Does Penn St hire Rhule

[RedTillDead]

Ask Matt Rhule that question. It was his decision, not 1890's.



Look at our RB room, there's your answer.

2 things will happen going forward; Rhule will need to increase his RB room budget, or find a new RB coach.

Hopefully both.

 

[nja13]

That chart specifically doesn't include what schools are paying players.

Well, it was from last year, 2024, before revenue sharing kicked in during the summer of 2025. So those numbers are before schools could pay players. But most of the top schools are paying similar amounts in rev share, so I don't think that would make too much of a differnce.

 

[herbsinator]

I posted about this on RSS earlier today in response to a poster saying NU needs to step up and spend money like the blue blood that it is:

And if you look at recent trends, we're spending just as much as anybody. According to this, our football budget was fourth in the country last year. Higher than Ohio State's! $20 million more than Penn State's! The facts don't support a narrative that Nebraska is being cheap when it comes to football spending. We are absolutely spending money like a blue blood.

Here are all the FY24 FOOTBALL operating budgets​

School	Budget
University of Alabama	$113,835,360
Texas A&M University, College Station	$90,797,514
University of Washington	$87,566,951
University of Nebraska-Lincoln	$84,059,267
The Ohio State University	$78,586,384
University of Tennessee, Knoxville	$75,905,015
University of Michigan	$72,404,170
University of Georgia	$68,931,272
Clemson University	$67,787,017
University of Texas at Austin	$65,770,599
Pennsylvania State University	$64,463,970

Rhule briefly hit on this at the press conference today I believe—talking about quit worrying about “optics”. Nebraska has plenty of booster support. For whatever reason, there are boosters willing to cut checks to the university but don’t want to get into the NIL game. At least, that’s what I’ve heard from people in the NIL world who would know.

 

[PonyBoy]

For whatever reason, there are boosters willing to cut checks to the university but don’t want to get into the NIL game. At least, that’s what I’ve heard from people in the NIL world who would know.

Correct, some boosters though and they're not the game changers outside of one specific. And it's what has held baseball back from NIL funding (a true budget); baseball guys with money will donate for facilities, etc but don't want their money going to NIL funding.

IMO, Rhule will get a big NIL bump with a 9-3 or better record in 2025. Just like he got a bump after the 2024 season. Win and the funding will increase.

 

[Flabio]

So baseball "has the funds" to offer Payton Tolle $700K+ but football doesn't have the funds to pay CMB and up EJ? Come on, man. (And before anyone calls bluff on the $700K+, I've mentioned this a few times on this forum in the last 2 years before being asked to remove it. I won't remove it now).

Rhule chose not to stay in the CMB mix. Miami overpaid. Barthel didn't help either, but that's a different story.

You can just say you’re not sure bc you don’t know for sure and are speculating on our NIL.

 

[Cowboy Kermit]

They would be fools not to go after Ciggnetti. Guy is a proven winner and does it quickly.

I will say this until I am blue in the face, Cignetti isn’t leaving Indiana.

 

[Flabio]

Correct, some boosters though and they're not the game changers outside of one specific. And it's what has held baseball back from NIL funding (a true budget); baseball guys with money will donate for facilities, etc but don't want their money going to NIL funding.

IMO, Rhule will get a big NIL bump with a 9-3 or better record in 2025. Just like he got a bump after the 2024 season. Win and the funding will increase.

Who cares about baseballs NIL

 

[Alcaus]

Well, it was from last year, 2024, before revenue sharing kicked in during the summer of 2025. So those numbers are before schools could pay players. But most of the top schools are paying similar amounts in rev share, so I don't think that would make too much of a differnce.

I'm just pointing out that this doesn't really answer the question being asked about NIL budget, which is what Rhule was alluding to in his presser.

I'm not even sure it'd be possible to get that information.

 

[PonyBoy]

Speaking of NIL

 

[nja13]

I'm just pointing out that this doesn't really answer the question being asked about NIL budget, which is what Rhule was alluding to in his presser.

