And has caught lightning in a bottle for 26'.
Rhule is paid like a top 15 coach has top 25 NIL and giving up top 50 results. He's shot himself in the foot in game and out of game more times than I wish to count. He's made excuses, overestimated his coaching/coaches and developing abilities and continues to surround himself with yes men and not leaders. Luckily, he's got a great agent and contract that buys him more time.
What was Fred's record against ranked teams his first 3-4 years? Legitimately asking as I don't know, but I suspect it was pretty horrendous. If we're comparing the two, then comparing their results during the first few seasons seems like the only relevant way to put those apples & oranges on the same scale.
I don't think Rhule is as good of a coach as Hoiberg.
But when you think about it their career paths are crazy similar. From fast rise, to professional bad/mediocrity (Hoiberg did have a playoff appearance) and then to Nebraska.
I don't know why it's different to me, but it's different to me. With what we've seen from Nebraska football do you think Rhule can get Nebraska to top 10 status in a regular season by 2029? That's essentially what Hoiberg has done right?
But when you think about it their career paths are crazy similar. From fast rise, to professional bad/mediocrity (Hoiberg did have a playoff appearance) and then to Nebraska.
I don't know why it's different to me, but it's different to me. With what we've seen from Nebraska football do you think Rhule can get Nebraska to top 10 status in a regular season by 2029? That's essentially what Hoiberg has done right?
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