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Not sure if this needs a new thread but a lot of the assistant coach conversations are trending in a very wrong direction IMO. 2 points I’d like to make. One is based on what Waterboy has seen. The other is just a hunch.
#1: Special Teams Coordinator
I’ve seen a lot of discussion about how we need a ST coordinator which is abundantly clear, but there has been a lot of talk about how we can’t make room for a ST coordinator without firing another defensive coach, having a coach take 2 position groups, Chins coaching OLB’s etc.
Everyone is overthinking it.
We don’t need to do get rid of any additional coaches or make any changes to the defensive staff to have room for a ST coach and the reason is that there is about a 90% chance Frost takes QB’s IMO.
1. Frost has worked QB’s in practice for over half of this season, either in tandem with Verdu, or more recently, basically by himself.
2. Frost is very comfortable coaching QB’s. He is natural at it. Waterboy says there is a MASSIVE difference.
3. Working with QB’s gives Frost a chance to work hands-on with the most important player on the field from not just a development perspective, but also a game planning and game management perspective. This is abundantly important and gets rid of “the middle man,” (and a guy like Verdu is a really shitty middle man).
4. Frost gets rid of play calling will have time during the game to touch base with QB’s, get their mind right, talk about game management, etc. instead of letting Harry Potter fuck cross the wires of the QB’s brains during crunch time.
If Frost takes QB’s and we hire an OC that takes on another position group, it would leave room for a ST coordinator.
I think that is the most likely scenario.
HC/QB - Frost
RB - Brown
OC/WR - ???
OL - ???
ST - Snyder
Fire 4. Hire 4.
#2: Big Name OC?
I’ve also seen a lot of talk about “what proven, P5 OC is going to come here to possibly ruin their career with a lame duck HC?” Fair point.
I don’t think we will take a proven P5 coordinator. I think we take a proven G5 coordinator who has had somewhat sustained success but hasn’t been given the chance to make the jump yet.
A lot will say this OC job is unattractive to that type of candidate. I disagree. If I am a G5 coordinator who just hasn’t been “flashy” enough to get mentioned for a big P5 job, I’m all over the Nebraska job. Why? Because I’d get the opportunity to take over an offense that has already proven it can put up a shit load of yards.
My only job? Turn those yards into points. If I turn our 27 ppg average into 37 ppg, I have effectively saved Frosts job and made myself one of the most sought after up and coming OC’s, and might even get some head coaching looks if I can sustain it for a few years.
Is it a risky move? Yes. But any time a coach moves from G5 to P5 it’s risky. My guess is there are a handful of guys that aren’t on anyones radar who are licking their chops for this job.
It won’t be a “wow” hire, but it might be the right hire.
Willy Korn is the obvious name here, though he is a WB coach and that might render my point #1 above irrelevant.
Other names people might want to research but I don’t have time at the moment:
Tim Cramsey from Marshall.
Andrew Sowder from Kent State.
Mike Bath or Eric Evan’s from Western Michigan.
Ryan Grubb from Fresno State.
Anthony Tucker from Utah State
Aaron Roderick from BYU
Tommy Mainord or Mike Bloesch from North Texas (Co-OC’s not sure of what responsibilities they had).
#1: Special Teams Coordinator
I’ve seen a lot of discussion about how we need a ST coordinator which is abundantly clear, but there has been a lot of talk about how we can’t make room for a ST coordinator without firing another defensive coach, having a coach take 2 position groups, Chins coaching OLB’s etc.
Everyone is overthinking it.
We don’t need to do get rid of any additional coaches or make any changes to the defensive staff to have room for a ST coach and the reason is that there is about a 90% chance Frost takes QB’s IMO.
1. Frost has worked QB’s in practice for over half of this season, either in tandem with Verdu, or more recently, basically by himself.
2. Frost is very comfortable coaching QB’s. He is natural at it. Waterboy says there is a MASSIVE difference.
3. Working with QB’s gives Frost a chance to work hands-on with the most important player on the field from not just a development perspective, but also a game planning and game management perspective. This is abundantly important and gets rid of “the middle man,” (and a guy like Verdu is a really shitty middle man).
4. Frost gets rid of play calling will have time during the game to touch base with QB’s, get their mind right, talk about game management, etc. instead of letting Harry Potter fuck cross the wires of the QB’s brains during crunch time.
If Frost takes QB’s and we hire an OC that takes on another position group, it would leave room for a ST coordinator.
I think that is the most likely scenario.
HC/QB - Frost
RB - Brown
OC/WR - ???
OL - ???
ST - Snyder
Fire 4. Hire 4.
#2: Big Name OC?
I’ve also seen a lot of talk about “what proven, P5 OC is going to come here to possibly ruin their career with a lame duck HC?” Fair point.
I don’t think we will take a proven P5 coordinator. I think we take a proven G5 coordinator who has had somewhat sustained success but hasn’t been given the chance to make the jump yet.
A lot will say this OC job is unattractive to that type of candidate. I disagree. If I am a G5 coordinator who just hasn’t been “flashy” enough to get mentioned for a big P5 job, I’m all over the Nebraska job. Why? Because I’d get the opportunity to take over an offense that has already proven it can put up a shit load of yards.
My only job? Turn those yards into points. If I turn our 27 ppg average into 37 ppg, I have effectively saved Frosts job and made myself one of the most sought after up and coming OC’s, and might even get some head coaching looks if I can sustain it for a few years.
Is it a risky move? Yes. But any time a coach moves from G5 to P5 it’s risky. My guess is there are a handful of guys that aren’t on anyones radar who are licking their chops for this job.
It won’t be a “wow” hire, but it might be the right hire.
Willy Korn is the obvious name here, though he is a WB coach and that might render my point #1 above irrelevant.
Other names people might want to research but I don’t have time at the moment:
Tim Cramsey from Marshall.
Andrew Sowder from Kent State.
Mike Bath or Eric Evan’s from Western Michigan.
Ryan Grubb from Fresno State.
Anthony Tucker from Utah State
Aaron Roderick from BYU
Tommy Mainord or Mike Bloesch from North Texas (Co-OC’s not sure of what responsibilities they had).