I'm not even sure it'd be possible to get that information.

Correct. This is just university spending, which doesn't and can't include NIL. The poster I was responding to was saying NU wasn't spending with the big boys when NU is very much spending with the big boys. NIL, that doesn't come from NU. We have to depend on third parties to pay our players NIL.

And yes, NIL payments are not publically available.

 

[Alcaus]

Correct. This is just university spending, which doesn't and can't include NIL. The poster I was responding to was saying NU wasn't spending with the big boys when NU is very much spending with the big boys. NIL, that doesn't come from NU. We have to depend on third parties to pay our players NIL.

And yes, NIL payments are not publically available.

Right, I think @PonyBoy was misinterpreting what was being referenced regarding "The Nebraska Way". Rhule was speaking about it in the context of $30-$40 million dollar rosters. So it's great that Nebraska's paying to have a top recruiting program and staff but in the context of NIL, which is what I believe is being talked about ITT predominantly, are we in that range or not?

 

[Flabio]

Right, I think @PonyBoy was misinterpreting what was being referenced regarding "The Nebraska Way". Rhule was speaking about it in the context of $30-$40 million dollar rosters. So it's great that Nebraska's paying to have a top recruiting program and staff but in the context of NIL, which is what I believe is being talked about ITT predominantly, are we in that range or not?

Yes. So that would mean the rev share plus NIL per year. No one knows for sure on the rev split to football or the 1890 commitment to football per year. I don’t know why Rhule would bring it up over and over again if it was close to $30-$40mm. Logic says we aren’t close and he’s trying to drag our dumbass boosters into the reality of having a chance to compete at the levels they are asking the team to perform.

 

[Irv]

Lots of texts of "keep winning" going to Rhule. I feel pretty confident he's here though in 2026.

What’s happening at the end of 2026?

 

[herbsinator]

I’ve officially changed my vote. Someone take my HES badge away.

Changing my vote back to no. I am still an HES member in good standing as of now.

 

[Kaladin]

What’s happening at the end of 2026?

Next season?

 

[PonyBoy]

Right, I think @PonyBoy was misinterpreting what was being referenced regarding "The Nebraska Way". Rhule was speaking about it in the context of $30-$40 million dollar rosters. So it's great that Nebraska's paying to have a top recruiting program and staff but in the context of NIL, which is what I believe is being talked about ITT predominantly, are we in that range or not?

Feel like I was pretty clear by separating budget & NIL, oh well...

Nebraska football is #4 in FBS football spending*, Rhule has a top 15 salary (#4 in B1G), unlimited facility upgrades, very competitive NIL

 

[Alcaus]

Feel like I was pretty clear by separating budget & NIL, oh well...

Nebraska football is #4 in FBS football spending*, Rhule has a top 15 salary (#4 in B1G), unlimited facility upgrades, very competitive NIL

You were clear on spending but not very specific regarding NIL.

Is that top-10, top-20 in your opinion? I’m not trying to argue just hoping to gain some clarification because I think wires are mixed.

 

[king_kong_]

That chart specifically doesn't include what schools are paying players.

"I’ve done newsletters that track reporting revenue and spending before, but in case this is your first one, let me remind everybody that I get this data from each school’s MFRS report that they file annually with the NCAA. This report is a standardized (well, sort of) itemized budget that every school in Division I and Division II has to file.

...the term total operating expenses includes reported spending on stuff like coaching salaries, severance payouts, team travel, recruiting, bowl trips, administrative staff, facility debt service and others. It does not include player payroll."

It does include $$ we are still paying former coaches, though!

 

[BorWhiskey]

Lots of texts of "keep winning" going to Rhule. I feel pretty confident he's here though in 2026.

What does this insinuate?

 

[Flabio]

What does this insinuate?

That maybe he leaves after a big year in 2026. That is supposed to be the big year for the team. How would anyone know that is his plan? They wouldn't, its speculation.