Bill Busch

[Huskerbuck85]

It’s pretty hard to be worse than 3-9…. So your probably right

Now you’re seeing the light

 

[lee_carvallo_12]

Isn’t that the point, to prove otherwise? Hate to tell ya but they can’t prove it till next fall. Might be a long off season for you guys.

It's really not that bad. I'm 95% sure I know what's going to happen, too much data out there to think anything else. Anything in that 5% category will be a pleasant and unexpected surprise.

 

[DuckSker]

I’m not even sure what kool-aid they are serving. Seems like the well has run dry.

Chaz in SoCal’s special blend.

 

[Driveway Jordan]

Let’s just say we get a better qb (shouldn’t be hard to do), have better receivers which collectively exceed the success of the good one leaving, just as good if not better DB play, older and improved OL (jurgens hard to replace but not impossible), way better kicker and better punter (should be good here) and wayyyy better assistant coaches where needed (pretty sure we’ve accomplished this). DL and LB yet to be seen but can be as good or better.
How to you suppose we’ll be way worse?

 

[Cash68847]

Before anybody asks, the answer is no, we're not doing a monthly interview with Ed Orgeron.
It's not a bad idea, though.
I mean, I've heard much worse ideas.
Orgeron, the former LSU head coach who guided the Tigers to the 2019 national championship, spoke with the Lincoln Journal Star in early December following Nebraska's hiring of Mickey Joseph as associate head coach, receivers coach and passing game coordinator. A native of New Orleans, Joseph spent five seasons on Orgeron's staff at LSU.
Tuesday morning, Orgeron appeared on "Early Break" on 93.7 FM (6 to 8 a.m. weekdays) with yours truly and co-host Jake Sorensen. Coach "O" was excellent in discussing a variety of subjects, with a significant part of the conversation geared toward Bill Busch, also a former LSU assistant. According to sources, the 56-year-old Busch, a native of Pender, is set to be named Nebraska's special teams coordinator in the coming days.

Before working from 2018 to 2020 as LSU's safeties coach, Busch had never coached in the SEC. But he thrived on the Tigers' staff, recruiting at a high level while developing safety Grant Delpit into the 2019 Thorpe Award winner as the nation's top defensive back. Nothing's official at NU, but Busch also may be asked to help coach part of the secondary.

"First of all, Bill's a great man," Orgeron said. "He's a great communicator, and he's an outstanding recruiter. I didn't have anybody work harder than Bill Busch in recruiting. I'd get to the office early in the morning, and he'd be there texting his players. He's always on top of it. The parents loved him."
Orgeron emphasized something on which Busch can forever hang his hat.

"Bill Busch is the single most important reason that we got Joe Burrow," Orgeron said of the starting quarterback on LSU's 2019 title team. "We wouldn't have won the national championship — we wouldn't have had that sort of team — if Bill Busch was not here."

Well, then.
"Bill Busch was absolutely integral in recruiting Joe Burrow," added Orgeron, noting Busch had coached at Ohio State while Burrow was part of the Buckeye program.
"When I asked Bill about Burrow, Bill said this, 'Coach, if we get Joe Burrow, we're going to the college football playoffs, and we're going to win it,'" Orgeron recalled. "I said, 'Well, let's go get him.'"

Busch is detail-oriented. His friends tell you he's that way in all aspects of his life. To wit: He had his coaching plan for the day on Orgeron's desk every morning by 6 o'clock.

"Every day," Orgeron said. "Tips and reminders of what we were going to do in terms of installation and what we have to improve on. Very, very detailed. Very committed football coach."
Busch worked this past season on Scott Frost's staff at Nebraska as a defensive analyst who also helped Mike Dawson with special teams. Technically speaking, Busch was not an on-field coach, although he helped implement schemes and was in meetings.
Soon, however, he'll once again be part of the full-time staff. The varsity, so to speak. Many Nebraska fans remember that Busch spent 2004-07 at NU under head coach Bill Callahan coaching outside linebackers (2004) and safeties (2005-07) while also serving as special-teams coordinator.
Nebraska is important to him. He wants to be here more than anywhere else. There's a lot to be said for that. Plus, we're talking about the national defensive backs coach of the year in 2012 at Utah State, not to mention the coach responsible for recruiting not only Burrow to LSU, but Alex Smith to Utah in 2001.
Um, that's two No. 1 overall picks in the NFL Draft.
Busch's recruitment of Smith in 2001 was actually more about the coach's keen eye for talent. Although every Pac-10 school passed on Smith, Busch, then a safeties coach at Utah, saw enough in him that he insisted the Utes recruit the slender wing-T operator out of Helix High School in suburban San Diego. Although Busch wasn't a quarterbacks coach, San Diego was his recruiting area. Again, it worked out well for all involved.
Many NU fans are thrilled it's again working out for Busch at Nebraska.
A couple of other tidbits from Coach "O":
* He pointed out something about Joseph that tends to get overlooked.
"Well, think about this: Mickey was involved with (LSU offensive coaches) Joe Brady and Steve Ensminger when we put in the spread offense — the most prolific offense in college football history," Orgeron noted. "Mickey's bringing a wealth of knowledge."
* Is Orgeron's 2019 LSU outfit the best team in the history of college football?
That's for others to decide, he said.
"They've had some great teams at Nebraska, USC, Miami, Alabama," he said. "But LSU deserves to be mentioned as one of the top teams for sure."
* Orgeron, 60, is taking a year off from football. But he intends to jump back in next season.
"I've got a lot left in the tank," he said. "I'm just going to see where it's all going to lead."
For now, "I'm just working out and driving people crazy."
He blessed us with his presence Tuesday morning. You know what? We just might do it again soon.

