Besides wearing Crocs or drinking White Claws....

[Jim14510]

Are you sure? I disagree. It's more common than you think.

As I said. Generally speaking that's the case. There could be 1 in 10,000 cases where yours is true and google will find what appears to be a lot.

 

[pigsonthewing]

As I said. Generally speaking that's the case. There could be 1 in 10,000 cases where yours is true and google will find what appears to be a lot.

then i suggest scrolling through social media and listen to the men that this happens to. But hey, if that's the conclusion you wish to draw I can't stop you. We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Jim14510]

then i suggest scrolling through social media and listen to the men that this happens to. But hey, if that's the conclusion you wish to draw I can't stop you. We will have to agree to disagree.

That's fine. I can't and wouldn't want to compete with "I saw it on social media so it must be generally true."

 

[Pipe Line]

Why?

How long do you want the list? I lost respect when I was about 12ish, the day he chose to play NASCAR on his PS2 over watching a live Nebraska Football game with my mom and I.

 

[Dble E]

That’s really weird. Did you get pissed on in the shower before? Who pisses in the shower? I’m so cornfused by this one

I am sure it is weird to some.

A real man uses body wash to wash their hair, back, crack and sack....if I am in the middle of that process and I have to piss...my soapy ass is not getting our of the shower...I let it rip.

 

[BingoDingo]

Thread is really dynamic...shower pissing and single moms at the same time.

 

[BBTown Bomber]

So you chose more personal attacks. Got it.

Let me try to make this easier for you. I'll list off nine or ten reasons why it's not a good idea and you can form a proper counter argument instead of more ad hominem fallacies and all that jazz.

1. You will always be second.
2. possible baby daddy problems.
3. its possible the kids may hate you
4. she may have questionable morals
5. you could love the step kids, but if she divorces/leaves you those kids are gone, which leads to
6. You can end up paying child support for kids that aren't even yours. Daddy by default.
7. its always a reminder of your wife's/gf's sexual history
8. all the responsibility, none of the authority.
9. logistical nightmare.

hope this helps.

1. I was never “second” from day-one, as her ex walked away from her AND all three kids immediately following the divorce. He actually moved around in the Ord/ Broken Bow/ Ravenna/GI area in an attempt to avoid paying child-support.

1a. Her kids and my kids were all pretty good friends prior to our blind date. We dated for about 15 months before I proposed and when we shared the news all five kids (her 3, my 2) were pumped. They ranged in age from 11 down to 6 at the time.

1b. Her kids immediately wanted to know if I was going to adopt them, as they wanted their last name to be the same as their mom’s new last name. She had already decided that wasn’t going to happen, as she wanted them to keep their given birth name. Plus, every time her ex moved (to avoid paying child support) we tracked him down thanks to a little help from a deputy-sheriff friend of mine.

1c. To this day I have a great relationship with all three of her kids. I walked her daughter down the aisle when she got married, all five of the grandkids (from her kids) have called me “grandpa” from day-one (the oldest just turned 21 in April). Her three kids are all clients at my office, as the trust factor is strong.

1d. And on and on and on………

2. See 1-1d
3. See 1-1d
4. Not a chance with this gal, but you’ll have to take my word for it.
5. We’ll celebrate 30 yrs on 9-5-22
6. Obviously not an issue. Kids are all in their late 30s/early 40s
7. Yore grasping for straws here. Everyone has a sexual history.
8. That never was true from day-one. She welcomed the help in raising her kids and they were ok with the rules and structure. Rules give kids a feeling of security and love whether they would ever admit it or not. Her kids welcomed an adult male in their lives.
9. As @Jim14510 said……raising kids in general is a logistical nightmare. So is life in general some days. So what?


So…..there’s my story. What d’ya think?

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[huskermack]

When my youngest was a little younger, she pissed on my foot in the shower.
I laffed and laffed.
My wifey was freaking, and she wasn't even in there.

 

[BBTown Bomber]

Sure hope I hear back from @pigsonthewing

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[pigsonthewing]

So…..there’s my story. What d’ya think?

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I don't really care for all the personal details so all I got out of it was that it appears you think the exception to the rule makes the rule. I'm coming from the principle of probabilities, not possibilities. It worked out for you. It won't for many. Still haven't seen anyone give a list of why it's a good idea.

 

[Jim14510]

Still haven't seen anyone give a list of why it's a good idea.

