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Maybe a Cockeye board member can weight in here.
Frost close losses
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Frost close losses
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Big 10 not as good then.
Bo’s recruits even though he wouldn’t win 6 this year.
Offense wasn’t as good as this years.
Whatever the next excuse is.
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A shitty Bo lead team still beats Illinois this year, so regardless we are 4-3 instead of 3-4 and Bo likely beats Minnesota and Purdue (he beats teams he is suppose to unlike our current HC) so we have 6 wins and going bowling.
I think Pelini was terrible and so is Frost, I don’t care how close we are, if you have 5 out of 6 (4 straight losing seasons) how can anyone argue you are a decent coach.
Nebraska’s offenses:
2011: 49th
2012: 28th
2013: 48th
2014: 12th
Avg34th in the country
2018: 58th
2019: 72nd
2020: 102nd
2021: 48th
Avg: 70th in the country
take out Covid: 59th in the country.
Scott Frost’s best offense, this year at 48th ppg is tied for Bo’s third worst husker offense in the B1G.
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Your first paragraph suggests you understand the assignment followed by a bunch of stats that are really tough to compare without a very deep dive into it. If the strength of schedules from 2011-2014 were identical to Frost’s time here you might have something. You can’t really compare the level of competition from that time to now. The big ten is much different.
You’re going to have to convince me that Pelini beats PJ Fleck. Peej has a better record at Minnesota than Jerry Kill did there and Bo was .500 against him. So penciling that game in as a game he should win is premature.
It’s also revisionist history to say that Bo beat the teams he should.
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Summary of the thread after my post:
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Nebraska wins against teams that finish with 8+ wins on the season:
Bo: 10
Riley: 5
Frost: 0
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I hate football.
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Lol why the fuck are we talking about Pelini.
As far as close losses go, the weight you place on them is going to be pretty fucking correlated with whether you believe Frost can ultimately figure them out and get over the hump. I can see the school of thought that it's indicative of being "close" and I can see the school of thought that says "we've got a sample size of like 21 games and if he's winning .250 of that, he ain't figuring it out".
Whether Bo would get pink socked with this year's schedule seems pretty unrelated
As far as close losses go, the weight you place on them is going to be pretty fucking correlated with whether you believe Frost can ultimately figure them out and get over the hump. I can see the school of thought that it's indicative of being "close" and I can see the school of thought that says "we've got a sample size of like 21 games and if he's winning .250 of that, he ain't figuring it out".
Whether Bo would get pink socked with this year's schedule seems pretty unrelated
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Interesting points and agreed.
Who do you think would win in a fist fight? Bo or Scott? Both in 2014 and today
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Frost is obviously in much better shape than Bo is, but there is no fucking way that Bo doesn't low blow him to get the upper hand. So BP is my pick
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98th best Red Zone offense...which is offensive (but an improvement over 2019, bravo!)This is the 13th best offense in the nation. Awfully tough crowd and without looking it up I’d say that zero Pelini offenses from 11-14 were close to that level.
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2020 = 43rd
2019 = 115th (!)
2018 = 26th
2011 = 34th
2012 = 34th
2013 = 24th
2014 = 27th
Lmao at Bo Pelini teams being the standard for anything though. Our fanbase, as a whole, deserves this shit product at this point.
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Frost kicks Bo's ass both years without question.
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Having a hard time believing this stat when Washington has 13 red zone possessions and 14 scores.
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You basically said the same thing about MSU as you said about Illinois (correct in both instances...both should have been 2-3+ TD wins based on talent and matchups), yet that's different now and counts as a feather in the cap (close loss to Top 10 team at the time on the road)?
Illinois was an aberration and certainly different (this year, not at all in the greater context of Scott's tenure here), but this IS an outcomes-based game. Those outcomes are binary. There are many reasons we're not getting it done in the category that counts. All of them are tied to Scott because that's how top-down organizations work. Whether there is accountability in those organizations or not is a different story. Since MSU, things do look and feel a bit different, for the better. Scott will get more time than pretty much any other coach in his position would to show if those changes (thanks, Turd) actually take hold and bear fruit or if old habits die hard.
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We're also 58th in TD percentage but 108th in FG %.
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This is how you're 14th in yardage with a strong defense and 3-4. It's also how a Bo Pelini-coached team beats you (not that this is relevant beyond the server space eaten up by this thread).
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This is why cfbstats.com is better for these analyses (especially historical). Never trust the NCAA, jim, c'mon now.
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This game was lost in the first half. After each team had one drive, Michigan ran 41 plays and held the ball for 15:56, Nebraska ran 19 and kept it for 7:35. The defense obviously was worn out by the time the second half rolled around. Of those 19 plays Nebraska ran, almost half were right into the heart of the defense. In those drives, MU outyarded NU 226 - 51. That's not a player issue and even though there were penalties that cut NU's drives short, these all fall back to coaching issues. The lack of aggressive plays on offense put the defense in a terrible position. If no fear of failure doesn't show up until you are down 13, then it's less of a motto and basically bullshit mantra.
The talent is there to win games like this, but that is the biggest indictment of the coaching staff. Anyone talking about how the team's talent is worth keeping Frost don't realize that they are making the argument to fire him. A team this talented should not be 3 - 4.
The talent is there to win games like this, but that is the biggest indictment of the coaching staff. Anyone talking about how the team's talent is worth keeping Frost don't realize that they are making the argument to fire him. A team this talented should not be 3 - 4.