I thought Frost played the lead role in getting Burrow to LSU.

 

[Irv]

I’m in a weird spot where I have growing confidence in everything not related to Scott Frost.

If this program let him spend his time at the feed store and had head coach by committee, I would be optimistic for 2022 to exceed expectations.

 

[alt f4]

I like BB, Speaking to him, I could tell he'd be a good recruiter and a very smart x's and o's type of coach. He leads the conversation, asks questions, and continues the conversation. Really easy to talk to, completely opposite of myself, but I find him easy to converse with.

 

[DuckSker]

I’m in a weird spot where I have growing confidence in everything not related to Scott Frost.

If this program let him spend his time at the feed store and had head coach by committee, I would be optimistic for 2022 to exceed expectations.

Hopefully Mickey bought him an all inclusive Elk Hunt in Montana for this weekend. Let me handle this coach.

 

[Red Finger]

Boy the title of that article....

So is the article supposed to prove that Bill Busch is smarter than our HC?

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Boy the title of that article....

So is the article supposed to prove that Bill Busch is smarter than our HC?

I mean what percentage of coaches would hitch their wagon to a true freshman QB who didn't play his senior year of high school? Can't be more than about 1%

 

[Bootleg11]

I mean what percentage of coaches would hitch their wagon to a true freshman QB who didn't play his senior year of high school? Can't be more than about 1%

Martinez wasn't a true freshman when Burrow was available to transfer though right? Maybe I'm not remembering right.

He had just played his freshman year and looked pretty good. Burrow hadn't started a game in college yet.

The mistake on Burrow will always lie on Bo Pelini and Tim Beck.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Martinez wasn't a true freshman when Burrow was available to transfer though right? Maybe I'm not remembering right.

He had just played his freshman year and looked pretty good. Burrow hadn't started a game in college yet.

The mistake on Burrow will always lie on Bo Pelini and Tim Beck.

Burrows first season at LSU was 2018. So was Martinez's at Nebraska so Frost turned Burrow down prior to knowing what Martinez had.

Burrow going to Nebraska right away is an interesting hypothetical. Was he awesome because he got coached up at Ohio State and then set free or would he have been awesome anywhere?

 

[Bootleg11]

Burrows first season at LSU was 2018. So was Martinez's at Nebraska so Frost turned Burrow down prior to knowing what Martinez had.

Burrow going to Nebraska right away is an interesting hypothetical. Was he awesome because he got coached up at Ohio State and then set free or would he have been awesome anywhere?

Ok I remembered wrong. I was thinking that Martinez had already played a year when Burrow decided to transfer.

Still hard to know what Burrow was going to be, he had not started a game.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Ok I remembered wrong. I was thinking that Martinez had already played a year when Burrow decided to transfer.

Still hard to know what Burrow was going to be, he had not started a game.

No one should believe that Frost passed up a guy people thought would be the first pick, but even at the time there were people around the Ohio State program who thought he should have won the job over Haskins. Burrow was an absolute no brainer addition to that room if you did even a modicum of due diligence

 

[Bootleg11]

No one should believe that Frost passed up a guy people thought would be the first pick, but even at the time there were people around the Ohio State program who thought he should have won the job over Haskins. Burrow was an absolute no brainer addition to that room if you did even a modicum of due diligence

Was Burrow never offered by Frost and Co? Or was there an issue of not being guaranteed the starting spot? Was Burrow really interested in Nebraska the 2nd time around? I have no idea on any of these. I still think it was more criminal of Pelini and Beck to not even meet with the kid when he was on campus.

 

[Red Finger]

No one should believe that Frost passed up a guy people thought would be the first pick, but even at the time there were people around the Ohio State program who thought he should have won the job over Haskins. Burrow was an absolute no brainer addition to that room if you did even a modicum of due diligence

You’d think you’d want your QB room stacked all the time. 4 years later there’s still no real depth to the room. It would of taken one phone call to get Burrow to commit.

 

[Bootleg11]

No one should believe that Frost passed up a guy people thought would be the first pick, but even at the time there were people around the Ohio State program who thought he should have won the job over Haskins. Burrow was an absolute no brainer addition to that room if you did even a modicum of due diligence

Also...was Gebbia still at Nebraska. That's 2 four stars they had in the room. It was obviously a mistake if they had the chance to take Burrow and didn't. But that's a lot of hindsight.

 

[Bootleg11]

It would of taken one phone call to get Burrow to commit.

How do we know that is true?

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

I like BB, Speaking to him, I could tell he'd be a good recruiter and a very smart x's and o's type of coach. He leads the conversation, asks questions, and continues the conversation. Really easy to talk to, completely opposite of myself, but I find him easy to converse with.

His old man coached for a good family friend many moons ago. Football is in his blood. Just odd he’s not taking big job

 

[Red Finger]

How do we know that is true?

Dean has said as much. He knows the Burrows. Plus I remember at the time my Nsider buds were saying we could get him. My understanding was we could of gotten him twice pretty easily.

I was also told Scott wouldn't take the phone call. It felt a little odd, but at the time the new car smell was still there and it was #NFrostWeTrust time. So I just went with Adrian was gonna be the next Heisman at NU.