This is fair. If as you said I was single and I had the choice between two women that were identical in every way except one had children. I would pick the one that doesn't have children. I think every person would. Man or woman. Rare exception being someone that can't have kids but wants to habe kids. That's just not a realistic scenario though.

That's also a totally different conversation than your comments that started this discussion i.e. you're a real man if you can father children and make someone else raise them and you're not a real man if you take responsibility for another man's children.

 

[pigsonthewing]

This is fair. If as you said I was single and I had the choice between two women that were identical in every way except one had children. I would pick the one that doesn't have children. I think every person would. Man or woman. Rare exception being someone that can't have kids but wants to habe kids. That's just not a realistic scenario though.

That's also a totally different conversation than your comments that started this discussion i.e. you're a real man if you can father children and make someone else raise them and you're not a real man if you take responsibility for another man's children.

I've been skirting around the issue, because it deals with sexual market value and relationship market value. And i've already kind of dropped what I thought about that in the thread without saying it directly to y'all, because if i did, it would truly trigger everybody here except those who know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm more than willing to let this die. I'm tired of trying to explain modern intergender dynamics. There's books, youtube vids, seminars that explain all this. But as long as the attacks continue we're just going to sit here and keep spinning our wheels.

 

[BBTown Bomber]

I don't really care for all the personal details so all I got out of it was that it appears you think the exception to the rule makes the rule. I'm coming from the principle of probabilities, not possibilities. It worked out for you. It won't for many. Still haven't seen anyone give a list of why it's a good idea.

I responded to each of yore bullet points and now you "don't really care".

Ok.......

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[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

Fight fight fight

 

[HCFord1]

I've been skirting around the issue, because it deals with sexual market value and relationship market value. And i've already kind of dropped what I thought about that in the thread without saying it directly to y'all, because if i did, it would truly trigger everybody here except those who know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm more than willing to let this die. I'm tired of trying to explain modern intergender dynamics. There's books, youtube vids, seminars that explain all this. But as long as the attacks continue we're just going to sit here and keep spinning our wheels.

Jesus dude, you've read books, watched youtube videos, and gone to seminars about modern intergender dynamics and sexual market value? If you're anything other than a social psychologist or gender studies professor, then this may be the most pathetic thing I've ever heard in my life.

 

[pigsonthewing]

Jesus dude, you've read books, watched youtube videos, and gone to seminars about modern intergender dynamics and sexual market value? If you're anything other than a social psychologist or gender studies professor, then this may be the most pathetic thing I've ever heard in my life.

 

[Dble E]

I've been skirting around the issue, because it deals with sexual market value and relationship market value. And i've already kind of dropped what I thought about that in the thread without saying it directly to y'all, because if i did, it would truly trigger everybody here except those who know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm more than willing to let this die. I'm tired of trying to explain modern intergender dynamics. There's books, youtube vids, seminars that explain all this. But as long as the attacks continue we're just going to sit here and keep spinning our wheels.

Sexual Market Value? Is that a fancy way of saying I should eat pussy like it's going out of style?

 

[ThomOsborneMD]

Jesus dude, you've read books, watched youtube videos, and gone to seminars about modern intergender dynamics and sexual market value? If you're anything other than a social psychologist or gender studies professor, then this may be the most pathetic thing I've ever heard in my life.

But what if he is a gender studies professor?

 

[Pipe Line]

When my youngest was a little younger, she pissed on my foot in the shower.
I laffed and laffed.
My wifey was freaking, and she wasn't even in there.

Genuine question. My daughter is almost a year and a half. I don't know when the showering stuff starts but she's obviously bath only right now. I only ever showered with my mom once when I was little. I'm a guy. No recollection on ever showering with my dad to learn how to shower. I'm sure I did though because of the father son thing. I know it'll come up eventually, is that weird for dads to shower with their daughter for context on learning how to shower? If I have the choice, I'll let my wife do it obviously but is that weird? I don't know. Just asking.

 

[HCFord1]

Genuine question. My daughter is almost a year and a half. I don't know when the showering stuff starts but she's obviously bath only right now. I only ever showered with my mom once when I was little. I'm a guy. No recollection on ever showering with my dad to learn how to shower. I'm sure I did though because of the father son thing. I know it'll come up eventually, is that weird for dads to shower with their daughter for context on learning how to shower? If I have the choice, I'll let my wife do it obviously but is that weird? I don't know. Just asking.

You can stay outside of the shower just so they're comfortable and tell them what to do, but by the age where they're taking showers instead of baths it should be pretty self-explanatory. I know for a fact that I never took a shower with my mom or dad.