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Nobody is looking at the bright side here from today….. we actually increased the chances that Rhule and White will still be here next year rather than leave for a new job. 🤣🤣.
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Great point. There are guys in their 5th/6th year in the program who have done nothing but lose and seem conditioned to it.
I also didn’t notice our shitty special teams much.Nobody is looking at the bright side here from today….. we actually increased the chances that Rhule and White will still be here next year rather than leave for a new job. 🤣🤣.
I mean after the Barney fuck up it really doesn't matter. And its not like we were ever going to kick a field goal or have to cover kick offs more than twice.I also didn’t notice our shitty special teams much.
I don't want to answer yes and I don't want to answer no and I'd rather kill myself than root for Cockeye. Can we get another option?I currently voted as “IN” but it depends upon the following factors:
- Do we finish the season with a record of 5-7, 6-6, 7-5, 8-4? 5-7 would make me as an “OUT” as would 6-6.
- Are we better prepared in the remaining games, what type of bowl game (if any) do we get to?
- Does Rhule make the necessary assistant coaching changes to OC, WR, and ST at minimum? We are paying top ten salaries for OC and DC, our ROI should be infinitely better than what it is currently.
- If Rhule does make the necessary changes who are the hires going to be? Are we able to pull in a top shelf OC, WR, and STC?
- Does Rhule make changes to the offensive philosophy and move away from the pro style to more of an up tempo, or RPO type scheme?
- How does Rhule adapt and shift his focus and overall philosophy with regards to NIL and paying top dollar for HS players and top level transfers?
Again in years 3 + under Rhule he has won usually 10 + games, and those are my expectations starting next year. We didn’t hire Rhule to win 7,8,9 games a year, we hired him to make our program relevant on the nation stage and in the CFP.
IF Rhule decides to stay the course and not adapt changes to the points ⬆️ I do see Matt Rhule eventually being let go from his position. He has to see that CFB has changed and his methods might need some tweaking, IE brining in a bunch of portal additions to help make an Indianus like jump next season.
This team waits for things to happen. When the bad happens then the death spiral starts. They can't regroup and pull themselves out.It's been a problem for more than 5 or 6 years. This program has been ok with losing for 10+ years now. It is in their blood, and they would never openly admit it, but they expect losses against even or better competiton. When you expect to lose, you almost always lose.
We used to not be OK with losing. Sure, a team still loses sometimes, but you are beyond pissed about it as a player and instead of putting you in a funk, it motivates you even more. This team and program expects to lose, and it is a hard thing to shake.
Or force a puntI mean after the Barney fuck up it really doesn't matter. And its not like we were ever going to kick a field goal or have to cover kick offs more than twice.
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I just don't get what Rhule is bringing to the table if all his assistants suck. He's not a great offensive mind, he's not an elite recruiter, he is not a great game manager. His selling point has been development and program building and both of those things are severely lackingThis game was atrocious but I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water here. My hopes and expectations for this year were to get to a bowl. That can and should happen.
That being said, my LONGTERM hopes and expectations took a major hit today and I no longer think this particular staff can get it done. Rhule, yes. This assistant group, no. Gotta make some changes after the season, this isn’t gonna cut it. I don’t know why every coach we get needs to learn the hard way that you can’t have major success with buddies and protégés, but I believe Rhule will actually learn the lesson and adjust accordingly.
And sadly I don't think he would be the type to do anything to get fired a la Mel Tugger.I just don't get what Rhule is bringing to the table if all his assistants suck. He's not a great offensive mind, he's not an elite recruiter, he is not a great game manager. His selling point has been development and program building and both of those things are severely lacking
Obviously he has a huge buyout so he's not going anywhere any time soon
It's unreal how hard Michigan St got bailed out thereAnd sadly I don't think he would be the type to do anything to get fired a la Mel Tugger.
I hear you, to be honest his CEO/motivational/buy in/tone-setting personality qualities carry a lot of weight for me. I don’t think he’s a football mastermind, but I do think he has vision and work ethic and he’s comfortable in his own skin as the leader of our program. He embraces all of it.I just don't get what Rhule is bringing to the table if all his assistants suck. He's not a great offensive mind, he's not an elite recruiter, he is not a great game manager. His selling point has been development and program building and both of those things are severely lacking
Obviously he has a huge buyout so he's not going anywhere any time soon
Last years team got better outside of QB play. Its a wild difference.Another concern for Rhule today is that the team has gotten worse as the season has progressed. In a healthy program, you’d be expecting improvement.
I understand the competition is better, but the way the offense has regressed is crazy. And the defense speaks for itself.
The team that played the first half vs CU would absolutely destroy the team that played today.
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