Frost close losses

[Cash68847]

People must've forgot how inept the offenses were under Blo when we had Shawn Watson and Tim Beck as our OC's. Had those offense were somewhat competent, Nebraska would've won a Conference Championship in 2009 & 2010. Not sure if Scott is correct answer, but the wheels were coming off the bus under Blo and Riley might've had a good third year if he wasn't forced to fire Banker for that other dipshit DC who liked to wear sweaters. I really don't think there is a magical coach out there outside of Nick Saban that can fix Nebraska.

The 2010 offense was as good as we have had since Solich when Martinez was healthy. It was pretty dynamic with his speed. When he went down so did the offense. They would have easily beat OU with a healthy Martinez.

 

[Black Dean]

Save 2009 and 2010 and which Bo team makes a bowl with our schedule?

Bo doesn’t lose to Illinois in game 1, and I dislike the guy and glad he’s wrong but it’s laughable to act as if Frost is a better coach. Frost is on pace for his 5th losing season in 6 years as a HC.

 

[Cash68847]

Neither of those teams beats this one.

I can say both do. No one is going to prove it. You have to look at all three phases. Our special teams alone could lose games to any Pelini team. Like I said let’s see how the season plays out. Hopefully we win the next two and take one of the last three. That’s an achievable goal for this team.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Bo doesn’t lose to Illinois in game 1, and I dislike the guy and glad he’s wrong but it’s laughable to act as if Frost is a better coach. Frost is on pace for his 5th losing season in 6 years as a HC.

Bo was a miracle Abdullah play away from losing to McNeese St. bro.

 

[22*43*51]

No he didn't. Even he knows if Clifford doesn't get hurt it's a blowout. But that's football. People get hurt and if your backup qb sucks you lose.

Don’t bait me.

 

[...TrueColors...]

Bo doesn’t lose to Illinois in game 1, and I dislike the guy and glad he’s wrong but it’s laughable to act as if Frost is a better coach. Frost is on pace for his 5th losing season in 6 years as a HC.

Bo’s shining record against Brett Bielema certainly suggests the level of success where we should afford him the benefit of the doubt in that hypothetical game.

Totally different big ten now than what Bo was playing in. That’s not up for debate.

 

[Black Dean]

Bo was a miracle Abdullah play away from losing to McNeese St. bro.

And did we lose that game?

Bo is a shitty coach, but still never managed to lose to Troy at home
Go winless against Colorado
lose to Purdue twice
Winless against Cockeye
lose to Illifuckinois twice

Bo’s a shit coach, Frost is an even shittier coach till proven otherwise.

 

[Black Dean]

Totally different big ten now than what Bo was playing in. That’s not up for debate.

Illinois is still shit tho, they are shit this year and they were shit last year and Frost lost both times. Pelini is a garbage coach who got blown out in big games, but he hardly loss to the teams he was suppose to be beat where Frost doesn’t have a clue.

 

[Cash68847]

Illinois is still shit tho, they are shit this year and they were shit last year and Frost lost both times. Pelini is a garbage coach who got blown out in big games, but he hardly loss to the teams he was suppose to be beat where Frost doesn’t have a clue.

The East is stronger for sure because PSU and Michigan are much better programs today. The west isn’t much different. Purdue is better I think. Wisconsin, Cockeye, and Northwestern are similar teams to what they were when Bo was here. Minnesota isn’t much different either. Kill was getting to a bowl every year. Illinois has always sucked.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I thought I had seen it all. Then I hopped on here and saw someone use Bo's record against Bielema as some sort of defense of Frost.

The mental gymnastics required for such a defense shouldn't even be possible with our current understanding of physics.

 

[Jim14510]

Don’t bait me.

It was a good try

 

[...TrueColors...]

Illinois is still shit tho, they are shit this year and they were shit last year and Frost lost both times. Pelini is a garbage coach who got blown out in big games, but he hardly loss to the teams he was suppose to be beat where Frost doesn’t have a clue.

Ive not excused one loss, thank you. My point is on that front that the Big Ten is different now compared to 2011-2014. Bo played two total top ten teams at the time the game was played in the regular season in that timeframe. Cockeye was going through a resurgence, Urban hadn’t quite gotten tOSU where they were when he left, Franklin wasn’t at PSU, Harbaugh wasn’t at Michigan, and so on. You hopefully are seeing my point.

Does a single Pelini team during that timeframe finish this schedule with a winning record? They absolutely drop Oklahoma, MSU, and Michigan by 20+ because Pelini teams in prime time against ranked opponents were absolutely awful. Could they get 6? Do you think a Pelini led team wins 2 of the last 5 this year? I’d give them Purdue and I’d bank on the idea he’d likely get deep dicked by multiple TDs against tOSU, Cockeye, and Wisconsin because it was 100% a Pelini thing to get hammered by anyone who was any good and Wisconsin regardless of their record. So the question becomes could Pelini beat Fleck? I think the answer is no.

