Are you out on Rhule?

[Napkins]

I can’t wait until I start seeing Rhule in Ozempic commercials

More likely class action commercials the way they used to do for mesothelioma.

“Did you or a family member begin managing games like a complete moron? Unable to win in November? You may be entitled to compensation.”

 

[king_kong_]

You sure about that?

quite sure.

it's the guys who eventually won after many years who are the exception.

quick turnarounds are the rule for good coaches.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

More likely class action commercials the way they used to do for mesothelioma.

“Did you or a family member begin managing games like a complete moron? Unable to win in November? You may be entitled to compensation.”

 

[herbsinator]

quite sure.

it's the guys who eventually won after many years who are the exception.

quick turnarounds are the rule for good coaches.

You said “every good coach in history” numb nuts

 

[wildcat_husker]

every good coach in history is off and running by Year 2.

there is nothing to argue here. it's just how it goes.

Except for arguably the best coach of all time. So I guess there is something to argue.

 

[king_kong_]

Except for arguably the best coach of all time. So I guess there is something to argue.

Saban? Won 9 games at Toledo in his first ever season as a HC.

People with an agenda want to cherry pick his msu tenure as proof to the contrary. It’s cute.

 

[wildcat_husker]

Saban? Won 9 games at Toledo in his first ever season as a HC.

People with an agenda want to cherry pick his msu tenure as proof to the contrary. It’s cute.

This is very rich coming from you

 

[king_kong_]

This is very rich coming from you

What agenda do I have?

 

[TampaBaySkers]

King of crazy Rhule’s best players have been frosty recruits. EJ and Ty. What’s going to happen when it’s
Only Rhule’s recruits out on the field?

 

[HCFord1]

King of crazy Rhule’s best players have been frosty recruits. EJ and Ty. What’s going to happen when it’s
Only Rhule’s recruits out on the field?

You’re leaning into the bit so hard that you’re on the Raiola sucks train now?

 

[Mavsker]

I think a big subset of this fan base refuses to truly acknowledge how bad the prior decade was for Nebraska. We were literally a bottom 5 P4 team before Rhule took the job. Two straight winning seasons is actually progress.

This is the cow that will never run out of milk. Frost's generationally horrible dumpster fire has become the new baseline against which Nebraska coaches can be measured.

Gonna have to reckon with the fact that half the fan base would be content with 6-8 win seasons in perpetuity as long as the head coach isn't big meanie. This is the real death of the program

 

[TampaBaySkers]

You’re leaning into the bit so hard that you’re on the Raiola sucks train now?

No, Raiola needs great pass protection to thrive . Not sure he’ll get it here

 

[SlumpBuster]

This is the cow that will never run out of milk. Frost's generationally horrible dumpster fire has become the new baseline against which Nebraska coaches can be measured.

Gonna have to reckon with the fact that half the fan base would be content with 6-8 win seasons in perpetuity as long as the head coach isn't big meanie. This is the real death of the program

Not really.

1) Getting back to 6 to 8 wins is step number 1, competing on a bigger level is step number 2. Most of us just don't expect number 2 to happen right away
2) there is a general Human nature that will always be dissatisfied with whatever has become the norm. If we got used to 8 wins then we would start grumbling if we never won any more.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

King of crazy Rhule’s best players have been frosty recruits. EJ and Ty. What’s going to happen when it’s
Only Rhule’s recruits out on the field?

I get the general point, but almost every coach's best players are the previous coach's guys for the first couple years - just the nature of comparing upperclassmen to first & second year guys. Also bears mentioning that neither Ty nor EJ was that highly regarded until their last season.

Now, you should start to see younger guys flash, and Rhule's 2023 class isn't looking so great in retrospect, but the 2024 class has several mainstays on it, and the 2025 class has already been making noise (even with 2 of the key guys out for the year).

I have some concerns about Rhule, but seeing a dropoff in play when it's only his dudes is absolutely not one of them.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Not really.

1) Getting back to 6 to 8 wins is step number 1, competing on a bigger level is step number 2. Most of us just don't expect number 2 to happen right away
2) there is a general Human nature that will always be dissatisfied with whatever has become the norm. If we got used to 8 wins then we would start grumbling if we never won any more.

Sad Cal fans have higher expectations than Nebraska fans. Never thought I’d see the day

 

[herbsinator]

This is the cow that will never run out of milk. Frost's generationally horrible dumpster fire has become the new baseline against which Nebraska coaches can be measured.

Gonna have to reckon with the fact that half the fan base would be content with 6-8 win seasons in perpetuity as long as the head coach isn't big meanie. This is the real death of the program

You’re reading a lot more into my post than what I was saying. I’m not saying that the current performance is acceptable going forward.

 

[Mavsker]

Not really.

1) Getting back to 6 to 8 wins is step number 1, competing on a bigger level is step number 2. Most of us just don't expect number 2 to happen right away
2) there is a general Human nature that will always be dissatisfied with whatever has become the norm. If we got used to 8 wins then we would start grumbling if we never won any more.

I don't think you're accounting for a large portion of the fan base that doesn't have a step #2.

And certainly there will always be grumbling, but the question is whether it reaches a critical mass to actually affect change. There are many teams that once competed for conference and even national championships, but are currently content with mediocrity.

People adjust expectations to perceived reality. If the perceived reality is you can't be nationally relevant at Nebraska, people will stop demanding it. That shift in perception is happening whether we want to acknowledge it or not.

 

[SlumpBuster]

I don't think you're accounting for a large portion of the fan base that doesn't have a step #2.

And certainly there will always be grumbling, but the question is whether it reaches a critical mass to actually affect change. There are many teams that once competed for conference and even national championships, but are currently content with mediocrity.

People adjust expectations to perceived reality. If the perceived reality is you can't be nationally relevant at Nebraska, people will stop demanding it. That shift in perception is happening whether we want to acknowledge it or not.

Maybe. It's hard to tell until we get there.

I think for me, I'm happy to be back in bowls for two years in a row. I don't ever want to miss a bowl game again. BUT...if we win 7 again next year (as always that depends on how those 7 look)? Then you've got a short recovery then stagnation and I'm looking to move on and find someone to take it higher.

I'm not trying to compete with Minnesota. I'm trying to compete with the tops of the league.

But, TBH...outside of Volleyball I don't see a single sport in Lincoln that's trying to do that. In football if we want to compete with the top of the league, we need to be in the top 5-10 in NIL and follow a Texas Tech model. They had a shit defensive line so they went out and spent a crap ton on it and now they have one the best in the country.

In basketball the fact that Fred is even competing is funny because we don't put anything towards the program (maybe a case that stability helps sometimes).

Baseball might be the worst. Who knows what the current numbers are (@PonyBoy will probably give us some insight in the spring) but last time we had numbers we weren't even in the top 50 in budget.

I do get to a small degree that money typically follows success, but now you have a chicken and egg problem.

 

[Mavsker]

You’re reading a lot more into my post than what I was saying. I’m not saying that the current performance is acceptable going forward.

I wasn't trying to put you in that bucket. More that the comparison can be used to justify not just progress but arrival

 

[HCFord1]

Sad Cal fans have higher expectations than Nebraska fans. Never thought I’d see the day

What are you on about now?