 

[...TrueColors...]

I thought I had seen it all. Then I hopped on here and saw someone use Bo's record against Bielema as some sort of defense of Frost.

The mental gymnastics required for such a defense shouldn't even be possible with our current understanding of physics.

I honestly don’t know how anyone in the world reads my posts today and honestly thinks I’ve defended losing to Illinois.

 

[Black Dean]

Ive not excused one loss, thank you. My point is on that front that the Big Ten is different now compared to 2011-2014. Bo played two total top ten teams at the time the game was played in the regular season in that timeframe. Cockeyes was going through a resurgence, Urban hadn’t quite gotten tOSU where they were when he left, Franklin wasn’t at PSU, Harbaugh wasn’t at Michigan, and so on. You hopefully are seeing my point.

Does a single Pelini team during that timeframe finish this schedule with a winning record? They absolutely drop Oklahoma, MSU, and Michigan by 20+ because Pelini teams in prime time against ranked opponents were absolutely awful. Could they get 6? Do you think a Pelini led team wins 2 of the last 5 this year? I’d give them Purdue and I’d bank on the idea he’d likely get deep dicked by multiple TDs against tOSU, Cockeyes, and Wisconsin because it was 100% a Pelini thing to get hammered by anyone who was any good and Wisconsin regardless of their record. So the question becomes could Pelini beat Fleck? I think the answer is no.

Pelini’s B1G husker teams did happen to beat:

#9 Michigan State 24-3
#12 Penn State 17-14
#20 Michigan 23-9

Frost has yet to beat anybody worth a damn.

 

[...TrueColors...]

The East is stronger for sure because PSU and Michigan are much better programs today. The west isn’t much different. Purdue is better I think. Wisconsin, Cockeyes, and Northwestern are similar teams to what they were when Bo was here. Minnesota isn’t much different either. Kill was getting to a bowl every year. Illinois has always sucked.

Cockeye from 2011-14 was 26-25. Since Bo left they are 59-19.

Northwestern was 26-24 from 2011-14. Since then they are 42-29 with two West titles.

Wisconsin is 58-22 since 2015. From 2011-14, they were 38-16.

Purdue we agree is better. I’m not going to waste the time dragging up records from Darrell Hazell’s time there.

Minnesota was 29-26 from 2011-14. Since then they’re 42-32.

The data doesn’t support the notion that the West isn’t improved by a lot. They certainly don’t have the elite teams. But the west is better by a lot when applying any objective measure.

 

[...TrueColors...]

Pelini’s B1G husker teams did happen to beat:

#9 Michigan State 24-3
#12 Penn State 17-14
#20 Michigan 23-9

Frost has yet to beat anybody worth a damn.

Does Pelini win 6 with this schedule is the question I asked. The answer is not likely.

 

[Cash68847]

Cockeyes from 2011-14 was 26-25. Since Bo left they are 59-19.

Northwestern was 26-24 from 2011-14. Since then they are 42-29 with two West titles.

Wisconsin is 58-22 since 2015. From 2011-14, they were 38-16.

Purdue we agree is better. I’m not going to waste the time dragging up records from Darrell Hazell’s time there.

Minnesota was 29-26 from 2011-14. Since then they’re 42-32.

The data doesn’t support the notion that the West isn’t improved by a lot. They certainly don’t have the elite teams. But the west is better by a lot when applying any objective measure.

I’m not going to disagree if you the records back it up. The one that surprises me a little is Cockeye. I bet kirk passes it off to his son in the next year or two. I know you don’t think much of him, but I think he will keep it going.

 

[...TrueColors...]

I’m not going to disagree if you the records back it up. The one that surprises me a little is Cockeyes. I bet kirk passes it off to his son in the next year or two. I know you don’t think much of him, but I think he will keep it going.

Many people forget that ferentz hit some pretty quality highs early in his career and then took a really hard crash and almost got canned. They were really struggling when we came into the league.

I think Ferentz jr is basically the Tommy Callahan of that operation. Cockeye people can probably speak to this better than I and it’s been a long time since I’ve spoken to my Cockeye people, but the feeling was in the winter of 2019-2020, after the whole racist thing, that James had basically no shot of getting that job when Kirk was done and they believed Jay Norvell would get it. That might be incorrect now.

 

[HuskerGarrett]

Bo sucks, Frost sucks, we have sucked for far too long now. That’s all I’ve got

 

[Black Dean]

Bo sucks, Frost sucks, we have sucked for far too long now. That’s all I’ve got

Frost just needs to win the next 9 games in a row and he will match Mike Riley’s record at Nebraska. So close.